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[CALL TO ORDER]
AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE RECREATION, MUSIC AND PARKS COMMISSION FOR JULY 15TH, 2026.CLERK, WILL YOU TAKE THE ROLE? YES.
UM, NOW WE WILL TAKE, UH, WE WILL SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
LOVE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE MINUTES.UM, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE JUNE MINUTES? SEEING NONE, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
UM, NEXT THING IS ARE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE AGENDA, UH, NO CHANGES OR DELETIONS.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES, TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
I HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, DID WE GET ANY ONLINE COMMENTS? WE DID.
WE GOT, WE DID GET ONE COMMENT SUBMITTED IN ADVANCE, AND IT IS IN THE PACKET AND AVAILABLE ONLINE.
SO, UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT NOW.
UM, SHERRY OSTER FROM PETALUMA DOG OWNERS.
AND I DO REALLY APPRECIATE THIS TIME.
UM, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY AS TO WHY I'M SO INTERESTED IN A SAFE DOG PARK FOR PETALUMA.
I'VE BEEN A PETALUMA RESIDENT.
I HAVE TO TALK FAST, UM, FOR FOUR DECADES NOW, WHICH IS INCREDIBLE BECAUSE I'M ONLY 35.
BUT, UM, MY FIRST DOG HERE WAS A GREAT DANE MIX.
AND IF YOU KNOW, GREAT DANE, THEY DON'T LIVE LONG.
SO MY DEDICATION TO HER WAS TO EXERCISE HER REGULARLY AND I WOULD TAKE HER TO RUN ON THE BEACH BECAUSE IT'S A SOFT SURFACE, RIGHT? AND I HAD TO LEAVE THE COUNTY TO DO THIS RIGHT? THERE WAS NO PLACE IN SONOMA COUNTY TO DO THIS.
SO, FAST FORWARD A LITTLE BIT, UM, I HAD A KNEE SURGERY.
I'M NOT RUNNING ANYMORE, BUT I'M HIKING A LOT.
AND I HAVE A DOBERMAN MIX, ALSO AN ATHLETIC DOG.
I HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTY TO HIKE WITH MY DOG.
'CAUSE THE CLOSEST PLACE I CAN FIND IS MARIN COUNTY OPEN SPACE WHERE I CAN LET HIM OFF LEASH ON FIRE ROADS.
NOW, FAST FORWARD, AGAIN, I'M RECOVERING FROM AN ACCIDENT.
I HAVE A DOG NOW THAT'S NOT AN ATHLETE, AND I'M STILL LEAVING TOWN TO TAKE MY DOG TO THE DOG PARK.
I'M GOING TO NOVATO TO DOG BONE MEADOWS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SEPARATE SPACE FOR SMALLER DOGS WHERE I'M NOT GONNA GET RUN INTO BY SOMEONE'S 90 POUND LAB AND TAKEN OUT MY LEG.
SO IT'S, UH, 40 YEARS OF THE FRUSTRATION OF NOT BEING ABLE TO EXERCISE MY DOG IN TOWN.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
I ALSO LOOKED UP THE HISTORY OF DOG RUN AREAS IN PETALUMA.
IT LOOKS LIKE 2002 WAS THE LAST TIME THIS BODY DECIDED, UM, ON DOG RUN HOURS.
AT THAT TIME, THERE WERE, UM, 14 DOG RUN AREAS IN TOWN.
SO IN 24 YEARS, WE'VE LOST THREE PLACES TO RUN OUR DOGS.
UM, AND, UH, ALSO DURING THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, OUR POPULATION HAS GROWN AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE HOUSING
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UNITS WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN APARTMENT LIKE SETTINGS WITH NO OUTDOOR SPACES FOR THEIR DOGS.SO I THINK THE NEED IS ONLY INCREASED OVER TIME.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT IS FROM NINA ZITO.
WHAT A NICE SURPRISE TO ENCOUNTER ANOTHER DOG PERSON.
AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 4TH OF JULY, KIND OF A PROBLEM FOR DOGS.
BUT ANYWAY, AND THE ART FESTIVALS AND WHATNOT, AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS PARKS AND REC, BUT I GUESS IT'S LIKE MUSIC PARKS, ET CETERA.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETHING FOR THE, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, HERE WITH OUR ANIMALS, I'M REALLY HEARTENED TO KNOW AND TO SEE PUBLISHED WHO THE, UM, DESIGNATED PERSONNEL ARE FOR VARIOUS AREAS.
IN PARTICULAR, I'M THINKING OF OAK HILL PARK.
IT'S A DISGRACE, GRACE THAT THIS IS UNFENCED.
THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET TO REDO SOMETHING WITH A TANK THERE.
AND WE'RE DOING A HOWARD STREET DEVELOPMENT, ADDING MORE TRAFFIC AT A HIGHER SPEED.
WHAT COULD GO WRONG? AND IN THE MEANTIME, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, I'VE BEEN SENDING TEXT MESSAGES ABOUT BROKEN GLASS THAT IS SPILL UP FROM THE LANDFILL THERE.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE.
AND IF YOU DON'T CARE, HUMANELY ABOUT AN ANIMAL, THERE ARE CHILDREN THERE.
AND BEWILDERINGLY, YOU FAIL TO RECOGNIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A STATE OF THE ART ARTFUL RECREATION AREA OFF LEASH FOR YOUR RESIDENTS AND YOUR TOURISTS, WHO YOU'RE SO BUSY ATTRACTING, FORGETTING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE WITH COMPANION ANIMALS WHO ARE AS MUCH A PART OF THE FAMILY AS, AS, UH, YOUR ILL BEHAVED TODDLER.
DO YOU NOT SEE THAT YOU ARE TOURISTS AND THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT AND WITH, WITH ALL THESE GREAT EVENTS NEED A PLACE TO EXERCISE THEIR DOGS? THANK YOU FOR REMEMBERING THAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST FINALLY, IN CONCLUSION THAT THERE BE A REPRESENTATIVE WHO AT LEAST OWNS A DOG OR CAN, WHO CAN ADVOCATE FOR PARK USERS, NOT TOURISTS, NOT, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UH, YOU KNOW, NOT CAREERISTS, UH, AND THE F*****G FOXTAILS, EXCUSE MY FRENCH, THE GRAZING FOXTAILS.
HAVE YOU, IF ANYONE HAS A DOG, YOU KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? BROKEN GLASS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS DISCUSSING AND ELECTING A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR FOR THE RECREATION, MUSIC AND PARKS COMMISSION TO SERVE UNTIL JUNE 30TH, 2027, OR UNTIL A REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN APPOINTED.
AND DREW HALTER IS GOING TO PRESENT THIS ITEM.
YES, THIS IS AN EXCITING TIME OF YEAR.
EVERY JULY, UH, WE GET TO BRING FORWARD A COUPLE OF ITEMS. UH, ONE, THE FIRST BEING, UM, THE FORMAL NOMINATION OF YOUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
I KNOW THERE'S A STAFF REPORT INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA, UM, BUT HAS BEEN OUR HISTORIC PRACTICE TO, UH, NOMINATE A CHAIR TO SERVE, UM, TWO CONSECUTIVE ONE YEAR TERMS. UM, COMMISSIONER ELLI IS NOW COMPLETING HER FIRST YEAR, UH, OF THAT TWO YEAR TERM.
UH, AT THAT POINT, WE ALSO NOMINATE A VICE CHAIR TO DO THE SAME.
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BEING THE VICE CHAIR IS NEXT IN LINE TO ASSUME, UM, THE CHAIR RESPONSIBILITIES.AND THAT'S WORKED REALLY WELL FOR THIS COMMISSION, UM, AS KIND OF A SUCCESSION PLAN.
WITH THAT SAID, MY DISCLAIMER IS, UM, SITUATIONS CHANGE.
IT IS ALWAYS THE PREROGATIVE OF THE COMMISSION TO NOMINATE A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR.
UH, YOU'RE NOT HELD TO TO THAT.
YOU CAN NOMINATE WHOEVER YOU'D LIKE.
UM, BUT TONIGHT WOULD BE THE NIGHT, UM, THAT WE DO THAT.
SO, STAFF IS SEEKING A RECOMMENDATION OR, OR A MOTION FROM A COMMISSION TO NOMINATE A CHAIR.
AND THEN WE'LL DO THE SAME FOR A VICE CHAIR.
ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MOTION TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER ELLI FOR THE SECOND TERM, SECOND YEAR OF HER TERM AS CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CHISHOLM AS VICE CHAIR.
SHOULD WE DO THOSE TWO ITEMS SEPARATELY OR TOGETHER AS A PACKAGE? YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN DO IT TOGETHER AS A PACKAGE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? CAN I SECOND IF I'M INCLUDED? I'LL SECOND.
THE MOTION IS PASSED OR DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE? YEAH, WE CAN DO A, UM, A STRAW POLL.
JUST ANY, YOU KNOW, RAISE OF HANDS SO OUR CLERK CAN DOCUMENT.
SO LIKE AN ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER BULLOCK ELLI CONTINUING AS CHAIR AND CHISHOLM AS VICE CHAIR SAY, AYE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, OH, SO WE'RE ON, WE'RE WE'VE COMPLETED THIS ITEM NOW? YEAH.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT IS A, A PUBLIC HEARING, SO AT THIS POINT YOU CAN ASK, UH, THE CLERK IF YOU, WE PUBLIC HAVE ANY, UM, COMMENTS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM? WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, AND SO NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE, UH, TO REVIEW, DISCUSS AND APPROVE THE ANNUAL LIAISON AND PARKS ASSIGNMENTS TO COMMITTEE COMMISSION BOARDS, AND MONTHLY PARKS AND FACILITIES ASSIGNMENTS.
AND DREW WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM AS WELL.
UM, DO WE NEED TO CHECK AND SEE IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, OR, YEAH.
SO WHAT WE'LL DO, THANK YOU, CHAIR.
UM, WHAT I'M PASSING OUT NOW, UM, IS A PROPOSED, UM, UPDATE TO THE COMMITTEE LIAISON, ASSIGN AND PARK ASSIGNMENTS, UM, FOR, UH, TRANSPARENCY.
UH, LAST WEEK, UM, WHEN THE AGENDA WAS POSTED, I, I REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND I ASKED FOR ANY, UM, UH, PREFERENCES ON COMMITTEE AND COMMISSION ASSIGNMENTS.
UH, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
IN ADDITION TO SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION, WE ARE ALSO, UH, ASKING, UH, FOR, UH, COMMITTEES AND COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS TO SERVE ON SUBORDINATE, UH, OR OTHER, UH, COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE CURRENTLY, PARKS AND REC HAS FOUR OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WE, UH, SERVE AS LIAISON.
UM, THE MUSEUM BOARD IS A, UM, KIND OF QUASI-PUBLIC COMMITTEE, BUT, UM, THAT IS SERVING AS A ONE YEAR ASSIGNMENT ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE PETMAN MUSEUM ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN, UM, BICYCLE COMMISSION OR COALITION.
WE HAVE, UM, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE HAVE THE PUBLIC, UH, ART COMMITTEE.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IS A DRAFT PROPOSAL BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS I HAVE.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IN ADDITION TO THE LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS, WE'VE ALSO ALTERNATED THE PARK GROUP ASSIGNMENTS.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMITTEE COMMISSIONERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GO OUT THERE AND ENJOY ALL THE PARKS.
UM, FEEL FREE TO REPORT ON, ON, ON THE GOOD AND, AND, AND THE BAD AND ALL OF IT.
HOWEVER, UM, WE DO WANNA ROTATE THOSE ASSIGNMENTS.
WE FEEL LIKE OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR TERMS, IT REALLY PROVIDES THE COMMISSION A REAL WELL-ROUNDED, UM, SENSE OF WHAT'S, UH, WHAT PETALUMA PARK SYSTEMS ARE ALL ABOUT.
I, I DO WANT TO PUT IT BACK TO YOU CHAIR.
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OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.SO, IF, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW BRENDA, WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, SHE'D, UH, TAKING ON THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE COMMITTEE THAT MEETS ON MONDAYS AT SIX 30, I BELIEVE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
I WAS CLOSE, UM, FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
UH, AND SO AVAILABILITY IS, IS CRITICAL.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T, UH, ATTEND, UH, WE'LL WANT TO SAY THAT NOW, UM, WE CAN ALWAYS, UH, CHANGE ASSIGNMENTS, BUT WE DON'T LIKE TO, WE TYPICALLY LIKE TO HAVE IT UNDER A PUBLIC MEETING SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN, UM, KIND OF DECIDE FOR YOURSELVES WHO MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
UM, SO IF, UH, COMMISSIONER ALLEGRA, FOR EXAMPLE, WANTED TO JUMP IN AND, UH, TAKE ON THE PAC ASSIGNMENT, UM, HE'S WELCOME TO DO THAT.
UH, BUT THIS IS HOW, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS KIND OF LANDED FOR US.
SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ONE YEAR TERMS, UM, AND OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS.
UH, AND I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO YOU CHAIR.
UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? I HAVE A COMMENT.
DO I NEED NEW REFORM OR CAN WE RECYCLE THE ONE I SUBMITTED? UM, WE WOULD NEED A NEW CARD FOR THIS ITEM.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS IN ADVANCE.
I AM INTERESTED THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES TO BICYCLES.
WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES TO MUSEUMS, TO PUBLIC ART, TO PAVEMENT, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE REPRESENTATIVES TO ANIMALS, TO DOGS TO DESIGNATED DOG RUN.
LET ME JUST OFFER THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, INCLUSION.
UH, I THINK THAT WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THESE ASSIGNMENTS, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY OBJECTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THESE ASSIGNMENTS? NO.
SO, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UH, LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS AS PRINTED ON THE SHEET THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RMPC PARKS AND COMMITTEE LIAISON ASSIGNMENTS AS LAID OUT IN THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF US.
SO THESE ARE THE ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE UPCOMING COMMISSION YEAR.
I, I SAW A MOTION, I SAW A SECOND, AND JUST TO, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
JUST I DIDN'T SEE ANY OBJECTIONS, BUT EVERYONE JUST TO KIND OF, UH, UH, RAISE OF HANDS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A UNANIMOUS SUPPORT THERE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? YEP.
OKAY, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE EAST SIDE PATHWAY NAMING.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW NOMINATIONS AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO NAME THE PATHWAY THAT FOLLOWS THE CITY'S EASTERN URBAN SEPARATOR BOUNDARY BETWEEN KENNELWORTH JUNIOR HIGH AND CASA GRANDE ROAD.
AND BJORN GRUENBERG IS GOING TO, UH, GIVE US A PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT.
I'M A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT, UH, FOR WHAT SHOULD BE A, AN INTERESTING AND, AND A REALLY IMPORTANT ITEM, UM, UH, FOR THIS, UH, FOR OUR CITY.
UM, AND SO EXCITED TO ENGAGE YOU ALL IN THIS.
I'LL JUST QUICKLY GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PATHWAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, AND THEN, UH, RUN THROUGH SORT OF THE NAMING GUIDANCE AND, AND NOMINATION, UH, PROCESS.
AND THEN WE CAN TALK, UH, NEXT STEPS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.
SO THE PATHWAY THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING AND, AND SEEKING TO NAME, UH, IS A THREE AND A HALF MILE PATHWAY THAT FOLLOWS, UH, THE ENTIRETY OF THE EASTERN URBAN SEPARATOR BOUNDARY, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN PLAN IN 1972.
AND PETALUMA HAS A LEGACY OF BEING, UM, ONE OF THE EARLY KIND OF PIONEERS WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND PRESERVING, UH, GREEN AND OPEN SPACE, UH, AROUND THE CITY, THE CITY'S PERIPHERY.
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AND, UH, SO THIS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP HERE, THE PATHWAY, UH, CONNECTS, UH, A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, CONNECTS FOLKS WITH NUMEROUS SCHOOLS AND PARKS.AND, UH, IT ALSO ALONG THE WAY CROSSES SEVERAL CREEKS, UM, ALL OF WHICH HAVE MULTI-USE PATHWAYS OF THEIR OWN.
UH, SO IT'S A REALLY SOLID, UH, CONNECTION, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WALKING AND BICYCLING.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES IT SO IMPORTANT FOR, UH, PEOPLE LOOKING TO GET AROUND THE EAST SIDE, UH, OUTSIDE OF A CAR, IS THAT OUTSIDE OF SNOW MOUNTAIN PARKWAY, UM, WHICH OBVIOUSLY TURNS INTO ELI BOULEVARD SOUTH, AND THEN MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, IT'S THE ONLY TRANSPORTATION FACILITY THAT CONNECTS THE FULL LENGTH OF, OF THE EAST SIDE, RUNNING NORTH TO SOUTH EFFECTIVELY.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA ALSO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS PART OF A LARGER VISION, UH, THAT THE CITY'S HAD DATING BACK TO THE LAST GENERAL PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED IN 2008 FOR A RING TRAIL.
UM, THAT'S A VERY, OBVIOUSLY A VERY AMBITIOUS LONG-TERM VISION THAT WILL REQUIRE A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT AND A VERY KIND OF PIECEMEAL BUILD OUT OVER TIME.
UM, BUT, BUT THE, WE, THE CITY DOES HAVE THAT, THAT VISION ON THE BOOKS TO HAVE A RING TRAIL THAT BASICALLY ENCIRCLES THE, THE ENTIRE CITY.
UM, AND OF COURSE, THIS, THIS THREE AND A HALF MILE SECTION ALONG THE EAST SIDE IS KIND OF FUNCTIONS AS ITS OWN, UM, AS ITS OWN PATH, MULTI-USE PATHWAY, UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE BROADER RING TRAIL NETWORK ONCE THAT'S BUILT OUT, BUILT OUT.
AND JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT, UM, SOME OF THE, THE QUALITIES OF THE PATHWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE IT FOLLOWS THAT URBAN SEPARATOR BOUNDARY, UH, YOU HAVE PRETTY MUCH UNIN UNINTERRUPTED VIEWS TO THE CITY'S EAST, LOOKING AT THE COUNTRYSIDE, LOOKING UP AT, UM, SONOMA MOUNTAIN.
AND, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S INCREDIBLY POPULAR.
ANYTIME, UH, YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF FOLKS WALKING, BIKING, JOGGING.
UM, IT'S CLEARLY A, A REALLY, A REALLY STRONG AMENITY, UH, A WELL LOVED AMENITY IN OUR CITY.
AND SO, WHY NAME IT? UH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL AWARENESS AND STEWARDSHIP OF THE PATHWAY.
UM, IT WILL CREATE A, A UNIFIED KIND OF BRANDING AND AWARENESS OF, OF THIS PATHWAY, UH, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY PEOPLE VIEWING IT AS A SERIES OF PATHWAYS THAT MAY EXIST.
YOU KNOW, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK OF IT AS THE WISEMAN PARK PATHWAY OR, YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT PATHWAY.
UM, BUT THE REALITY IS IT REALLY DOES, UM, STITCH TOGETHER ALL OF THESE PARKS AND SCHOOLS ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND, UM, THE, THE IMPETUS FOR THIS WAS THAT WE WERE, WE HAVE A GRANT TO BEGIN INSTALLING SOME BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN WAYFINDING SIGNAGE TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE THE CITY.
UH, WE'LL BE INSTALLING THOSE SIGNS STARTING IN 2027.
AND SO NAMING THE PATHWAY, OBVIOUSLY WILL HELP US, UH, SIGN IT.
UM, WE'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, INSTALL TRAILHEAD SIGNAGE, UM, MAPS AND, AND, UH, OTHER SIGNAGE THAT HELP PEOPLE, UH, GET TO AND FROM THIS PATHWAY.
SO, UH, BACK IN EARLY JUNE, WE OPENED UP THE NOMINATION PROCESS.
IT WAS PUBLICIZED VIA OUR COMMUNITY UPDATE NEWSLETTER AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
UH, WE HAD A VERY STRONG RESPONSE, UH, WITH, UH, THE RESPONSES STARTED COMING IN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.
AND, UH, THE GUIDANCE WE PROVIDED FOLKS WAS TO ENCOURAGE, OR WAS TO CONSIDER NAMES THAT ARE DESCRIPTIVE AND CREATIVE WITH A STRONG EMPHASIS ON THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION OF THE PATHWAY AND OR, UH, LOCAL HISTORY.
AND THE FULL LIST OF, OF NOMINATIONS WAS INCLUDED AS AN ATTACHMENT IN THE, UM, IN THE MEETING PACKET, UH, UNDER ATTACHMENT A.
SO SOME OF THE, IT'S, IT WAS CHALLENGING TO DO, BUT SOME OF THE THEMES THAT CAME THROUGH, UH, ACROSS THESE, UH, 200 NOMINATIONS, UH, LOTS OF FOLKS, UH, OBVIOUSLY REFERENCING OMA MOUNTAIN AND THOSE RURAL COUNTRY, UH, COUNTRYSIDE VIEWS, UH, TO OUR EAST, UH, SEVERAL NOMINATIONS THAT, UH, REFERENCED, UH, AN HONORED IN OUR INDIGENOUS HISTORY.
UM, LOTS OF FOLKS WHO WANTED, UH, INCLUDED SOME REFERENCED TO THE FACT THAT THIS FOLLOWS THE CITY'S EAST SIDE.
UH, LOTS OF REFERENCES TO THE VARIOUS LANDMARKS ALONG THE WAY, WHETHER THOSE WERE KENNELWORTH, THE AIRPORT, PRINCE PARK, WISEMAN PARK, ET CETERA.
AND THEN WE ALSO RECEIVED QUITE A FEW, UM, PERSONAL TRIBUTES FOR PEOPLE, UM, WHO, UH, FOLKS SE OR SEEKING TO HONOR, UH, BY NAMING THE PATHWAY AFTER THEM.
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AND THEN JUST KIND OF TO HELP, UM, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE REPEAT NOMINATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED.UM, THE TOP, UH, REPEAT NOMINATION WAS, UH, WAS LONE TREE, UH, OR REFERENCE A L TREE.
AND, AND, UM, I'M APOLOGIZE THAT I DON'T HAVE AN IMAGE OF THAT TREE, BUT THERE IS, UM, KIND OF A SOLITARY OAK TREE, UH, NEAR THE, THE BACK OF THE SRJC CAMPUS THAT IS, IT'S A PRETTY STRIKING, UH, VISUAL, IT'S JUST KIND OF SURROUNDED BY OPEN, UH, GRASSLAND.
AND THEN THERE'S A, A SINGLE OAK TREE THAT OBVIOUSLY, UH, HAS BECOME VERY MEANINGFUL TO A LOT OF FOLKS WHO SUBMITTED, UH, THAT AS THEIR NOMINATION.
UH, LOTS OF REFERENCES, AGAIN, TOOMA MOUNTAIN AND, AND THE, THE VIEW OF IT, UH, EAST SIDE, SEVERAL THAT REFERENCED, UM, THE, THE ADOBE, UH, THE HISTORY WITH, WITH, UH, WITH THE RANCHO ADOBE.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN SEVERAL REFERENCING THE, UH, MEWA AND COAST MEWA TRIBE.
AND, UH, JUST A, A CAVEAT THERE THAT WE HAD A LOT, UH, LIKE I I MENTIONED THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER THAT, UH, USED DIFFERENT, UM, UH, MEWA WORDS AND, AND THOSE ARE LISTED BELOW.
I I WILL NOT, I'M, I'M GONNA ATTEMPT NOT ATTEMPT TO, UH, PRONOUNCE THESE, BUT, UM, YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ASKED FOLKS OR PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE EXPLANATIONS, UH, KIND OF AS TO WHY THEY WERE MAKING THE NOMINATION.
AND THOSE ARE ALL IN ATTACHMENT A.
AND SO YOU CAN GO SEE SOME OF THE EXPLANATIONS FOR THOSE DIFFERENT, UM, ME WALK, UH, WORDS THAT WERE SUGGESTED, UM, IN, IN ATTACHMENT A.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UH, PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FROM FROM THE COMMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH ULTIMATELY HAS FINAL NAMING, NAMING RIGHTS ON ALL CITY FACILITIES.
AND, UM, I'LL LOOK, I'LL ALSO LOOK TO DREW TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE GIVEN THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS WITH SOME OTHER, UM, CITY FACILITIES AND PARKS, UM, AS TO WHAT COULD BE HELPFUL FOR CITY COUNCIL.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PRETTY, UH, IT'S A DAUNTING EXERCISE, UM, AND IT, IT CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HOW MANY NOMINATIONS WE'VE RECEIVED.
AND, AND IF YOU READ THROUGH THEM, PEOPLE REALLY DID TAKE A LOT OF, UH, TIME AND, AND THOUGHT, UH, IN, IN SUBMITTING THESE.
SO DON'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY, THAT
THIS IS A, A PRETTY TOUGH, A TOUGH, UH, TASK AHEAD OF YOU.
YEAH, AND IF I CAN JUST KIND OF ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TO HELP WITH THE DISCUSSION.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE, RIGHT? I THINK, UH, MARIA, YOU'RE ON THE ENGLISH CHANNEL, SORRY.
IN THE SENSE THAT THIS, THIS TRAIL, UM, CONNECTS A LOT OF SPACES.
YOU KNOW, IT INTERSECTS BOTH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC TRAILS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, A A JUNIOR COLLEGE CAMPUS, UH, MANY DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS, ET CETERA.
UM, BUT PRIMARILY IT, IT'S AN ACTIVATION.
AND WE PLAY A ROLE, UM, IN PROMOTING RECREATION, ACTIVITY WELLNESS.
AND SO TO HAVE THE RECREATION, MUSIC AND PARKS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, REALLY TAKE SOME OWNERSHIP OF PUTTING FORTH A RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT WE WANT TO CALL THIS TRAIL.
NOW, THE CITY COUNCIL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO, TO NAME, AND THEY'RE THE ONLY BODY IN THE CITY'S CHARTER THAT RESERVES THE RIGHT TO NAME A PUBLIC FACILITY, BUILDING, PARK, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, IF IT'S NOT ONE NAME OR TWO NAMES, THE INTENT IS TO BRING A RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER IT'S A, A NAME OR A THEME THAT WE LIKE FROM THIS COMMISSION THAT RESONATES, UM, SEVERAL.
THE IDEA IS WE BRING AS MUCH OF THAT TO THE COUNCIL SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE ANOTHER INFORMED DISCUSSION AND, AND FEEDBACK FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
SO I WANNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF THE PRESSURE OFF, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A UNANIMOUS, UM, BUT AS MUCH, UM, IN, I GUESS AS MUCH OF A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE CAN GIVE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS NOMINATIONS.
UM, OUR, OUR, UM, ASK TO IS, IS REALLY DUE TO DESIGNATE THINGS LIKE THIS, UM, TRAILS, PARKS, ET CETERA.
UM, THINK ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THE TRAIL, WHICH JORAN MENTIONED.
IT COVERS THE, IT SPANS THE EAST SIDE, ESSENTIALLY RUNNING NORTH TO SOUTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE FOUND IN NAMESAKES WHEN WE, WE DEVIATE TOO FAR FROM THAT, OFTENTIMES WE GET, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER NAMES THAT THE TRAILS BECOMES.
SO SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, GEOGRAPHICAL IS ALWAYS, UM, SOMETHING THAT STANDS OUT FOR ME.
UM, BUT ALSO THERE'S HISTORY BEHIND THESE TRAILS.
AND SO WE ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT'S A CHANCE TO,
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UM, BRING COMMUNITY TOGETHER.UH, SO YOU'VE REALLY GOT A, A, A LONG RANGE OF THAT THROUGH YOUR NOMINATIONS THAT YOU SEE AS PART OF THE, UH, THE ATTACHMENT.
SO WITH THAT, IT'S REALLY MEANT TO BE A DISCUSSION, UH, IF WE LAND ON A RECOMMENDATION OR A SERIES OF THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY BJORN AND US BLESS YOU, KAT.
UM, WE'LL, UH, TAKE THAT UP TO COUNCIL AND, UM, BACK TO YOU CHAIR.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS, OR SHALL WE JUST OPEN IT UP FOR ANY COMMENTS THAT ANYONE MAY HAVE? GO AHEAD.
A, UM, DREW, ARE THERE ANY OF THE NAMES THAT WERE PROPOSED THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT PEOPLE KNOW IT AS TODAY IN ORDER TO NOT BE TOO CONFUSING DOWN THE ROAD FOR EVERYONE THAT KNOWS IT NOW? YEAH, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, AND I WANT BJORN TO HELP ANSWER IT.
UM, FOR, FOR ME, AND SINCE MY TENURE WITH THE CITY, UM, YOU KNOW, E EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REFERRING IT TO.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST CALL IT THE EAST SIDE PATHWAY.
UM, I'VE ALSO HEARD PEOPLE WITH THE JUNIOR COLLEGE REFER TO IT AS, YOU KNOW, JCS TRAIL.
UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF SONOMA MOUNTAIN CONNECTION TRAIL.
UM, BUT YEAH, FOR, SINCE WE, UM, OR I GUESS SINCE, UH, PARKS AND REC, WHEN WE GET DISPATCHED FOR, HEY, THERE'S A, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A BENCH THAT'S, UH, DETERIORATING, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WHERE, WHERE IS IT? OH, IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE CITY, YOU KNOW,
SO, UM, YEAH, I HOPE THAT HELPS.
BJORN, WHAT'S PBA CALLING? YEAH, I MEAN, READING THROUGH THE NOMINATIONS, IT WAS CLEAR THAT A LOT OF FOLKS KIND OF HAVE THEIR OWN NAME FOR IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE KIND OF IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT, UH, OFTEN REFER TO THE AIRPORT OR TO WISEMAN, AND THEN FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT MIGHT REFER TO, YEAH, TO THE JC OR PRINCE PARK.
UH, SO IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE, ON THE GEOGRAPHY OR WHICH SEGMENT OF THE TRAIL I THINK PEOPLE ARE USING.
UM, I'LL SAY IN THE MORE WONKY, UM, CIRCLES, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN MORE ENGAGED IN THE LAST GENERAL PLAN AND, AND, UH, THOSE ARE THE FOLKS WHO STILL REFER TO IT AS THE RING TRAIL, UM, EVEN THOUGH IT OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T CURRENTLY ENCIRCLE THE CITY.
UM, BUT, UH, THERE'S, I THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT WE NEED, UH, WE NEED A NAME FOR IT, RIGHT? IT IS, IT'S AN AMAZING PATHWAY.
AND SO THIS IS A, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO ESTABLISH A UA UNIFIED VISION FOR IT.
SO IS THE L TREE TRAIL, LIKE THAT NAME IS, I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING PEOPLE WOULD RECOGNIZE? I KNOW IT'S IN THE NUMBER ONE SPOT, BUT AGAIN, IS THAT GONNA CONFUSE PEOPLE OR OPTIONS TWO OR THREE BETTER? IT, IT'S INTRIGUING.
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, LIKE BJORN SAID, WITHOUT IMAGES OF THE THE TREE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, UH, I LIKE THE, THE FEELING THAT IT PROVOKES BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF THE DAY YOU'RE ON THAT TRAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO STOP AND GATHER THEIR SURROUNDINGS.
AND SO TIME, I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE TRAVEL THAT TRAIL VERY REGULARLY AND DON'T THINK ABOUT THE, THE TREE THERE, THERE IT IS.
THE AUDIENCE IS SHOWING THE TREE.
SO, I MEAN, IT IS, IT'S A NICE, YOU KNOW, REMINDER TO STOP AND TAKE A MOMENT AND CELEBRATE IT.
UM, THE DIFFICULTY IN ANY OF THIS IS THE TRAIL IS SO IT SPANS SUCH SIGNIFICANT PARTS OF THE CITY THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE TRAVELING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS WITH DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GEOGRAPHIC FEATURES, ET CETERA.
UM, SO I LIKE THE, THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND PROVOKING SOME THOUGHT, BUT, UH, I'M ALSO A, A LITTLE WEIRD LIKE THAT TOO.
UM, BUT THIS WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD DEVIATION FROM WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY NAME A TRAIL.
YOU KNOW, I'LL RECOGNIZE MYSELF.
UM, I, I LIKE THE LONE TREE, THAT ONE JUMPED OUT AT ME RIGHT AWAY.
BUT I ALSO, THE IDEA THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT THAT LONE TREE IS IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA OF THE TRAIL, UM, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS HERE THAT I LIKE IS LUMA VISTA PATHWAY.
AND THE REASON I LIKE IT IS BECAUSE LUMA IS, I BELIEVE, RELATED TO THE, UH, MINOK, UH, LANGUAGE AND WHAT THEY USED TO CALL THE AREA.
AND IT SPEAKS ABOUT THAT TRAIL REALLY PROVIDES A, A EXCEPTIONAL VISTA THAT ENCOMPASSES THE WHOLE EAST SIDE OF THE TOWN.
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I THINK IT'S A VERY DESCRIPTIVE, UM, NAME AS WELL FOR THAT.UM, WHEN I SAW THAT LONE TREE WAS THE FIRST AND MOST POPULAR, UM, I WAS, I LOVED SEEING ALL OF LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, CONNECTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO THAT SPECIFIC SITE, BUT IT IS SUCH A SPECIFIC SITE.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT IF YOU ARE, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN ON THIS TRAIL BEFORE AND YOU HEAR LONE TREE PATH TRAIL, WHATEVER, UM, THAT'S NOT REALLY ACCURATE OF THE TRAIL, ESPECIALLY MOVING FORWARD AS TREES MATURE.
SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO DISSUADE ANYONE FROM TAKING A PATH BECAUSE, OH, YOU THINK THAT'S HOT AND THERE'S NO SHADE.
AND I MEAN, SOME PARTS OF IT ARE ARE THAT.
BUT, UM, I ALSO KIND OF JUST GOING DOWN THE LIST OF THE MOST POPULAR NOMINATIONS, I DO THINK THAT A COUPLE OF THEM I DON'T SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY COULD BE REALLY CONFUSING.
SONOMA MOUNTAIN, VISTA AND ADOBE, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT PATH STREETS, TRAILS.
I THINK THAT COULD CAUSE SOME CONFUSION IN WAY FINDING.
AND, UM, I THINK THERE WERE SOME, UM, COMMENTS FROM, UM, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
YEAH, JESSICA, UM, I THINK, UH, SHE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS ABOUT THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, CREATING CONFUSION.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY CLEAR.
I REALLY AM IN FAVOR OF CALLING IT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ALREADY USE THE NAME A LOT.
I THINK THAT, UM, EAST SIDE EASTERN RIM, MAYBE COMBINING THE IDEAS OF, YOU KNOW, THE, AND MAYBE IN KIND OF TAKING LIKE A HOPEFUL STANCE THAT WE WILL ONE DAY GET THAT RIM TRAILS.
SO MAYBE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, EASTERN RIM OR EAST SIDE RIM, UM, I THINK COULD EMBRACE WHAT PEOPLE ARE ALREADY CALLING IT AND ALSO LOOK TOWARDS THE FUTURE AND HOPE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SOMEDAY CONNECT THE PATHS TOGETHER, UM, YOU KNOW, PER THE MASTER PLAN, UM, OR GENERAL PLAN.
UM, I, YEAH, I LOVE THE CONNECTION AGAIN, THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR PART OF THE PATH, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT COULD CAUSE SOME CONFUSION AND IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT LESS, UM, DESCRIPTIVE THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS.
SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF EAST SIDE, EASTERN RIM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IF, UH, LAUNDRY TRAIL IS NOT THE NAME OF THIS TRAIL, IT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE THE NAME OF SOMEONE'S BESTSELLING WESTERN
I LIKE THAT LAUNDRY TRAIL I HAVE, I AGREE ABOUT USING THE GEOGRAPHICAL SPOT, IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
I THINK CONNECTING IT IN WITH WHAT COULD BE THE RING TRAIL AND SHOWING THAT IT'S NOT JUST, JUST EAST SIDE, IT IS THE BORDER, THE OUTER EAST SIDE.
SO I, I WOULD GET REALLY LITERAL WITH IT, BUT WITH THE SHORTEST NAME POSSIBLE THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
I, I THINK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR WAY FINDING PURPOSES SAY.
UM, I FORGOT TO SAY, UM, I GREW UP IN LAKE TAHOE WHERE WE HAVE THE RIM TRAIL OF TAHOE, AND IT IS, IT IS BECOME SUCH A HUGE PART OF THE LAKE AND LIVING UP THERE IN THE LIFESTYLE.
AND THERE ARE FOOT RACES AND BIKE RACES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTION OF AROUND THE LAKE.
SO JUST HEARING, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL, UM, I THINK RING RIM, UM, COULD YOU SPECIFY WHICH, UM, LANGUAGE WAS POTENTIALLY ON THE YEAH, I THINK SO.
A RIM TRAIL WOULD TYPICALLY REFER TO SOMETHING THAT FOLLOWS RIDGE LINE, CONTINUOUS RIDGE LINES, I THINK.
UM, AND SO, YEAH, I KNOW THE RIM TRAIL IN TAHOE KIND OF FOLLOWS THE, THE MOUNTAINS THAT SURROUND THE TAHOE BASIN.
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RING TRAIL IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE HERE, GIVEN THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT ON ANY SORT OF A RIDGE LINE, UH, OVER ON, ON THE EAST SIDE THERE.I'LL JUST ADD THEN, IF WE'RE WANTING TO EVENTUALLY HAVE A RING TRAIL, THEY CAN ALL TIE IN.
IF YOU HAVE EASTERN RING, WESTERN RING, NORTH RING, SOUTH RING, IT HAS A RING TO IT
SO, UM, WE ARE, UH, BEEN ASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
WE CAN OPEN UP, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT TO OKAY.
MAKE SURE ANY ANYONE GETS THEIR, UH, ALRIGHT.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.
WE DID RECEIVE FIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS IN ADVANCE AND THEY ARE ALL POSTED TO THE PACKET ONLINE.
AND THEN WE COULD, UM, JUST OPEN IT UP IF WE'VE, UH, CLERK, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM FOR ANYONE IN THE CHAMBERS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME.
WE HAVE NO IN-PERSON COMMENTS.
UM, SO DO WE WANNA HAVE, DO WE WANNA PROPOSE AN ACTUAL NAME OR DO WE WANNA JUST MAYBE GIVE SOME PARAMETERS OF THINGS THAT WE THINK WOULD BE PREFERABLE FOR THE NAME Y YEAH, I MEAN, UM, THE, IT'S YOUR CHOICE.
UH, I THINK FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PRESENTING KIND OF THE FINDINGS.
BJORN'S KIND OF TEED UP THE CONVERSATION TO SAYING, HEY, WE'VE, UH, SOLICITED FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF NOMINATIONS, CREATIVE, UM, SPECIFIC, UH, THERE'S SOME THEMES IN THERE.
SO I THINK WHAT TO TAKE THIS FORWARD, IF IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC NOMINATION, UM, I THINK WE'VE CAPTURED, UH, WHAT THE COMMISSION KIND OF FEELS OR THE MAJORITY FEELS ABOUT THE, UH, LEADING NOMINATION, THE LONE TREE, UM, WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY FEELS THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A ROUTE THAT WE WOULD WANNA RECOMMEND, UM, FOR SOME REASONS.
BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO, UM, I THINK WHAT I HEARD WAS A MAJORITY, UM, TALKING ABOUT, UM, LEANING ON SOME GEOGRAPHIC SIGNIFICANCE, KIND OF CODIFYING WHAT, UH, THE TRAIL IS CURRENTLY BEING REFERRED TO, BUT TRY TO LEAN INTO SOMETHING CONCISE, UH, WHETHER THAT'S EAST SIDE RING, EAST RING, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING SO FAR.
SO YOU CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR A MOTION FOR A SPECIFIC NAME OR TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE EVERYONE ON, ON THE RECORD TO KIND OF CAPTURE A LITTLE SUMMARY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE FORWARD.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A SPECIFIC NAME OR JUST SUGGEST THAT IT BE GEOGRAPHICALLY ORIENTED, THAT IT BE PRECISE AND LET'S MAKE IT, UH, EASY FOR COUNCIL? LET'S, LET'S PROPOSE A NAME.
YEAH, I MEAN, I ALSO LIKED, UM, WHAT CODY WAS JUST SAYING, EASTERN RING.
SO EITHER OR JUST EAST RING, EAST RING RING TRAIL.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S SIMPLE.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER
UM, I MEAN I APPRECIATE THE LONE PINE TREE TRAIL AND YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF STUFF AND THE CREATIVE NAMES.
UM, I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT WAS NAMED THAT, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE LOST TOO LONG IF THEY USE IT REGULARLY.
UM, THEY MIGHT BE CONFUSED BY THE NAME FOR A SEC BY THE NAME FOR A SECOND, BUT, UH, THEY'D STILL FIND THE WAY AROUND.
SO YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, EAST SIDE TRAIL FOR ME, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO EAST SIDE RING TRAIL, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE.
OKAY, THE ONLY REASON I'D SUPPORT ADDING THE RING IS BECAUSE THIS, THIS, THEIR EAST SIDE IS BIG AND THIS IS THE VERY OUTER EDGE THERE.
SO I I, IF WE'RE DOING, IF THIS IS FOR WAY FIGHTING PURPOSES, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT GETTING YOU ACROSS THE INNER OR THE MIDDLE PART OF THE EAST SIDE.
THIS IS GETTING YOU ACROSS THE OUTER EDGE OF THE EAST SIDE.
I, I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, INCORPORATING RING INTO THE NAME, PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, WELL, WHY ARE YOU CALLING IT THE RING TRAIL? BECAUSE HERE'S THE PLAN.
AND IT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THAT FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, BJORN, WILL THE LONGER NAME FIT ON THE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE? UM, YEAH, IT'LL BE A SMALLER FONT.
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IT'S TOUGH ALWAYS TO, YEAH, YOU KIND OF THREAD THAT, THAT NEEDLE BETWEEN BEING DESCRIPTIVE BUT ALSO BEING CONCISE.RIGHT? UM, I WOULDN'T LET LENGTH BE TOO MUCH OF A, OF AN, OF A, UH, CONSTRAINT RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND WE COULD, WE COULD ALSO LET COUNCIL KIND OF WHITTLE THAT AWAY.
IF, IF THAT'S, IF YOU WANT TO BE MORE, MORE DESCRIPTIVE UPFRONT, GIVE THEM MORE TO CHEW ON.
I WOULD PUT OUT EAST OR EASTERN AND NOT EAST SIDE BECAUSE THE OTHER THING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVENTUALLY IS THERE NOT BE EAST SIDE, WEST SIDE VIEW OF PETALUMA AS WE CONNECT OURSELVES THROUGH MORE AND MORE TRAILS.
IT'S EASTERN WESTERN BUT NOT SIDES.
SO I, I LIKE TO, I WOULD PREFER I'M PUTTING OUT EASTERN OR EAST AND NOT PICKING SIDES.
I FULLY SUPPORT THAT SENDING, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THAT SHORTENED LANGUAGE TO COUNCIL.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, I MOTION TO, UM, TO PROPOSE OR RECOMMENDED COUNCIL NAMING THIS TRAIL EITHER EAST OR EASTERN RING FOR THE GEOGRAPHICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND TYING IN THE RING TRAIL WHEN IT IS COMPLETED? I SECOND.
SHOULD WE TAKE A SHOW OF HANDS? YEAH, LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.
UM, OR SHOW OF HANDS, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE TO, DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.
DI CARLY? I WOULD BE EAST SIDE OR EAST SIDE RING SIDE B.
AND THANK YOU FOR TEE UP THE DISCUSSION, BJORN AND THANK YOU ALL.
LOOK FORWARD TO FOLLOWING THIS.
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WE HAVE GOTTEN TO THE COMMISSION COMMENTS SECTION OF THE MEETING, SO, UM, WE'LL START.WOULD YOU LIKE TO START, COMMISSIONER? I HAVE NO NOTHING TO REPORT FROM ART COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, THE 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS.
I HEARD REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK FROM MY ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO, UM, JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATE THAT.
HEARD JUST REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK THERE TOO.
SO THE COMMUNITY IS FEELING REAL PUMPED ON PETALUMA RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE WHAT'S BEEN SAID TO ME.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ALLEGRA.
ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU HOLD ON ONE MOMENT? UM, MARTINE, CAN YOU HOP OVER TO THE ENGLISH TRANSLATOR SO WE CAN HEAR JOSE IN THE CHAMBERS? YEAH.
YES, I'M JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO FINISH.
UM, YES, UM, I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT THE FAIR.
UH, EVERYTHING WAS REALLY NICE.
UH, SO THE LATINO AND THE UH, AMERICAN COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY WAS REALLY HAPPY AND ENJOYING IT.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR FOUR YEARS.
I USED TO LIVE IN SAN PABLO AND IT'S BEEN AMAZING FOUR YEARS.
I LIKE IT A LOT BETTER HERE THAN THERE.
AND REALLY IT'S BEEN GREAT FOR YEARS.
UM, THIS HAS NOTHING TO BE COMPARED TO THOSE CITIES
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OVER THERE.I MEAN, IT REALLY HAS NO COMPARISON IN THIS PLACE.
I USED TO FEEL VERY SCARED LIVING THERE BECAUSE OF THE VIOLENCE.
IT'S BEEN ONE YEAR WORKING WITH YOU AND I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I FEEL LIKE IF I AM SUPPORTED AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THAT SUPPORT TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE ALSO HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.
UH, I AM VERY HAPPY, I FEEL VERY CONTENT WHEN I WALK AROUND AND PEOPLE GET TO KNOW ME AND I GET TO KNOW A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SO I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR ALL OF THIS.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE TREE MEETING THAT WE HAD EARLIER.
WE HAVE SEVERAL NEW, UM, MEMBERS OF THE TREE ADVISORY BOARD AND WE ARE KIND OF REGROUPING NOW THAT WE'VE, UM, DONE A LOT OF WORK TO GET THAT TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE PASSED.
UH, WE'RE KIND OF, UH, TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT THE TREE ADVISORY BOARD AND WHAT, WHAT AREAS THEY SHOULD BEST FOCUS ON, UM, IN TERMS OF CARRYING THE WORK FORWARD, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE AND TRYING TO CONTINUE, UH, THAT MISSION OF PROTECTING TREES AND PETALUMA.
UM, AND JUST RIDING AROUND ON MY BIKE PARKS ARE LOOKING GOOD, SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHISHOLM.
UH, FIRSTLY ONE UPDATE FOR PUBLIC ART.
I, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GO LOOK, BUT I BELIEVE THE MEDUSA STATUE WAS INSTALLED, INSTALLED OUTSIDE.
SO BRAND NEW, UM, THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE THAT A NEW, OH NO, YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.
MARY MCCHESNEY, UM, UH, STATUE, UH, THE MEDUSA WITH THE WHOLE PAINTED BACKGROUND.
SO THANK YOU TO, UH, MELISSA ABERCROMBIE FOR REALLY PUSHING HARD TO GET THAT DONE.
UM, ALSO EXCITED TO SAY THAT, UM, LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO, BUT THE, THE PROGRAM WE'VE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT, UM, I'LL CALL IT A PUBLIC OUTREACH PROGRAM TO SORT OF INSPIRE THE PUBLIC TO TAKE MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PUBLIC SPACES.
UM, IT, WE ARE, WE HAVE A PLAN AND WE NEED A LITTLE FINALIZATION, BUT WE HAVE A MASCOT AS WELL THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE WORKS, I BELIEVE.
SO THE IDEA IS TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THROUGH ALL THE WAYS THE CITY ALREADY SPEAKS TO THE PUBLIC ON, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY WHY THERE'S A, YOU SHOULD IN THE BENEFIT OF TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR PUBLIC SPACES, FOR YOURSELF AND FOR OTHERS, BUT ALSO SIMPLE WAYS OF DOING THAT, TYING THIS INFORMATION TO A MASCOT JUST LIKE SMOKEY THE BEAR WHEN YOU SEE SMOKEY THE BEAR, UM, IN A PARK, YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF ACTUALLY GETTING THIS OUT AND, UM, REALLY EXCITED.
HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH, NEXT MEETING, I'LL BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE THE MASCOT TO YOU AND WE WILL HAVE THIS INFORMATION STARTING TO BE DISSEMINATED AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
COMMISSIONER DI CARLEY, NO REPORT FROM COUNCIL, BUT UM, I'LL KIND OF RESTATE WHAT I DID LAST WEEK AT COUNCIL AND SAY, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT STAFF PUT IN AT THE FAIR AND FOR THE AWESOME FIREWORKS SHOW.
[STAFF COMMENT]
HAVE COMMENTS FROM STAFF NOW.WE'VE GOT, UM, JEN SANTOS, OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.
WE WILL QUEUE UP FIRST AND THEN, UH, WE'VE GOT OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR KAT REISINGER, THAT'S GONNA CLOSE US OUT.
SO WE'VE GOT, YEAH, YIN AND YANG, SALT AND PEPPER, HAMMOND EGGS.
UH, DREW AND COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE PARKS MAINTENANCE CREW IS REALLY, UH, UH, DOING ITS BEST TO GET BACK TO BASICS.
WE'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY WITH THE FAIR WITH THE 4TH OF JULY, AND SO WE WANNA
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GET BACK INTO THE PARKS AND GET THEM BACK UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS WE HAVE FOR OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE.SO WE'VE BEEN, UH, DOING THAT.
UM, WE ARE, UM, IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED THIS LAST TIME, SO IF I DID, I'M SORRY, BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT A VALLEY OAK THAT WE HAVE, UM, HELPED PRESERVE ITS LIFE OUT AT PRINCE PARK.
AND SO SOME OF THE BRANCHES ON THAT VALLEY OAK ARE GETTING REALLY HEAVY AND WE WANNA PROTECT IT AND EXTEND ITS LIFESPAN.
SO IT'S A GREAT THING TO GO SEE IF YOU CAN GO LOOK AT THAT.
UM, WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH A BOY SCOUT WANTING TO BECOME AN EAGLE SCOUT FOR A PROJECT ON, AT A PARK CALLED CELLA PARK.
IT'S A LITTLE TINY POCKET PARK, UH, ON CELLA DRIVE JUST SOUTH OF CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND IT KIND OF ALLOWS THE STUDENTS TO TRAVEL BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE EAST OF THE, UH, SCHOOL.
THAT'S REALLY LOOKING LIKE IT'S GONNA COME TO FRUITION IN AUGUST AT SOME POINT.
SO, UH, WE'RE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR EAGLE SCOUT AND UH, WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU POSTED ON WHEN THAT IS HAPPENING.
SO THAT, AND ALSO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION LOU CASEY SKATE PARK IS STILL, UM, UNDER, UM, UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND, AND GOING WELL AND ON SCHEDULE TO BE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY IN JANUARY.
FROM THE RECREATION SIDE OF THE COIN, THE OTHER CURVE OF THE RING, UM, WE ARE EXCITED THAT, UM, WE ARE GOING BACK TO BASICS AFTER THE FAIR AS WELL.
WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR, UM, COMMENDATIONS AND APPRECIATION BACK FOR RECOGNIZING THE HARD WORK THAT WENT IN ON EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.
I WILL GIVE MY COUNTERPART HERE, KUDOS FOR THE POND IN THE BEER GARDEN.
HERITAGE HALL, IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THE POND THAT WAS SPARKLING AND CRISP, THAT WAS ALL TO JEN EVERY DAY, WHO WAS LITERALLY POND MAINTAINING.
UM, BUT NOW BACK TO, WELL ACTUALLY PRE BACK TO BASICS.
UM, IN EARLY JUNE WE, THE CITY PARKS AND RECREATION, WE HOSTED THE CALIFORNIA PARKS AND RECREATION SOCIETY SURF AND TURF SUMMER, PART-TIME STAFF TRAINING AT THE FAIRGROUNDS ON SATURDAY JUNE 6TH, WHERE 273 EMPLOYEES FROM OVER 27 PARKS COMMUNITY AND RECREATIONAL DISTRICTS CAME TO FROM THE GREATER BAY AREA CAME TO CONVENE TO LEARN ABOUT LEADERSHIP SKILLS, SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR PART-TIME SEASONAL STAFF.
REALLY EXCITING, VERY SUCCESSFUL.
AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE, BECAUSE TARA, OUR AQUATIC SUPERVISOR AND CPRS REPRESENTATIVE REALLY LIKES TO MAINTAIN HER MOTIVATIONAL ATTITUDE.
SHE'S HOSTING THE BAY AREA PUBLIC POOL OPERATORS ASSOCIATION LIFEGUARD GAMES ON JULY 26TH AT THE PETALUMA SWIM CENTER.
YES, IT'S OLYMPICS FOR LIFEGUARDS.
YOU CAN VOLUNTEER TO BE A VICTIM.
SWITCHING GEARS TO THE SPORTS SIDE OF RECREATION.
WE HAD OUR SUCCESSFUL FIRST WEEK OF A COMPLETELY SOLD OUT PICKLEBALL CAMP FOR AGES FIVE THROUGH 12 FENCING CAMP.
AND THE DINO MINECRAFT LEGO CAMP ARE HAPPY AND MOVED TO THE FAIRGROUNDS THE FIRST TIME UTILIZING THOSE SPACES FOR SOME SPECIALTY CAMPS, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT.
AND MOVING OVER TO OUR SENIORS.
THEY ARE GETTING EXCITED TO BE ALSO TESTING OUT THE FAIRGROUNDS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE TEMPORARILY RELOCATED.
SOME PROGRAMS WILL BE TEMPORARILY RELOCATED DURING PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SENIOR CENTER AREA, WHICH WILL START MID OC NOT OCTOBER, MID AUGUST, EXCUSE ME.
AND THEN THIS SATURDAY, FRIDAY, THIS SAT, THIS SATURDAY.
WE HAVE AN AMATEUR USA BOXING EVENT AT THE FAIRGROUND BRAWL FOR ALL $10 TICKETS.
AND THE NEXT SATURDAY, IF IT'S NOT ON YOUR RADAR RADAR, IT SHOULD BE THE 19TH ANNUAL PETALUMA MUSIC FESTIVAL WHERE WE AS THE CITY RA PRESENTING SPONSOR ONCE AGAIN AND HAS A REALLY FUN LOOKING LINEUP.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD, YOU KNOW, ONE, UM, UH, ONE OTHER ADDITIONAL ITEM OR, OR ESSENTIALLY TWO, BUT, UM, ONE KIND OF FEEL GOOD STORY I HAVE TO MENTION BECAUSE, UH, THIS ONE KIND OF TUGGED AT ALL OF OUR HEARTSTRINGS A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE WERE CONTACTED, UM, BY A GROUP LOOKING TO, UH, RENT, UM, SOME SPACE ON A BALL FIELD.
THIS IS A, A COMMON DAY, COMMON OCCURRENCE.
UM, WHAT WAS SPECIAL ABOUT THIS ONE WAS THIS WAS, UM, A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF MERV AND MERV IS TURNING 80 YEARS OLD.
AND MERV, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ASK SOME, SOME QUESTIONS, UM, ABOVE MERV, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT
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STATE OF MIND ARE WE IN HERE? BUT, UM, MERV APPARENTLY IS AN A AVID BASEBALL PLAYER AND WHAT'S SURPRISING IS THERE'S A LOT OF MERV OUT THERE AND MERV HAS A WHOLE GROUP OF TEAMS ENOUGH TO FIELD TWO TEAMS AND THEY HAVE, UH, RULES.THEY PLAY, UH, HARDBALL, THEY PLAYED LIVE BASEBALL.
AND SO ON THE 25TH, MERV IS RENTING OUT THE PETALUMA COMMUNITIES BASEBALL FIELD AND HE'S GONNA HAVE HIS 80TH BIRTHDAY PARTY AND A LIVE ACTION GAME.
SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO CLEAR UP MY SCHEDULE AS MANY PEOPLE I KNOW 'CAUSE UM, WE'VE GOTTA GO OUT THERE AND, AND ROOT MERV ON.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE THAT BECAUSE UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BRING US BACK TO WHY WE DO THIS STUFF.
AND, AND, UH, YOU ONLY GROW OLD 'CAUSE YOU STOP PLAYING EVERYBODY.
UM, A SNAPSHOT ON THE FAIR AND HOW YOU GUYS THINK EVERYTHING WENT FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW.
YEAH, I MEAN WE, UH, WE THINK IT WENT WELL.
WE, WE, WE WENT IT, WELL, WE, THE NUMBERS ARE STILL COMING IN, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT TO REPORT OTHER THAN, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ATTENDANCE LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT LAST YEAR WAS.
UM, OUR REVENUES WERE UP, UM, BUT OUR TICKET PRICING WAS SLIGHTLY UP TOO, SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, AND AGAIN, EXPENSES ARE STILL INCURRING, SO THAT'LL TAKE US A COUPLE MORE WEEKS.
UM, BUT ALL INDICATIONS, BOTH, I THINK WHAT THE, UM, COMMISSIONER SHARED WAS A LOT OF JUST VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD LAST YEAR.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, MEASURING BY THE REVENUES, WE, WE HIT OUR REVENUE FORECASTS AND, AND THEN SOME.
UM, BUT IT'LL BE A FEW MORE WEEKS UNTIL WE CAN DO A REALLY DEEP DIVE OF WHERE WE LANDED.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE'LL GET A PRESENTATION ON OR CAN WE YES, CERTAINLY WE'LL HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, AN UPDATE FOR COUNCIL AS SOON AS WE CAN SHOW THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, YEAH, I THINK LAST YEAR WE, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE DID IT, BUT YEAH, WE, WE PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, A RECAP OF THE FAIR, UM, IN MORE DETAIL AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL AND WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 7:04 PM THANK YOU CHAIR.