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RECORDING

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IN PROGRESS.

[CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND, UH, WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, AUGUST 3RD, 2026.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE'VE RECENTLY BEGUN ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENTS, BOTH IN PERSON AND VIA ZOOM, AND THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, STATE LAW 7 0 7, WHICH WAS AN UPDATE TO THE BROWN ACT, AND THAT'S CALIFORNIA'S OPEN MEETING LAW.

AND BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW PROCESS, WE ASK YOUR PATIENTS AS STAFF AND, UM, COUNCIL GET USED TO THE TECHNOLOGY, AND WE WORK ON REFINING OUR PROCEDURES, UH, AS PER OUR REGULAR PROCEDURES.

IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND ARE JOINING US IN PERSON, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH ARE LOCATED IN THE HALLWAY OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS, AND BRING IT TO OUR CITY CLERK, WHO'S OVER HERE.

AND ALSO AS PER OUR NEW PROCEDURES, FOR THOSE OF YOU PARTICIPATING VIA ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND IN, UH, YOUR VIRTUAL HAND WHEN THE ITEM IS CALLED FOR THOSE, UH, PARTICIPATING BY PHONE ON ZOOM.

YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND BY PRESSING STAR NINE.

UM, THE CITY CLERK WILL PROVIDE THESE SAME INSTRUCTIONS, UH, AS WE GET TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OR THE, THE AGENDA ITEM PERIOD.

PLEASE DON'T RAISE YOUR HAND NOW YET, UH, WAIT UNTIL THE ITEM IS CALLED.

SO, UM, WE SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT, UH, WE DO CONCURRENT TRANSLATIONS IN, UH, IN THESE MEETINGS, UH, SPANISH AND A VARIETY OF OTHER LANGUAGES.

AND TO ACCESS THE TRANSLATIONS ONLINE, PLEASE USE THE LINK ON THE AGENDA.

AND IF YOU'RE IN THE ROOM, THERE'S A QR CODE ON THE BACK WALL THERE, UH, THAT YOU CAN LOG IN THAT WAY.

SO, WELCOME AND, UH, LET'S HAVE OUR ROLL CALL FOR THE EVENING, PLEASE.

BARNACLE PRESENT.

CATER THOMPSON.

HERE.

DI CARLY.

HERE NOW.

HERE, QUINT.

HERE.

REBS HERE, MCDONALD HERE.

AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET'S ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVIS WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

FROM TIME TO TIME, THE COUNCIL USES THIS MOMENT, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR MEMBER, MEMBER OF THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY, WHO HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON THE FABRIC OF PETALUMA THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS AND THEIR LIFE, AND WHO HAS RECENTLY PASSED.

TONIGHT IS SUCH A MOMENT OF SADNESS.

I'D LIKE TO CLOSE TONIGHT'S MEETING IN HONOR OF CATHERINE BOBOWSKI.

FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES, CATHERINE CAME TO NEARLY EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.

SHE SPOKE IN PUBLIC COMMENT, AND SHE RELAYED CONCERNS OF INJUSTICE IN THE CITY.

ALAS, THE ISSUES WERE OFTEN NOT IN THE CITY'S DOMAIN, AND CATHERINE HAD LIMITED CAPACITY HERSELF TO SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT TORMENTED HER.

THE CATHERINE'S MESSAGE WAS OFTEN DIRECT AND AT TIMES DIFFICULT TO HEAR.

YET SHE NEVER WAVERED.

SHE SPOKE WITH CONVICTION AND PERSISTENCE AND AN UNWAVERING BELIEF THAT EVERY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY DESERVED A VOICE.

TO SOME CATHERINE MAY HAVE BEEN A SYMBOL OF A SYSTEM OR CULTURE THAT COULD NOT, OR FAILED TO BRING PEACE TO THOSE IN PAIN IN OUR COMMUNITY TO OTHERS.

CATHERINE'S DRIVE AND DETERMINATION WERE AN INSPIRATION, AN INSPIRATION TO CREATE COMMUNITY THAT CARES FOR ALL, TO TREAT EVERY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY WITH DIGNITY, AND TO SEE THAT SHARED HUMANITY AND PAIN IN OURSELVES.

SO I WANT TO THANK CATHERINE TONIGHT FOR GIVING US PAUSE TO REFLECT ON THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY AND HOW IT IS THE BOLD EFFORTS OF EACH OF US, NO MATTER WHOM THAT MAKES US A COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, CATHERINE.

WE WILL MISS YOU.

WE'RE CLOSING TONIGHT'S MEETING IN HONOR OF CATHERINE, AND THAT TAKES US TO

[PROCLAMATIONS]

OUR PROCLAMATION FOR THE EVENING.

AND, UH, THIS, UM, MEETING.

WE HAVE OUR NATIONAL HEALTHCARE WEEK, AND, UM, WE INVITE, UH, PEDRO TOLEDO, CEO OF PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER, AND JOSE GUZMAN, COMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER OF ALDO'S HEALTH, UH, TO THE PODIUM,

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TO, UH, ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION, WHICH READS, WHEREAS NATIONAL NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK CELEBRATES THE THEME BUILDING INNOVATIVE CARE WHERE IT MATTERS MOST.

AND IT RECOGNIZES THE VITAL ROLE OF COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS HAVE PLAYED AS CORNERSTONE OF THE NATION'S HEALTHCARE SAFETY NET FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS.

AND WHEREAS 23% OF SONOMA COUNTY RESIDENTS CHOOSE TO RECEIVE HEALTHCARE SERVICES AS A PATIENT AT ONE OF THE EIGHT COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS IN SONOMA COUNTY, PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER, SANTA ROSA COMMUNITY HEALTH, SONOMA VALLEY COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER, WEST COUNTY HEALTH CENTERS, ALEXANDER VALLEY HEALTHCARE, AND JEWISH COMMUNITY FREE CLINIC, ALLIANCE MEDICAL CENTER, AND SONOMA COUNTY INDIAN HEALTH PROJECT, WHICH TOGETHER PROVIDE 700,000 PATIENT VISITS IN 2025.

SO WHEREAS COLLECTIVELY, THESE EIGHT COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE MEDICAL, DENTAL, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, PREVENTATIVE, AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THROUGHOUT SONOMA COUNTY, INCLUDING PETALUMA.

THEY IMPROVE ACCESS TO CARE FOR CHILDREN, FAMILIES, OLDER ADULTS, UNHOUSED PEOPLE, AND OTHER UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS.

AND WHEREAS COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS ARE PLAYING A VITAL ROLE IN HELPING PATIENTS NAVIGATE CARE AND MAINTAIN ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL HEALTH SERVICES WITH, WITH THE IMPACT FROM FEDERAL AND STATE CHANGES TO THE MEDI-CAL ELIGIBILITY, ENROLLMENT, AND CONTINUED COVERAGE, CONTINU CONTINUITY OF COVERAGE.

AND WHEREAS EACH COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER HAS A DEDICATED TEAM, INCLUDING PHYSICIANS, DENTISTS, NURSE, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKERS AND SUPPORT STAFF, AS WELL AS VOLUNTEERS AND GOVERNING BOARD MEMBERS WHOSE DEDICATION AND SERVICE IMPROVE THE LIVES OF SONOMA COUNTY RESIDENTS EVERY DAY.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, KEVIN MCDONALD, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AUGUST 2ND THROUGH EIGHTH, 2026 AS NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK IN PETALUMA, AND RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTIONS OF PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER AND THE SEVEN OTHER COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS IN SONOMA COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE REGIONAL CONSORTIUM, ALDO'S HEALTH TO, FOR THEIR WORK TO EXPAND ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE.

THANK YOU.

MAJOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS JOSE UZMAN, COMMUNICATIONS AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER ADO SELF, AN ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING 17 COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS ACROSS SIX COUNTIES.

WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND RECOGNIZING THIS WEEK.

AS NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY, AFFORDABLE PRIMARY CARE, REGARDLESS OF A PERSON'S ABILITY TO PAY.

THEY PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES INCLUDING PRIMARY CARE, DENTAL CARE, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, AND PREVENTIVE SERVICES.

AS A RESOLUTION NOTED, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS IN REGION PROVIDED MORE THAN 700,000 PATIENT VISITS TO MORE THAN 100,000 PATIENTS LAST YEAR, ONLY HERE IN SONOMA COUNTY, DEMONSTRATING THE VITAL ROLE THAT THEY PLAYED IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR RECOGNIZING THIS WEEK AS NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK AND FOR YOUR CONTINUOUS SUPPORT.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND ACROSS THE COUNTY.

THANK YOU SYLVIA LIMA.

AND, UM, I'M SORRY THAT PEDO COULDN'T MAKE IT THIS MORNING, BUT I DID SPEND THIS MORNING, UH, AT PENHAM HEALTH CENTER WITH PEDRO, AND HE HAD A VISITOR, LAUREN NAT FROM THE, FROM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COMMITTEE HEALTH CENTERS.

I WAS VISITING THE WEST COAST.

SHE'S VISITING DIFFERENT HEALTH CENTERS AND TALKING TO THEM.

SO IN HONOR OF NATIONAL HEALTH CENTER WEEK, I WANT TO COMMEND THE PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER AND THE AMAZING WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING IN SONOMA COUNTY AND WEST MARIN.

THEY'RE PROVIDING COMPREHENSIVE SERVICES, INCLUDING PRIMARY CARE, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, AND DENTAL TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA AND BEYOND.

WE'RE FORTUNATE FOR THE 30 YEARS THAT PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER HAS BEEN ENSURING OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY HEALTHCARE.

PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER HAS THE MOST DIVERSE CLIENTS OF ALL THE LOCAL HEALTH CENTERS, AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY PLANNING TO BEST SERVE THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO PEDRO TOLEDO AND ALL OF THE PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER BOARD AND STAFF.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

TONIGHT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION,

[PRESENTATIONS]

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UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE MARIN MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL DISTRICT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO INVITE UP, UH, THE, THE VECTOR CONTROL DISTRICT'S MANAGER, PETER BON BON CRUDE.

BON CRUDE.

YEP.

THAT'S IT.

BON ACCRUED YEAH.

TO, UH, HELP US OUT WITH THE PRESENTATION.

GREAT.

APPRECIATE IT.

WAIT FOR THOSE SLIDES TO GO UP.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS PETER BON CRUDE.

I'M THE DISTRICT MANAGER AT MARIN SONOMA MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL.

APPRECIATE THE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF GIVING ME THE TIME, AND HOPEFULLY I'LL KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS I CAN.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A BUSY SCHEDULE TODAY, UM, BUT WE'LL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE DO, LOOK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 20 20 20 20 25, AND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 2026.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I SHOULD NOTE THAT YOU HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, UH, FROM PETALUMA.

SO EACH, UH, INCORPORATED CITY IS ALLOWED TO HAVE AN AUTHORIZED APPOINTEE TO OUR BOARD, AND SUSAN KINS WAS HOPING TO BE HERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, SHE WASN'T FEELING WELL, SO SHE DECIDED TO STAY HOME.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DISTRICT.

SO WE ARE ONE OF THREE BY COUNTY DISTRICTS IN CALIFORNIA.

SO WE COVER BOTH MARIN AND SONOMA COUNTY.

WE COVER OVER 2200 SQUARE MILES.

SO IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION THAT WE COVER.

AND WITHIN THAT, WE COVER AROUND 800,000 RESIDENTS, AND WE HAVE OVER 25 MOSQUITO SPECIES THAT WE FOCUS ON.

WE WERE FORMED VERY EARLY ON.

WE'RE ACTUALLY THE FIRST MOSQUITO DISTRICT THAT WAS CREATED IN CALIFORNIA.

AND IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT LINE, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW.

SO IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS, UM, THE SAN RAFAEL WOMEN'S IMPROVEMENT CLUB DECIDED THEY WANTED TO START, UM, UH, MOSQUITO CONTROL BECAUSE IT WAS SO HARD TO LIVE IN MARIN COUNTY.

AND SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY GOT A, AN ENTOMOLOGIST FROM UC, BERKELEY.

THEY PAID HIM SOME MONEY, AND THEY CAME UP WITH SOME MOSQUITO CONTROL IDEAS AND ACTUALLY HIRED THE FIRST MOSQUITO CONTROL INSPECTOR IN CALIFORNIA.

AND OUR, OUR HISTORY BEGINS THERE.

AND SO BASICALLY OUR DISTRICT WAS CREATED WHEN THE VECTOR CONTROL LAW WAS CREATED IN CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS IN 1915.

WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST DISTRICTS TO BE CREATED UNDER THE VECTOR CONTROL LAW.

AND THEN WE CONTINUED TO EXPAND AND INCORPORATE OVER THE NEXT A HUNDRED PLUS YEARS.

AND NOW, AS I MENTIONED, WE COVER BOTH COUNTIES COMPLETELY.

UM, MARIN AND SONOMA, OUR HEADQUARTERS ARE CENTERED IN KADI, UM, AND WE MOVE FROM WHAT WAS LARGELY, UM, IMP EMPOWERMENT WORK AND, UH, SOURCE REDUCTION TO A VERY HIGHLY ADVANCED, UM, MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL ORGANIZATION THAT USES, UM, GEOSPATIAL INFORMATION THAT UTILIZES A LOT OF, UH, TIMING, DRONE TECHNOLOGY, UM, A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WE USE TO DO OUR DA, UH, DAILY JOBS TODAY.

UH, NEXT PLEASE.

WHAT DO WE DO? UH, SO OUR MOSQUITO AND VECTOR CONTROL LARGELY FOCUSES ON MOSQUITOES.

SO THAT'S THE IMMATURE SURVEILLANCE, FINDING THE MOSQUITOES WHILE THEY'RE IN THE WATER, AS WELL AS ADULT MOSQUITO CONTROL IF THEY'VE, UH, TAKEN TO WING AND STARTED TO FLY AND COULD POTENTIALLY TRANSMIT DISEASES.

IN ADDITION TO MOSQUITOES.

WE ALSO WORK ON TICK SURVEILLANCE.

SO, UH, IDENTIFYING THE TICKS IN OUR POPULATION AND THEN TESTING THOSE TICKS FOR, UH, POTENTIAL PATHOGENS THAT THEY MAY TRANSMIT.

SO WE CAN TRACK THE LEVEL OF INFECTION WITHIN OUR POPULATIONS.

UH, WE ALSO DO, UH, RODENT SURVEILLANCE AND RODENT CONSULTATION.

SO IF SOMEBODY HAS AN ISSUE WITH RODENTS IN AND AROUND THEIR PROPERTY, OUR TECHNICIANS CAN COME OUT AND GIVE, UM, GOOD TIPS ON EXCLUSION, SOURCE REDUCTION, REDUCTION IN HARBRIDGE, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT, THINGS THAT CAN MAKE THEIR WORLD BETTER IN TERMS OF RODENT CONTROL.

THEY CAN TAKE THAT REPORT AND THEN DO THE RODENT CONTROL THEMSELVES, OR THEY CAN HAND IT TO A PRIVATE PEST CONTROLLER OPERATOR TO DO THAT WORK FOR THEM.

SO IT'S A NICE LITTLE STOP GAP OR CHECK FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY ARE APPROPRIATE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A YELLOW JACKET PROGRAM, WHICH HAS BEEN EXCEEDINGLY POPULAR.

UM, BUT LAST YEAR WE HAD, I THINK, CLOSE TO 8,000 YELLOW JACKET CALLS THROUGHOUT BOTH COUNTIES.

IT WAS A BIG YEAR, IT WAS ABOUT 4,000 MORE THAN NORMAL.

UM, BUT EVEN STILL, UH, WE SEE THOSE SERVICES GETTING UTILIZED, UH, EVERY DAY.

UH, AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF GETTING TOWARDS THE PEAK OF YELLOWJACKETS.

IF SOME OF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED GROUND NESTING YELLOW JACKETS IN THE LAST MONTH OR SO, UH, WE'VE DEFINITELY SEEN AN UPTICK IN PHONE CALLS.

UH, NEXT, UH, IN 2025, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD RECORD SERVICE REQUESTS, MOST OF THEM FALLING IN THE YELLOW JACKET WORLD.

UH, BUT IN ADDITION, WE TOOK A LOT OF MOSQUITO COMPLAINTS.

UH, WE DID HAVE ONE POSITIVE DEAD BIRD FOR WEST NLL VIRUS, UH, SO FAR IN 2026, NO WEST NLL VIRUS INDICATORS IN EITHER MARIN OR SONOMA COUNTY.

SO THAT'S FANTASTIC NEWS, AND WE HOPE WE END THE SEASON THAT WAY.

UM, BUT WE HAVE SOME THINGS WORKING AGAINST US, WHICH WE'LL SEE ON A FURTHER SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, JUST DISTRICT WIDE TRENDS.

YOU CAN SEE IN GENERAL, WE SEE AN UPTICK IN OUR SERVICE REQUESTS IN THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE THE MOST POPULATED.

I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT IN GENERAL, UH, WE DO SEE A LOT ALONG THE 1 0 1 CORRIDOR.

UM, AND YOU'LL SEE AN INTERESTING MIX OF MOSQUITO CALLS, YELLOW JACK CALLS AND TICKS, KIND OF DEPENDING ON THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE AREA.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN LOOKING AT CITY OF PETALUMA SPECIFICALLY, UH, WE HAD OVER 500 SERVICE REQUESTS LAST YEAR.

WE INSPECTED, UH, ROUGHLY 3000, UH, DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL POTENTIAL MOSQUITO BREEDING HABITATS.

AND OF THOSE TREATED AROUND 3000, UH, WE DID CLOSE TO 40 RODENT INSPECTIONS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

AND THEN WE DID ALMOST 400 YELLOW JACKET TREATMENTS LAST YEAR.

NEXT, THIS JUST KIND OF SHOWS, UM, THE SHEER AMOUNT OF VARIATION WITHIN THE, THE PETALUMA AREA.

SO THE, THE IMAGE THAT

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YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE LEFT IS ALL THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL MOSQUITO BREEDING HABITATS THAT WE'VE MAPPED WITHIN THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

SO, UM, PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

UM, WE, WE INSPECT THESE REGULARLY, TYPICALLY EVERY SEVEN TO 10 DAYS, DEPENDING ON HOW OFTEN OR WHAT YOU, WHAT PRODUCT WE'VE USED TO TREAT THOSE LOCATIONS IN THE PAST.

BUT ON AVERAGE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS NEED TO BE INSPECTED AND TREATED EVERY 10 DAYS.

NEXT, GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THANK GOODNESS ISN'T IN MARIN OR SONOMA COUNTY.

UM, THAT'S THEIR EMERGING THREAT OF INVASIVE EIGHTIES OR EIGHTIES AEGYPTI.

SO THESE MOSQUITOES CAME INTO CALIFORNIA IN 2013, AND THEY'VE CONTINUED TO EXPAND.

THE RED NET MAP SHOWS ALL THE NEW, UH, EXISTING LOCATIONS OF EIGHTIES AEGYPTI AND EIGHTIES PICTUS, WHICH IS ANOTHER MOSQUITO THAT DOESN'T BELONG IN CALIFORNIA.

UM, WE SAW THOSE MOSQUITOES SPREAD VERY QUICKLY, SO THEY MOVED FROM LA ALL THE WAY UP TO SHASTA, UM, AND NOW ARE ACTUALLY SEEN IN SOUTHERN OREGON AS WELL.

UM, WHY DO WE CARE ABOUT THIS MOSQUITO? HOW IS IT ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER 25 THAT WE HAVE IN OUR AREA? WELL, THESE TRANSMIT DISEASES THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE IN MARIN OR SONOMA COUNTY, AND UP UNTIL RECENTLY DIDN'T HAVE IN CALIFORNIA.

SO THESE MOSQUITOES TRANSMIT DENGUE CHICKEN GOYA, ZIKA VIRUS, UM, ALL THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE TRANSMITTED IN CALIFORNIA.

UH, SO THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO STOP THE SPREAD OF THIS MOSQUITO.

UH, AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

BUT IN GENERAL, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SUPPORTING OUR NEIGHBORING BAY AREA DISTRICTS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE EIGHTIES OF GYP DI PICTUS THAT WE'VE FOUND YET.

UH, BUT WE HAVE 'EM ALL AROUND US.

SOLANO, SAN MATEO, ALAMEDA, UH, NOT IN NAPA YET, CONTRA COSTA SANTA CRUZ, SANTA CLARA.

SO, UM, THEY'RE COMING, UH, AT LEAST CLOSE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THEM AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE.

UM, IN GENERAL, WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SOME LOCALLY TRANSMITTED DENGUE CASES SO FAR, THAT'S ONLY BEEN IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

'CAUSE IF WE START TO SEE, UM, THE INCREASE IN PATHOGENS MATCH WHAT WE SAW IN TERMS OF THE TRANSMISSION OF THE MOSQUITO UP AND DOWN CALIFORNIA, THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE AN INCREASE IN, UH, POTENTIALLY DENGUE CHICKEN GUNA AND ZIKA VIRUS IN CALIFORNIA AS LOCALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, JUST A BRIEF SLIDE ON OUR FINANCIALS.

I'M GONNA KEEP IT REAL SHORT SINCE I'M, UM, TIME'S A LITTLE TIGHT.

JUST KNOW THAT STRUCTURALLY, OUR, OUR BUDGET IS SOUND.

WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT, SO WE MANAGE OUR OWN BUDGET.

UH, WE HAVE OUR OWN GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, A 24 MEMBER BOARD.

UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS AND HELPING THE DISTRICT MOVE, UH, THE DIRECTION FORWARD.

BUT IN GENERAL, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING, UM, AT EITHER AT OR ABOVE OR AT A SURPLUS OR JUST AROUND A SURPLUS EVERY YEAR, UM, FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.

SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

NEXT AND THEN 20, 26 AND BEYOND.

UM, SO OUR FOCUS IS REALLY ON MODERNIZATION, TRYING TO IMPLEMENT AS MANY, UH, EFFICIENCY BUILDS AS WE CAN WITHIN OUR SYSTEMS. UM, SO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD, THE AI TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL AS, UM, TRYING TO REPLACE SOME OF OUR AGING EQUIPMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH NEWER, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP SUPPORT A MORE MODERN, UM, MORE MODERN DISTRICT.

AND IN FACT, WE'RE AT THE END OF 2026, GONNA BE BREAKING GROUND ON AN EASTERN WING OF OUR FACILITIES, ADDING A NEW ADMIN, UH, A NEW STAGING SPACE FOR OUR TECHNICIANS, AND ACTUALLY A NEW BOARDROOM AS WELL.

SO WE HAVEN'T, UM, CHANGED OUR FOOTPRINT SINCE 1997 AND WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE CONSTRAINED, SO IT'S TIME TO EXPAND A LITTLE BIT.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE EN ENHANCING OUR SURVEILLANCE.

UM, WE'RE CREATING A NEW, UH, WEB AND NETWORK OF SURVEILLANCE TOOLS THAT ARE OUT THERE, NEW TRAP TYPES, AS WELL AS LOOKING FOR THOSE MOSQUITOES, THOSE INVASIVE EIGHTIES MOSQUITOES MOVING INTO OURS.

UM, AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THAT EARLY WARNING OUT AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE SO THAT IF WE HAVE TO RESPOND, WE CAN RESPOND BEFORE THEY'VE REALLY BECOME ENTRENCHED.

UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY LOOKING TOWARDS, UH, CLIMATE RESILIENCE.

UM, VECTORS ARE KIND OF THE CANARY IN THE, IN THE CAVE IN TERMS OF WE SEE THOSE SHIFTS IN PATHOGENS.

WE SEE THOSE SHIFTS IN THE WAY THAT INSECTS CAN EXIST IN PLACES THEY HAVEN'T BEFORE.

AND SO THAT GIVES US, UH, I GUESS A, A UNIQUE, UM, EARLY WARNING SYSTEM ON SOME OF THE OTHER IMPACTS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE COULD HAVE.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT MEANS WE OFTEN ARE DEALING WITH THEM FIRST, AND, AND ONE OF THOSE IS ACTUALLY INVASIVE EIGHTIES, AND THE SPEED WITH WHICH THAT TYPICALLY TROPICAL MOSQUITO HAS MOVED ACROSS CALIFORNIA.

AND THEN REALLY TRYING TO DO MORE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.

SO BUILDING DEEPER PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUR CITY PARTNERS, WITH OUR COUNTY PARTNERS, AND WITH OUR NGOS IN THE AREA.

BASICALLY TRYING TO EXPAND, UH, OUR, OUR, UH, ABILITY TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND ALSO HOPEFULLY LEVERAGE, UH, WHATEVER RESOURCES OTHER AGENCIES CAN HELP AND VICE VERSA, WE CAN HELP LEVERAGE OUR, UH, OUR RESOURCES FOR OTHERS.

NEXT SLIDE.

JUST REAL QUICK, I'LL HIT ON 2026.

UM, SO FAR, THINGS ARE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD FOR US.

WE ARE SEEING AN UPTICK IN THE MOSQUITOES THAT CAN TRANSMIT WEST NILE VIRUS, BUT, UM, WE AREN'T SEEING WHAT THEY'RE SEEING STATEWIDE, WHICH IS, UH, DEFINITELY ABOVE AVERAGE WEST NILE VIRUS NUMBERS.

UM, SO AS OF LAST YEAR, UH, WE ARE AT ABOUT 680 POSITIVES, UH, MOSQUITO SAMPLES AT THIS POINT OF THE YEAR.

THEY'RE UP OVER A THOUSAND NOW.

UM, AND SO WE'RE SORT OF SEEING THAT STATEWIDE, THAT, UH, WEST NILE VIRUS IS GONNA BE KIND OF A BIG YEAR FOR WEST NILE VIRUS, AT LEAST ACROSS CALIFORNIA.

THE HOPE IS THAT WE CAN MITIGATE THAT IN MARIN AND SONOMA COUNTIES NEXT.

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AND THEN FINALLY, UH, AGAIN, WE'LL MENTION THAT WE ARE RUNNING AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE IN 2025, A YEAR TO DATE.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTIES ON THE LEFT THAT ARE KIND OF OUTSTRIPPING ALL THE OTHERS.

IT'S NOT COMPLETELY UNUSUAL.

WE TYPICALLY DO SEE A LOT OF ACTIVITY IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY, AND WE DO SEE A FAIR AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

UM, BUT WE ARE SEEING THAT SPREAD ACROSS SACRAMENTO, PLACER COUNTY, AND EVEN, UM, WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK TOWARDS THINGS MOVING TOWARDS THE COAST AS WELL.

SO, UH, SAN MATEO'S REPORTING HIGHER NUMBERS THAN AVERAGE ALAMEDA, AS WELL AS CONTRA COSTA NEXT.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT.

HOPEFULLY I LEFT ANY TIME.

THERE MIGHT BE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, IF NOT, YOU'RE ALWAYS, UH, WELCOME TO GIVE US A CALL.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO OUR WEBSITE AS WELL, WHICH IS WWW.MS MOSQUITO.ORG, UM, AND GET A TON OF GOOD INFORMATION THERE.

AND YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THE OFFICE AT (707) 285-2200 IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEED STAFF TO ANSWER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR VIGILANCE ON OUR BEHALF.

AND, UH, I'LL LOOK COMING DOWN THE DIET AND SEE IF, UH, ANYONE HAS A PARTICULAR QUESTION TONIGHT.

I THINK, UH, YOU'VE, UH, OVERWHELMED US WITH THE COMPETENCY AND, UH, THE, THE, UH, NEED FOR THE PROGRAM.

AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOU, UH, COMING IN AND SHARING THE NEWS WITH US.

THANK YOU.

AND I WILL MENTION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE SEPTEMBER 19TH.

I DID GIVE YOU GUYS ALL CARDS.

AND THEN THERE ARE SOME IN THE BACK WHERE THE SIGNUP IS FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE INTERESTED.

SEPTEMBER 19TH, COME SEE OUR FACILITIES BEFORE WE TEAR 'EM ALL DOWN.

UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF FUN EVENTS, UH, BOOTHS AND, UH, TAKEAWAYS.

FREE FOOD SHOULD BE A REALLY FUN TIME, SO ANYBODY THAT CAN MAKE IT APPRECIATE IT, YOU WANNA SEE.

WELL, THANKS.

UH, I THINK WE DO HAVE ONE, UM, UH, COMMENT, NOT QUESTION MAYBE, BUT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS A LOT MORE THOROUGH THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE, , AND I APPRECIATE THE HISTORY SLIDE AS WELL.

UM, AND JUST AS A LITTLE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, ANYTIME YOU SEE STAGNANT WATER IN A BUCKET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF YOU'RE NOT USING IT, IF YOU'RE NOT WATERING ANIMALS WITH IT, TURN IT OVER.

SO, YEP, THANK YOU.

PLEASE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

YEAH, , IF IT'S THERE, GONNA BE THERE FOR LONGER THAN THREE DAYS, DUMP IT OUT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU.

UH, AT THIS POINT IN THE, IN THE AGENDA, I LOOK 'EM DOWN THE DIOCESE AND ASK, UH, THE COUNCIL IF, UH, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL AN ITEM FROM THE, UM, OR, UM, OTHERWISE MODIFY THE AGENDA, OR ARE WE ADOPTING AS WRITTEN AND AS PUBLISHED AND SEEING NO, UH, UH, NO HANDS, UH, RISING.

WE ARE ADOPTED BY A CLAIM FOR THE, UH, AGENDA AS IS, WHICH MOVES US INTO GENERAL PUBLIC

[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]

COMMENT.

AND, UM, AS PER MY LONG INTRODUCTION EARLIER, I GET TO HAVE ANOTHER SHOT AT IT RIGHT HERE.

UM, PER OUR REGULAR PROCEDURES DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LISTED, LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, BUT DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS COUNSEL, UM, TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES, NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES.

AS FOR OUR NEW PROCEDURES, AND AS A REMINDER, WE'LL BE NOW TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS VIA ZOOM.

UM, AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH SB 7 0 7 IN PERSON AND REMOTE COMMENTERS WILL BE GRANTED EQUAL TIME.

UM, SO IF WE HAVE MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE WISHING TO SPEAK, UH, THE FIRST 10 IN THE ROOM AND THE FIRST 10 ON ZOOM WOULD, UH, CONSTITUTE EQUAL TIME.

AND, UM, ZOOM TRACKS THE ORDER OF THE HANDS THAT GET RAISED.

AND, AND SO WE'LL WORK FROM THAT LIST.

UH, IN ORDER FOR ZOOM AND THE IN-PERSON PARTICIPANTS TO KNOW IF THEY'RE THE FIRST 10, UH, WE WILL READ OUT THE NAMES OF THE SPEAKERS.

UM, AND, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BEYOND THE 10, UM, ARE, AND THIS IS A, A MAXIMUM CASE SCENARIO, YOU KNOW, , UM, ADDITIONAL COMMS WE HEARD AFTER THE LAST BUSINESS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

SO IF THERE ARE LESS THAN 10 OF EACH IN-HOUSE AND ZOOM WE FILL FROM THE OTHER POOL.

AND, UM, AND UNTIL WE HAVE, UH, 2020, UH, SPEAKERS, AND, UH, WE WILL HEAR IN-PERSON COMMENTS FIRST, I WILL CALL SPEAKERS TO THE PODIUM.

ONCE THOSE HAVE CONCLUDED, THE CITY CLERK WILL HELP US WITH THE REMOTE SPEAKERS TO, UH, TELLING THEM TO UNMUTE THEMSELVES AND MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.

IT'S A BIT OF A LEARNING PROCESS.

THIS IS ONLY, I THINK, OUR THIRD MEETING WE'RE DOING THIS.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE GETTING BETTER, UM, EVERY MEETING.

UM, MADAM CLERK, I, I THINK I'VE GOT EVERYTHING THERE.

LET'S LEAD INTO, DID WE GET COMMENTS ONLINE PRIOR? UH, WE DID.

I BELIEVE WE GOT 12.

THOSE ARE POSTED ONLINE.

UM, AND AT THIS, UH, AND WE ALSO HAVE 15 ATTENDEES IN THE ZOOM MEETING.

AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL START AT 32ND CLOCK.

UM, DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS

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OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO MY DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND.

UH, AND THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.

AND SPEAKER REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER THIS 30 SECONDS MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED.

OKAY.

I'VE BEEN INFORMED THAT WE HAVE 18 SPEAKER CARDS IN THE ROOM AND TWO SPEAKERS ON ZOOM.

THAT'S NICE WHEN THE MATH WORKS OUT SO EASY.

AND, UM, THAT MEANS THE SPEAKER CLOCK WILL BE SET AT ONE MINUTE, UH, PER PERSON.

AND, UH, WE ARE NOT PUSHING ANYBODY OUT, SO I DON'T HAVE TO READ THE NAMES.

EVERYONE IN THE LIST WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO, UM, OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE TOM CHAMBERLAIN, TO BE FOLLOWED BY AMY TAYLOR.

GOOD EVENING.

REFERENCE IS MADE TO THE RECENT ARTICLE ON THE SANTA ROSA PRESS, DEMOCRAT PEDAL PUM.

OKAY, I'LL START ALL OVER AGAIN.

GOOD EVENING.

REFERENCE MADE TO THE RECENT ARTICLE ON THE SANTA ROSA PRESS, DEMOCRAT PETALUMA FIRES BACK AT THE GRAND JURY.

IN THAT ARTICLE WAS THE THURSDAY ISSUED STATEMENT BY OUR MAYOR.

FOUR DAYS BEFORE THE COUNCIL MET TO DISCUSS AND VOTE UPON THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO THE GRAND JURY, WERE IT CLEARLY STATED TO THE CITY, THE CITY'S POSITION, BOTH REFUTING AND CASTIGATING THE GRAND JURY.

I READ THE CITY CHARTER AND THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AND I DON'T SEE WHERE OUR MAYOR HAS THIS SPOKESPERSON AND AUTHORITY TO THE COUNCIL.

BE AWARE OF OVERREACH TO THE MAYOR.

PLEASE DON'T REPEAT THIS IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AMY TAYLOR TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOSLYN CRONIN.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT NOBODY ASKED FOR.

I STOOD ON THIS PODIUM AT THE BRIDGE EXTENSION MEETING IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE I WAS SO HORRIFIED BY THE PICTURES THAT WERE COMING OUT OF CLEAR LAKE.

I STOOD HERE WITH A PICTURE OF A DOG THAT WAS HALF DEAD.

I THINK I CALLED HIM.

I DIDN'T KNOW HIS NAME AT THE TIME, BUT HIS NAME IS HAPPY, IRONICALLY, THAT'S WHAT HIS NAME WAS, WAS.

SO THIS DOG WAS FAILED BY SO MANY HUMANS.

A MAN TURNED HIM INTO THAT SHELTER THINKING HE WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING AFTER HE WAS DUMPED OUT OF SOMEBODY'S CAR, HAPPY WAS SHOVED INTO A CRATE AND WAS NEVER FED AGAIN, NEVER FED AGAIN.

THE COLLAR'S HANGING OFF OF HIS NECK.

HE'S STANDING IN A 24 BY 35 CRATE IN HIS OWN FECES AND URINE, AND NOW HE'S DEAD.

AND THE PROBLEM IS, IT'S NOT WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, A MINUTE.

IF YOU HAVE, UM, IF HERE'S HAPPY.

IF COMMENTS ARE UNABLE TO BE COMPLETED, WE DO ACCEPT THEM IN WRITING.

AND COUNSEL READS, GREAT.

ALL THE COMMENTS.

JOCELYN CRONIN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARK KIMBERLY.

THIS WAS MY DOG, LUCILLE.

I HAVE PREPARED REMARKS, BUT SINCE I'M ON LIMITED TIME, I'LL TELL YOU 'CAUSE I LIVED IT.

MICROPHONE, EXCUSE ME.

I'LL TELL YOU, BECAUSE I LIVED IT.

MY DOG GOT INTO A LITTLE ALTERCATION WITH MY OTHER DOG.

AND SO ANIMAL CONTROL, UM, HAD ME QUARANTINED AT NORTH BAY ANIMAL SHELTER FOR 10 DAYS.

I VISITED LUCILLE JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY AND PLAYED WITH HER.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT I COULD BRING HER HOME BECAUSE I HAD A 91-YEAR-OLD MOTHER LIVING WITH ME, AND MY FA HUSBAND HAD DIED.

SO I, UM, HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

AND MARK SCOTT SUGGESTED, AND THAT'S WHEN NORTH BAY ANIMAL SHELTER SUGGESTED TO ME THAT I SEND HIM TO SHANNON MIRANDA AT MIRANDA'S RESCUE BECAUSE IT WAS GUARANTEED THAT SHE WOULD FIND A LOVING HOME.

HE WOULD FIND A LOVING HOME FOR HER AND NOT BE KILLED OR LIVE HER LIFE OUT THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.

NOW, ALL OF THIS HAS NOW COME TO LIGHT AS THEY'RE DIGGING UP MIRANDA'S RESCUE AND FINDING ALL OF THESE DOG'S BODIES.

SO WHAT I DO WANNA READ TO YOU, BECAUSE I DO NOT EVER DELETE ANYTHING, THIS IS A TEXT FROM 2021.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE MINUTE HAS ELAPSED.

I NEED TO READ MY, I NEED TO READ THIS.

AND WE SUBMIT ITAND, MARK

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KIMBERLY IS OUR NEXT SPEAKER.

I UNDERSTAND.

I NEED, EVERYBODY NEEDS TO THE MIC A MINUTE.

ARE YOU, UM, ONE MOMENT, PLEASE.

UM, MARK KIMBERLY TO BE FOLLOWED BY DARRA CHILDS.

I SEE YOU ALL MADE THE FRONT PAGE AGAIN.

PETALUMA FIRES BACK.

.

IT'S JUST A BIG WORD SALAD.

MORE OF THE SAME EXCUSES.

BUT ON PAGE TWO OF THIS ARTICLE, THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

LOOK AT THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL TRUCK RIGHT IN FRONT THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR $36,000.

DMV SAYS IT'S STILL OWNED AND INSURED BY CITY OF PETALUMA.

TWO WEEKS AGO, I WAS HERE, AND I INFORMED YOU THAT THAT WAS ILLEGALLY IN THE POSSESSION OF THE SAME GUY YOU FIRED FROM THAT ANIMAL SHELTER.

HE TOOK THE SIGNS OFF IT AND KEPT IT FOR HIMSELF.

WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THAT? NOW, WHEN I REPORTED THAT, I THOUGHT I WAS HELPING YOU TO RECOVER STOLEN PROPERTY, BUT JUST HOURS LATER, I BEGAN RECEIVING A SERIES OF VERY NASTY, THREATENING, INTIMIDATING PHONE CALLS, VOICEMAILS, AND TEXT MESSAGES FROM A POLICE DETECTIVE INFORMING ME THAT NOW I WAS THE ONE UNDER INVESTIGATION AROUND THAT TRUCK.

NOT THE THIEF WHO STOLE IT, BUT ME, THE GUY THAT REPORTED IT TO YOU.

I ANGERED AND EMBARRASSED YOU SO MUCH THAT YOU FELT THE NEED TO PUNISH ME BY ARRANGING FOR THIS HARASSMENT.

WELL, YOU CAN INVESTIGATE ME ALL YOU WANT.

YOU'RE JUST GONNA FIND OUT I'M MR. CLEAN AND I'M NOT GOING AWAY.

I'M GONNA DIG DEEPER AND WORK HARDER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST STAY RIGHT THERE.

UM, DARA CHILDS TO BE FOLLOWED BY JEFF CHARTER.

MARK MINUTE.

THANK YOU.

WE DON'T SEED, UH, TIME IN, IN, UM, IN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I'M SORRY.

THAT DOESN'T WORK.

UH, DARA GILES TO BE FOLLOWED BY JEFF CHARTER AND JEFF, SHE'S GIVING ME HER TIME.

NO, THAT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

IN GENERAL.

PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHY DID IT WORK LAST WEEK? .

IT, IT WORKS.

IT, IT DOES .

IT DOESN'T WORK IN GENERAL.

PUBLIC COMMENT.

IT WORKS ON AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.

LAST WEEK WE WERE IN AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO DEREK DE CHILDS LAST CALL COMING.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THE PEOPLE OF PETALUMA HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

EVERYONE WANTS THIS BECAUSE OF THE ALLEGATIONS OF EMBEZZLEMENT, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED CREDIBLE EVIDENCE.

A FORENSIC AUDIT, WHICH IS RADICALLY DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER TYPES OF AUDITS, IS THE ONLY WAY TO PROVE OR DISPROVE ONLY TWO PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT.

THE DIRECTOR DOESN'T WANT IT BECAUSE IT WOULD REVEAL PROOF OF FELONY EMBEZZLEMENT.

THE CITY MANAGER DOESN'T WANT IT BECAUSE IT ALL HAPPENED ON HER WATCH WHILE SHE DEFENDED COVERED FOR IT AND LIED FOR THAT CRIMINAL.

THE CITY MANAGER TOLD THE COUNCIL THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD IT BECAUSE IT WOULD COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.

I CALL BS.

THE SHELTER BEFORE THIS HAD DONE IT FOR LESS THAN $20,000 EIGHT YEARS AGO.

EVEN IF THE PRICE DOUBLED SINCE THEN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LESS THAN $40,000.

NO WAY IS IT THE NO WAY.

IS IT? HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS? SHE EVEN TOLD THE COUNCIL THAT MAKE THEM ACCEPT A LESSER AUDIT, ONE THAT WON'T REVEAL THE TRUTH, THEREBY SAVING HER BOOTY JUSTICE MUST BE DONE ORDER THE AUDIT.

THANK YOU, JEFF CHARTER TO BE FOLLOWED BY ALEXANDRA CHARTER.

WELL, I CAME A LONG WAY TONIGHT.

UM, I'M THE FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PETALUMA ANIMAL SERVICES FOUNDATION FUNCTION, UH, THE ANIMAL SHELTER HERE IN PETALUMA FOR SIX YEARS.

OVER THAT SIX YEARS, WE FUNCTIONED IN THE BLACK.

WE MET ALL THE, THE STANDARDS OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR CONTRACT, AND WE PUT $360,000 IN THE BANK OVER THAT PROCESS.

THE INTERVENING SIX YEARS AFTER THAT, NORTH BAY TOOK OVER AND THEY FUNCTIONED THAT A DEFICIT EVERY YEAR TO THE TUNE OF $350,000.

AND NOW WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED SINCE THEN, AND NO QUESTIONS WERE ASKED.

YOU HAD ONE MAN IN CONTROL OF ALL THE FINANCES.

HE WROTE THE CHECKS, HE DID THE BOOKKEEPING.

NOBODY CHECKED IT ON THE BOARD.

NOBODY CHECKED IT FROM THE COUNCIL.

NOBODY CHECKED IT FROM THE CMOS OFFICE OFFICE.

NOBODY CHECKED ANYTHING.

AND NOW YOU WANT TO TELL US IT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE.

THAT MY FRIENDS IS A COP OUT.

THANK YOU, ALEXANDRA.

UH, CHARTER SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY SAIL WHITE ALEXANDRA IN THE ROOM.

UH, YES, I'M, BUT I WAS GONNA DONATE MY TIME.

THANK YOU.

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OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SAIL WHITE TO BE FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER MOORE.

I WAS PLANNING TO DONATE MY TIME TO JEFF CHARTER, UM, WHO CAME HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE CITY OF PETALUMA RUINED A REALLY BEAUTIFUL THING THAT HE WAS IN CHARGE OF COUPLE, COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

MS. CATER THOMPSON MENTIONED THAT WAS, THAT WAS FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

IT'D BE INTEREST YOU DID.

UM, IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT THOSE POLITICAL REASONS WERE.

PETALUMA HAD A WORLD CLASS TOP-NOTCH ANIMAL SHELTER THAT WAS RUNNING IN THE BLACK, NOT KILLING ANIMALS ON THE SAME BUDGET THAT NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES HAD.

YOU GUYS HANDED IT OVER TO A CRIMINAL YOU DIDN'T INVESTIGATE FOR EIGHT YEARS, DESPITE MASSIVE PUBLIC OUTCRY.

UM, I CAME INTO POSSESSION OF A EMAIL BY THE FORMER MAYOR OF THERESA BARRETT, WHO SUGGESTED THAT MY EMAILS BE CALLED FROM HER ACCOUNT.

MAKES ME KIND OF WONDER HOW TRANSPARENT EVERYTHING IS AROUND HERE.

I JUST HOPE YOU'RE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.

THANK YOU.

JENNIFER MOORE TO BE FOLLOWED BY TINA YONKERS.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL.

CITY STAFF YOUNGSTOWN SENIOR RESIDENTS SAW ANOTHER PARK OWNED MOBILE HOME, SOLD TO ALL AGES THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY ZONING REQUIREMENTS JUST THIS LAST WEEK.

IN TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER, EVIDENCE PRESENTED ITSELF FROM A REALTOR THAT YOUNGSTOWN MANAGEMENT DEMANDED A PRIVATE SELLER'S REALTOR SELL TO AN ALL AGE PERSON WHO WAS A RELATIVE OF A PREVIOUS LEASE SOLD PARK MOBILE HOME, ALSO SOLD AS ALL AGE FROM THE SAME YOUNGSTOWN MANAGER.

THE REALTOR WOULD NOT COMPLY AS IT WOULD JEOPARDIZE HIS REAL ESTATE LICENSE ON THE PARK OWNED MOBILE HOME.

JUST SOLD A FELLOW RESIDENCE, STATED TO THE BUYER THAT YOUNGSTOWN IS A SENIOR MOBILE PARK.

AND THE RESPONSE WAS THAT MANAGEMENT STATED THAT IT IS ALL AGE PARK.

IT IS AN ALL AGE PARK, AND THE RESIDENT RESIDENTS WON'T ACCEPT IT.

THANK YOU, TINA YONKERS TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARIE KUNIO.

GOOD EVENING, UNLAWFUL FRAUD.

REAL ESTATE FRAUD.

UNFAIR BUSINESS PRACTICES, CONSUMER AFFAIR VIOLATIONS.

SENIORS HAVE NOT SEEN ENFORCEMENT ON THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY IN PLACE SINCE OCTOBER, 2023.

SENIOR OVERLAY IS CLEAR FOR EVERY PURCHASE AGREEMENT.

LEASE, NO SIGN, NO, NO NOTABLE, NO USE OF ILLEGAL ALL AGE RULES OF THE PARK.

OWNER AND MANAGEMENT MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE, DEFEND, ENFORCE, AND STRENGTHEN.

NO LAWSUIT DECISIONS EXIST THAT ALLOW VIOLATIONS OF THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY AND THE FIVE SENIOR PARK OVERLAYS.

NONE OF THE OTHERS SENIOR PARKS ARE SELLING TO ALL AGES.

LITTLE WOODS.

LITTLE WOODS, UH, BRAND NEW MOBILE HOMES BROUGHT TO THEIR PARK OWNED VACANT LOTS ON THE DAY AFTER THE PRESS QUOTED THAT THE PARK WASN'T MARIE KUNIO TO BE FOLLOWED BY TIM PORTUS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

THE PARK OWNER, EXCUSE ME, THE PARK OWNER THAT THEY WERE CLOSING AND LAWSUIT WAS FILED TO COMPEL CLOSURE.

STILL NO REQUIRED CHANGE OF USE FILED WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA.

AS REQUIRED BY THE CLOSER CONVERSION ORDINANCE LAST FRIDAY, WE SAW THE LOSS OF CATHERINE BOBOWSKI, A WARRIOR AGAINST THE BAD ACTOR OWNER OF LITTLE WOODS.

SHE FOUGHT LONG BEFORE OTHERS AGAINST THE VIOLATION AND WEAPONIZATION OF ARBITRATION, PARKING, OVERCHARGES AND INTIMIDATION.

WE REMEMBER HER AS ONE THAT WAS MISUNDERSTOOD AND FIERCELY PROTECTIVE OF HER FELLOW NEIGHBORS.

CAPRI STILL BATTLES INTIMIDATION AND WEAPON WEAPONIZATION OF SEVEN DAY NOTICES EVEN AFTER THE STATE HCD INSPECTOR HIMSELF FOUND NO VIOLATION.

HOW ABOUT TWO RESIDENTS RECEIVING FOUR NOTICES AT EACH DOOR AT THE SAME, ALL THE SAME.

THE VIOLATION OF A KITTY POOL OR TOYS OUTSIDE FOR THEIR TODDLER CHILD.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

TIM

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PORTUS TO BE FOLLOWED BY SUSAN HUSSEY.

THE COTTAGES SEES A NOTICE TO RESIDENTS THAT BECAUSE PARK OWNERS MUST ALIGN WITH AB 27 82 AND NO MORE PREDATORY LONG-TERM FINANCIAL LEASES.

OWNERS ARE PUTTING ALL MAINTENANCE OF PARK OWNED TREES ON RESIDENCE EFFECTIVE IN SEPTEMBER.

THEY'RE SUGGESTING THE RESIDENTS MUST PAY $26,000 SINCE THEY CAN NO LONGER MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO MAINTAIN THEIR TREES THEMSELVES.

THIS IS A PARK WHOSE GROUND RENTS AVERAGE $2,200 WITH SOME MUCH HIGHER REDUCTION OF SERVICE BECAUSE PREDATORY LONG-TERM LEASES ARE DISSOLVED BY LAW.

WE REMIND ALL THAT WE OWN OUR MOBILE HOMES UNSUBSIDIZED, AND THAT GREED HAS NO PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE FALSE NARRATIVE THAT THIS DRIVES THE PARK OWNER OUT IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS.

THESE SOPHISTICATED INVEST INVESTORS DID DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE PURCHASING, BOUGHT ADDITIONAL MOBILE PARKS, KNOWING THAT THE RSO EXISTS AND WHAT PROFIT LOOKS LIKE AND HAVE HAD VACANCY CONTROL SINCE 1994.

NOTHING NEW.

NOTABLY THE FACT.

THANK YOU SUSAN HUSSEY TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UM, JOANNE CAMERON.

I'VE BEEN ASKED TO READ THIS LETTER FOR A FORMER STAFF MEMBER OF MBIS.

SHE HAS PROTECTED HER NAME BECAUSE OF FEAR, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH THAT NAME.

SHE SAYS SHE WORKED FOR NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES AND WITNESSED THINGS THAT WILL HAUNT HER TO THIS DAY.

SHE SAID THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS MARK SCOTT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN IN CHARGE OF ANY ANIMALS.

SHE WAS FORCED TO SEE ANIMALS LIVING IN CONDITIONS THAT WERE SO SUBSTANTIAL THAT NO CREATURE SHOULD HAVE RESIDED THERE.

THEY REPORTED TIME AFTER TIME ANIMALS THAT NEEDED IMMEDIATE VETERINARY CARE.

AND HIS RESPONSE WAS, DO THE BEST YOU CAN WITH NO TRAINING, NO SUPPLIES, NOTHING.

AND HE KEPT THE MONEY THAT WAS MADE FOR THAT VETERINARY CARE.

THEY WATCHED A LOT OF THEIR ANIMALS BEING SHIFTED OFF TO MIRANDAS, AND THEY SENT EMAILS FOR UPDATES.

NONE CAME.

EVERYONE WITHIN THE NBAS STRUCTURE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY, INCLUDING MARK SCOTT.

THANK YOU JOANNA CAMERON TO BE FOLLOWED BY DANA BARRETT.

ER HI.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE FEW OF YOU THAT I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU'VE BEEN KIND, BUT THIS IS BUSINESS.

YOU ENTERED INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

AND TO SAY THAT A FORENSIC ACCOUNTING IS TOO EXPENSIVE, LET ME TELL YOU, WE PAY IT WHEN WE GET DIVORCED.

IT'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT YOU'LL COMPLETE THE BUSINESS.

I'VE BEEN UP HERE.

I DON'T, MAYBE WE NEED A NEW CITY ATTORNEY.

I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE GETTING THIS ADVICE FROM.

YOU ENTER INTO CONTRACT, YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENFORCE IT, AND THAT ISN'T HAPPENING, AND IT ISN'T HAPPENING IN MANY ARENAS AROUND THE CITY.

SO LOOK AT WHO YOU HAVE EMPLOYED AND WHY YOU AREN'T ASKING DEEPER QUESTIONS.

A MATH MAJOR, MAKING EXCUSES FOR NUMBERS SHOULD BE BELLS AND WHISTLES FOR YOU.

SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU DO BETTER AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU DANA BARRETT GRINDER TO BE FOLLOWED BY BETSY RICHARDS FROM THE FORMER EMPLOYEE OF CLEAR LAKE ANIMAL SHELTER.

I WORKED FOR MARK SCOTT LONGER THAN I EVER WANTED TO.

WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN MARK WASN'T SOMEONE PEOPLE WANTED TO WORK FOR THOSE OF US WHO STAYED DIDN'T STAY BECAUSE OF HIM.

WE STAYED IN SPITE OF HIM.

WE STAYED BECAUSE WE LOVED THE ANIMALS UNDER HIS SUPERVISION.

WE KNEW THAT IF WE LEFT, THEY WOULD SUFFER EVEN MORE.

I STAYED BECAUSE I WITNESSED PROBLEMS THAT WERE REPORTED BUT NEVER ADDRESSED.

I STAYED BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD TO COMFORT THE DOGS.

I STAYED BECAUSE I BELIEVED IN THE IDEA OF NO KILL.

ONLY TO DISCOVER THAT THAT TERM WAS USED TO APPEASE THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIES HE HAD CONTRACTS WITH.

SO THE PUBLIC WOULD DONATE TO HIS THRIFT STORES.

THE REALITY NEVER MATCHED THE WORDS NO KILL.

WHAT HE DID WAS MANAGE INTENTIONAL ANIMAL CRUELTY.

BY LEGAL DEFINITION, DOGS WERE LOCKED INTO SMALL KENNELS FOR MONTHS, AND IN SOME CASES YEARS BECAUSE WERE NOT ENOUGH RESCUE PARTNERS WILLING TO ACCEPT TRANSFERS.

ONE REASON REPEATEDLY DISCUSSED AMONG STAFF WAS THAT ORGANIZATIONS WANTED TO WORK WITH MARK SCOTT.

THERE WAS ONE NOTABLE EXCEPTION.

SHANNON SHANNON MIRANDA'S RESCUE.

THANK YOU, BETSY RICHARDS TO BE FOLLOWED BY HANNAH STEWART.

GOOD EVENING, JUNE, 2023.

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AFTER MONTHS OF PLEADING FOR STAFF ADEQUATE SUPPLIES, TIMELY DELIVERIES OF FOOD AND CLEANING PRODUCTS, ADDITIONAL TRANSFERS TO RELIEVE OVERCROWDING AND BETTER, BETTER MEDICAL SUPPORT FOR THE ANIMALS, DOGS WERE TR UH, TRANSFERRED TO MIRANDA'S RESCUE AT THE TIME.

WE BELIEVED THOSE ANIMALS WERE FINALLY GETTING THE HELP THAT THEY NEEDED.

INSTEAD, THEY, WE NEVER LEARNED WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENED TO MANY OF THEM.

STAFF REPEATEDLY CALLED AND TEXTED MIRANDA'S RESCUE SEEKING UPDATES, BUT RECEIVED NO RESPONSE.

CONDITIONS AT NVAS CONTINUED TO DETERIORATE.

STAFF CONCERNS ABOUT ANIMAL WELFARE WERE IGNORED.

THE SHELTER OFTEN HOUSED, OFTEN HOUSED TWO TO THREE TIMES THE ANIMALS THAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO HOLD FOOD, KE CLEANING SUPPLIES AND OTHER NECESSITIES F FREQUENCY ARRIVE LATE AND INSUFFICIENT QUANTITIES, OR NOT AT ALL.

WE WERE SOMETIMES TOLD WE WERE USING TOO MUCH IN QUOTES, UM, AND TO MAKE WHAT WE HAD LAST LONGER.

AS A RESULT, EMPLOYEES OFTEN SPENT THEIR OWN MONEY TO PURCHASE DOG FOOD, CLEANING SUPPLIES, AND OTHER BASIC NECESSITIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, HANNAH STEWART TO BE FOLLOWED BY COURTNEY GARCIA.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

UM, OUR LONGTIME RESIDENT, CATHERINE, PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK, AS YOU ALREADY MENTIONED.

UM, I'M JUST REMEMBERING CATHERINE IS A PERSON WHO, UM, REMINDED ME A BIT OF MY GRANDMOTHER.

UM, SHE WAS DEFINITELY A FIGHTER.

UM, AND WE, UH, AT LITTLE WOODS APPRECIATE HOW MUCH SHE DID FIGHT FOR US.

SHE WAS INVOLVED IN THE THIRD ARBITRATION THAT WE HAD AND WAS VERY HELPFUL IN, UM, THE POSITIVE OUTCOME THAT WE HAD FOR THAT.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COUNCIL AND CATHERINE KNOW THAT, UM, SHE AND HER FAMILY WILL BE IN OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND TO GIVE HER, UM, ACCOMMODATION AND LET HER KNOW THAT, UM, THAT SHE FOUGHT A GOOD FIGHT.

AND WE WILL BE CONTINUING THAT FIGHT.

UM, SINCE I HAVE 12 SECONDS, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY'VE UPPED THE PARKING, UM, FEES FOR EVERYONE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT IF YOU WANTED TO COME AND LOOK AT IT LATER.

THANK YOU.

COURTNEY GARCIA.

GOOD EVENING.

I'LL BE CONTINUING THE LETTER OF THE ANONYMOUS FORMER EMPLOYEE.

WE REPEATEDLY TOLD MARK SCOTT THAT THE SHELTER WAS DANGEROUSLY OVERCROWDED.

WE WARNED HIM THAT TOO MANY DOGS, UM, THAT WE HAD TOO MANY DOGS, AND THAT TOLD HIM THAT THE CONDITIONS WERE BECOMING UNACCEPTABLE AND THE ANIMALS WERE WASTING AWAY DUE TO LACK OF FOOD.

WE BOUGHT DOG FOOD WITH EVERY SPARE DOLLAR WE HAD AND BROUGHT IT TO WORK.

HIS RESPONSE WAS ALMOST ALWAYS THE SAME.

WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.

HE NEVER DID NOTHING CHANGED.

INSTEAD OF PROVIDING RESOURCES WE NEEDED, EMPLOYEES WERE FORCED TO SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY ON BASIC NECESSITIES LIKE DOG FOOD, LAUNDRY, DETERGENT, HOSES, SQUEEGEES, AND CLEANING SUPPLIES JUST TO KEEP THE SHELTER OPERATING.

THIS ISN'T A ONE-TIME MISTAKE.

THIS WASN'T A BAD WEEK.

IT WASN'T AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

THESE CONCERNS WERE THE NORM, NOT THE EXCEPTION.

THE PUBLIC DONATED MONEY BELIEVING ANIMALS WERE PROTECTED.

VOLUNTEERS GAVE THEIR TIME BELIEVING THEY WERE HELPING EMPLOYEES CAME TO WORK BECAUSE WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE ANIMALS IN OUR CARE.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, THAT CONCLUDES OUR IN-HOUSE.

AND WE'LL TAKE IT OVER TO OUR ZOOM PARTICIPANTS.

YES.

UH, S KIRKS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

SUSAN KIRKS PETALUMA.

I'M COMMENTING THIS EVENING ON THE SAME TOPIC I COMMENTED ABOUT IN YOUR EARLIER AUGUST MEETING.

AND THAT IS THE BARBED WIRE FENCING THAT SURROUNDS THE PERIMETER OF THE PAULA LANE CONSERVED OPEN SPACE PROPERTY.

THAT TYPE OF FENCING SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN INSTALLED AT THIS PROPERTY.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S INTERIOR FENCING AND AN EXTRA GATE THAT WERE INSTALLED, WHICH ALSO OBSTRUCT WILDLIFE MOVEMENT AND PREVENT WILDLIFE FROM ACCESSING THEIR HABITAT.

THAT FENCING NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.

THAT WAS MY REQUEST IN EARLY AUGUST, AND I CONTINUE TO RECEIVE INQUIRIES AND CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

AND LASTLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY ONE MINUTE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

YOU, THE MAYOR HAS DISCRETION.

YOU COULD EXPAND THAT TO 30 MINUTES AND ADD SOME TIME.

THANK YOU.

SO PEOPLE THANK UNFORTUNATELY IS THE ONE MINUTE

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RIGHT THERE.

WE'LL GO TO OUR NEXT SPEAKER.

JODY, IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR COMMENT.

OFTENTIMES CATHERINE WAS MISUNDERSTOOD.

WE THANK YOU FOR CLOSING THE MEETING TONIGHT IN HER HONOR AND YOUR WORDS.

BUT SHE SPOKE UP AGAINST RULE BREAKERS.

SHE SPENT A LOT OF TIME MAKING COMPLAINTS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE SHE FELT RULE BREAKERS, LAW BREAKERS SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

SHE WAS A WARRIOR WHO TOOK A BUS TO CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE ALL KNEW THE ACTIONS OF THE PARK OWNERS.

WE WILL WARRIOR ON, NOT JUST FOR CATHERINE, BUT FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

SHE FOUGHT HARD FOR AND FOR ALL TO HAVE A VOICE NO MATTER WHAT DISABILITIES THEY HAVE.

REMOVAL OF MORE PARKING TODAY AT LITTLE WOODS IS PAYBACK FOR RESIDENTS STANDING UP AGAINST THE ATTACK ON THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEIR UNSUBSIDIZED HOME.

WE STAND TOGETHER AS MOBILE HOME RESIDENTS FOR THE TRUTH, NOT THE RIDICULOUS SOCIAL MEDIA FICTION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS OUR LAST, OUR LAST ZOOM SPEAKER, AND THAT CLOSES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TO, FOR THE EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO BRING IT

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BACK ON UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL COMMENTS NOW ON ACTIVITIES.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST, UH, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.

AND TONIGHT I'D LIKE TO START TO MY RIGHT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

I HAVE NO UPDATES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

I HAVE NO UPDATES.

SUMMER IS HERE.

VICE MAYOR DI CARLY.

I HAVE SOME.

OKAY.

.

HEY EVERYBODY.

SO AT AGON OPEN SPACE, UH, INSTEAD OF OUR REGULAR HELD MEETING, WE DECIDED TO MEET AT STEAMERS LANDING IN PETALUMA.

THAT IS, UH, THE RIVER PARKS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGON OPEN SPACE HAS HELPED THEM.

AND SO GOT A FULL TOUR OF THE PLACE.

THEY EXPLAINED HOW IT ALL WORKS AND HOW AGON OPEN SPACE INTERACTS WITH THEM.

AND THEN, UM, TENDED THE RIBBON CUTTING OPENING OF BLANTON'S WESTERN STORE ON, UH, THE BOULEVARD.

UH, THAT WAS REALLY NEAT.

THAT WAS MY FIRST RIBBON CUTTING.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT'S BEEN A WHILE TOO, SINCE THERE'S BEEN A WESTERN STORE ON THE BOULEVARD.

AND SO IT WAS NEAT TO SEE A NEW ONE.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE STORE.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO GO DOWN AND GET SOME NEW BOOTS, GET A HAT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE, UM, ANIMAL SHELTER FOLKS COMING HERE TONIGHT.

AND I WAS KIND OF AFTER THE LAST MEETING REFLECTING, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD COLLEAGUES SAYING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T DO ENOUGH AND COULD HAVE ALL THOSE YEARS.

AND, AND THEN ENDING THE MEETING SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA MOVE ON.

AND SO THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT THERE TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WALK THE WALK.

AND, UM, SO ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS HOPING TO SEE SOME MORE ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT WE DIDN'T GET THAT YET.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, UM, THANK YOU.

UM, I DID ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN IN THE LETTER OR AN EMAIL ABOUT THE LITTLE WOODS PARKING.

UM, SO MAYBE HE CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE BECAUSE I ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING.

'CAUSE EACH TENANT DOESN'T HAVE SPACE AT THEIR ACTUAL UNIT AND THEY IS WRITTEN IN THEIR CONTRACT.

SO THAT IS ONE QUESTION.

UM, BUT I DO WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT TOMORROW NIGHT, TUESDAY, AUGUST 4TH IS PETALUMA NIGHT OUT.

DO YOU WANNA SEE A HELICOPTER MDIC, POLICE CANINE? THEN DON'T MISS THE PETALUMA NIGHT OUT AT THE PETALUMA FAIRGROUNDS.

TOMORROW NIGHT, AUGUST 4TH FROM FOUR TO 7:00 PM THIS ANNUAL PUBLIC SAFETY FESTIVAL WILL FEATURE MORE THAN 30 BOOTHS HOSTED BY PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES.

NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDE THE PETAL IN THE FIRE, THE SAFE TEAM, THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, SONOMA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE RED CROSS, AND MANY OTHERS.

EACH BOOTH WILL OFFER ACTIVITIES, GIVEAWAYS, AND HELPFUL COMMUNITY RESOURCES.

THIS IS A GREAT FAMILY FUN, UM, EVENT.

AND THE VISITORS CAN ENJOY THE CITY'S EMERGENCY VEHICLES, FREE FOOD GAMES, MUSIC PRIZES, AND MORE.

THIS YEAR'S EVENT WILL ALSO INCLUDE AN ANIMAL SHELTER AND RESCUE SUPPLY DRIVE AND A COMMUNITY BLOOD DRIVE, A BACK TO SCHOOL PACK OF PATROL, CAR SUPPLY DRIVE.

ANYONE WHO CONTRIBUTES TO ANY OF THESE COMMUNITY DRIVES WILL RECEIVE A RAFFLE TICKET FOR A CHANCE TO WIN MORE PRIZES.

THE HOMELESS COALITION MEETING UPDATE THAT I ATTENDED VIA ZOOM LAST WEEK, STAFF FROM THE SONOMA COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES PRESENTED RESULTS FROM THE SPRING POINT IN TIME COUNT.

THEY WERE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT THAT THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS EXPLORE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS HAS DECREASED COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS COUNT.

STAFF ALSO DISCUSSED EMERGING DRUG TRENDS.

THEY NOTED CONCERNS ABOUT AN EXTREMELY POTENT SYNTHETIC DRUG THAT HAS APPEARED ON THE EAST COAST AND WOULD EVENTUALLY SPREAD TO THE WEST COAST.

ACCORDING

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TO THE PRESENTATION, THE SEPSIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE POTENT THAN FENTANYL AND MAY NOT RESPOND TO NARCAN OFFICIALS EXPRESS CONCERN THAT IT COULD BE MIXED, MIXED WITH OTHER ILLICIT DRUGS.

AND BECAUSE IT'S INEXPENSIVE TO PRODUCE.

SO THERE'S COTS, VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, COST IS SEEKING VOLUNTEERS TO HELP SERVE MEALS DURING AFTERNOON EVENING SHIFTS, AND VOLUNTEERS MUST BE AT LEAST 16 YEARS OR OLDER.

THEY THOSE INTERESTED OR ENCOURAGED TO VISIT THE COTS WEBSITE FOR ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND VOLUNTEER, UM, OPPORTUNITIES IN MEMORY OF CATHERINE.

THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR FOR ADURING, THE MA THE MEETING IN CATHERINE'S HONOR.

I FIRST MET CATHERINE MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO AFTER SHE MOVED TO LITTLE WOODS MOBILE HOME PARK LOCATED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE PARTICIPATED TOGETHER IN A FIGHT CANCER FUNDRAISING, WALKING THE CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL TRACK FOR SEVERAL HOURS TO RAISE MANY FOR CANCER.

DURING THAT TIME, CATHERINE SHARED HER PERSONAL JOURNEY WITH CANCER AND HOW SHE CAME TO LIVE IN PETALUMA.

OVER THE YEARS, I OCCASIONALLY PROVIDED HER TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM CITY HALL.

SHE WAS A REGULAR PRESENCE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WAS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO IMPROVING CONDITIONS AT LITTLE WOODS.

ALTHOUGH SHE WAS OFTEN MISSED, OUTSPOKEN, SOMETIMES MISUNDERSTOOD, CATHERINE WAS TIMELESS ADVOCATE WHO BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS IN OUR MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES.

MAY SHE REST IN PEACE? I LIKE TO THINK THAT SHE'S STILL WATCHING, NEVER PEDDLE, REMINDING US ALL NOT TO PARK IN FIRE LANES.

IF THERE ARE FIRE LANES IN HEAVEN.

I'M SURE CATHERINE IS MAKING SURE AND CERTAIN THAT EVERYONE KEEPS THEM CLEAR.

SO EMERGENCY VE VEHICLES CAN GO THROUGH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO I WANNA THANK STAFF AND THE MAYOR FOR COMING OUT, COMING OUT TO ADOBE CREEK, UH, THIS PAST WEEK, UH, AND MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

UH, MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE ADOBE CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD SUFFERS FROM A DILAPIDATED GOLF COURSE AND CLUBHOUSE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S JUST BEEN DETERIORATING FOR, UH, FOR YEARS.

AND IT'S A REAL NUISANCE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, STAFF WENT WITH OPEN EARS, LISTENED, UH, ANSWERED QUESTIONS, AND HAS COMMITTED TO, UH, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO SUPPORT, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE RESIDENTS IN ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES.

SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

HOPEFULLY I'LL WIN A PRIZE.

UH, AND I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THIS WEDNESDAY'S PAC MEETING HAS TWO, UH, IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEMS. ONE IS THE HOWARD STREET PROJECT AND ONE IS THE WAY FINDING PROJECT FOR THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

UH, SO, UH, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITIES TO COME AND SEE THE PRESENTATION ON THOSE PROJECTS AND PROVIDE PUBLIC INPUT.

UM, SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR PUBLIC PROCESS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UH, YOU TO COME IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I GOT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER REBS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, FIRST I DID ATTEND THE, UH, THE FAIRGROUNDS.

UH, UH, THERE WAS A MUSIC FESTIVAL FOR THE SCHOOLS, WHICH LOOKED LIKE WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

UH, THREE BANDS WERE ROTATING AROUND AND, AND INTERCHANGING MUSIC.

UH, ALL, ALL DAY LONG.

UH, I WAS ABLE TO VOLUNTEER AT THE RECYCLE, UH, AND TRASH.

WE WERE ABLE TO EDUCATE A LOT OF FOLKS ON WHERE TO PUT THINGS, UM, AND EVEN GET THE VENDORS TO, UH, MAYBE NUDGE THEM TO PUT MORE EFFORT INTO FIGURING OUT ALL RECYCLABLE MATERIALS.

SO THAT WAS PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.

UM, I WAS ABLE TO TALK THE AG AND OPEN SPACE, UM, UH, MEETING TO BE HELD AT OUR RIVER PARKSIDE, ANYWHERE ELSE IN SONOMA COUNTY.

AND SO WE HAD OVER 30 PEOPLE SHOW UP.

UM, A LOT OF THE LEADERS HERE, A COUPLE LEADERS IN TOWN SHOWED UP ALONG WITH THE, UH, THE FOLKS OF FRIENDS OF PAMA RIVER.

AND SO A REALLY NICE DISPLAY OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT THE, AT THE RIVER PARK THERE.

SO IT WAS A REALLY EN ENJOYABLE TIME THERE.

UM, I DID, UH, ATTEND A, UH, AQUAS COMMUNITY 2.0, UM, UH, LIKE AN INITIAL FUNDRAISING ENGAGEMENT TYPE, UH, MEETING.

AND, UH, THIS IS WHERE, UH, JOHN CROWLEY HAS BEEN TAKING THE LEAD, BUT ALSO NOW LED BY VAL, UH, RICHARD BEN.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO TRY AND INCREASE ENGAGEMENT OF COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT TOWN, PARTICULARLY ON THE EAST SIDE RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO ANYWAY, THERE'S A NEW MOVEMENT IN, IN TOWN HERE, SO PLEASE LOOK IT UP.

AND IT'S, UH, IT'S A NEW MOVEMENT THAT'S GONNA BE EXPANDING.

THEN THE, UM, I MET WITH SOME HOMEOWNERS AROUND THE KENWORTH JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

AND, UM, THERE HAS BEEN BEEN A LOT OF PAINTING ON, ON THE ROAD THERE TO INCREASE THE SAFETY OF THE, UM, ESPECIALLY DROP OFF AND PICKUP TIMES AND STUDENTS RIDING THEIR BIKES UP THERE.

LOTS

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OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UM, THE TEENAGERS, UM, AND EMOTO BIKES TYPE THINGS.

BUT THERE'S A WHOLE NEW SET OF STRIPES AND IT'S ALL DESIGNED FOR SAFETY.

UM, BUT THERE ARE SO MUCH MORE STRIPING THAT IF YOU'RE, IT'S THE FIRST TIME GOING UP THERE, THERE MAY BE OKAY, YOU MAY GET IT, KIND OF GET LOST TO WHERE, WHERE EVERYTHING IS.

'CAUSE IT'S CHANGED.

SO ANYTIME THERE'S A CHANGE.

SO I'M GONNA RECOMMEND IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT AT EITHER CORONA OR UH, OR KENNELWORTH, UM, PLEASE GO VISIT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS AND ACTUALLY CHECK OUT THE NEW STRIPING AND WHERE TO GO.

AND, UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE REDUCING YOUR SPEED DOWN BOTH SCHOOLS, IT'S 15 MILES AN HOUR, BY THE WAY.

I'M PASSING BY YOU TO THOSE SCHOOLS, INCLUDING FOR THE BIKES.

UM, WE TENDED THERE ARE RIBBON CUTTING, UM, AT BLANTON'S, AND THAT'S A NEW HAT AND BOOT STORE THAT IS MORE OF A HIGH END IF YOU LIKE.

I, I'VE SPENT SOME TIME IN TEXAS DOING SOME LINE DANCING.

AND WHEN FOLKS WENT OUT TO LINE DANCE, UH, THEY WORE SOME REALLY NICE BOOTS AND HATS.

SO IF YOU'RE INTO, AND WE HAVE A NICE LINE DANCING HERE, OCCURRING AT SEVERAL PLACES NOW.

SO IF YOU'RE IN INTO THAT, THAT'S A NICE PLACE TO GO.

THE RIBBON CUTTING WAS JUST THIS LAST WEEK.

UM, ALSO, UH, IF YOU GO BY THE ANOTHER SCHOOL AND, UH, WHICH IS THE LOMA VISTA AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ON MARIA DRIVE, THERE'S A WHOLE NEW SET OF, OF PAINT ON THE ROAD.

UM, THEY USE THE MASCOT BEAR FOR, UH, THE, UH, THE SCHOOL AND FOR, UM, UH, BE, UH, FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

AND SO IT'S, THE INTENT IS TO NOT ONLY SLOW FOLKS DOWN, MAKE AWARENESS THAT IT'S A, A YOUTH AREA, UM, AND IT'S ALSO FOR SAFETY.

SO IT'S A A WAS A REALLY WONDERFUL EVENT THAT A LOT OF STUDENTS AND PARENTS ARE OUT THERE DOING THE PAINTING ON, ON THE GROUND.

THEN, UM, THERE IS A FRIENDS OF THE PENAL RIVER, A FUNDRAISER COMING UP SHORTLY.

SO IF, UH, SO IT'S A GATHERING, UH, IT'S A REALLY SPIRIT EVENT WITH LOTS OF MUSIC, ALSO REALLY FUN EVENT.

SO THAT'S COMING UP, UM, IF YOU WANNA LOOK THAT ONE UP.

ALSO FROM, UH, LAST MEETING, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT AI CENTERS AND THE LIKE, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ABOUT WHAT I WAS ADVOCATING.

I WASN'T SURE IT CAME OUT CLEAR, BUT WE DO HAVE A TECHNOLOGY, UH, BUSINESSES IN TOWN, LOTS OF THEM AND I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THESE BUSINESSES.

IT WAS TELECOM VALLEY FOR A WHILE, UH, WITH A FC THAT WAS HERE.

SO I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THESE BUSINESSES, THE TELE, UH, TECHNOLOGY BUSINESSES, BUT I JUST WAS LOOKING FOR DRAWING THE LINE BETWEEN THEM AND THE BIG, THE REALLY BIG, UH, THE DATA CENTERS THERE.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON, ON SUPPORTING THEM.

UM, THAT'S HERE.

AND, UH, THAT'S MY REPORT FOR THIS TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, JUST WANT TO NOTE, IT'S A REAL CHIEF FOR PETALUMA TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS ON THE COUNTY AG AND OPEN SPACE ADVISORY B UH, BOARD.

THERE, THERE NO OTHER CITY HAS A REP ON IT.

WE HAVE TWO ON IT.

SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR THAT PARTICIPATION.

AND, UM, THEN I'D LIKE TO, UH, UH, NOTE THAT WE DO HEAR YOU, UM, FOLKS WHO ARE COMING IN AND TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMAL SYSTEM.

AND, UM, AND I THINK THERE'S STILL, UM, WORK TO BE DONE.

UH, THERE'S STILL, UH, REPORTS THAT WE NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT ON, UH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT FINANCIAL AND OTHER, UM, INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT.

AND THIS WILL BE ON OUR AGENDA, I THINK, AGAIN IN SEPTEMBER.

AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO INFORM ON WHAT WE KNOW AT THAT TIME, BOTH FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR SYSTEM, MIRANDA, ET CETERA, AND FROM INSIDE WHAT, WHAT OUR PLAN IS FOR GETTING US TO A PERMANENT NEW, UH, CONTRACTOR AT THE FACILITY.

SO, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THE END OF THE ROAD YET ON, ON A LOT OF THE ISSUES.

UM, AND, AND WE ARE TAKING IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

UM, AND IT, IT, I THINK ALL OF US FEEL, FEEL THE PAIN FROM IT.

UM, BUT, UM, SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT TO Y'ALL.

AND THEN, UM, THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT I, I'VE BEEN TO OVER THE, UH, RECENT TIME.

AND, UM, AND, UM, THE ONLY ONE PROBABLY NOT MENTIONED SO FAR IS, UH, KPS, UH, CA OR, UM, THE PER PEOPLE DOING THE VIDEO TONIGHT AND WHATNOT.

UH, ALSO HAVE RADIO CHANNEL STREAMING CHANNEL, BUT THERE ARE PUBLIC, THEY'RE OUR PUBLIC ACCESS CHANNEL, AND THEY'RE GROWING RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE MOVING INTO, UM, EMERGENCY SUPPORT.

THEY'RE MOVING INTO ALL KINDS, BUT THEY'LL ALSO TRAIN UP, UH, FOLKS WHO WANNA RUN THEIR OWN PO PART PODCAST OR, UH, WHO, WHO, UH, WANNA DO RADIO BROADCAST.

SO THEY'RE REAL COMMUNITY SERVICE RIGHT NOW, GETTING DIFFERENT VOICES HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, UM, I ALSO WANNA ANNOUNCE, ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, LATER THIS MONTH, UH, RIGHT HERE AT THE POLY CLASS CENTER WILL BE, UH, THERE'LL BE A MOVIE SHOWN BY GENERATION HOUSING THAT'S CALLED FAULT LINES.

AND, AND IT'S, UH, A DOCUMENTARY ON WHY IT'S SO HARD TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT THE HURDLES ARE TO BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHY WE STILL HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.

UM, THERE'LL BE A PANEL DISCUSSION AFTERWARDS.

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AND, UM, THEY'VE, UH, ASKED ME TO BE ON THE PANEL AT THAT TIME.

SO I CAN SHARE THE PETALUMA, UH, SIDE OF THAT STORY.

AND THAT'S MY REPORT, AND I'D LIKE TO PASS IT OVER TO

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OUR CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER NOW FOR MENTIONING NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, BECAUSE I WAS GONNA MENTION THAT, AND I'M GONNA ASK THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY TALK ABOUT MOBILE HOMES AND PARKING.

UM, THANK YOU.

CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, WE ARE, UM, LOOKING AT A GREAT NUMBER OF THINGS REGARDING, UM, THE DIRECTION THE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN US TO MAKE SURE TO CONTINUE TO UPHOLD AND WHERE POSSIBLE STRENGTHEN THE CITY'S MOBILE HOME, UM, REGULATION PROTECTIONS FOR MOBILE HOME RESIDENTS, UM, THAT ARE ALSO INTENDED TO ENSURE THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF, UM, MOBILE HOME PARK HOUSING AND PETALUMA THAT, UM, IS WHERE ALMOST 900 HOUSEHOLDS, UM, RESIDE IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, INCLUDING LOOKING AT WHAT APPEAR TO BE EFFORTS BY THE PARK OWNERS TO REDUCE SERVICES, INCLUDING IN THE FORM OF REDUCED PARKING.

UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 11 ACTIVE LAWSUITS, UM, REGARDING THESE MATTERS.

WE ARE SCHEDULED TO BE WITH THE COUNCIL ON THE 14TH OF, UM, OF SEPTEMBER TO DISCUSS THOSE IS IN AN OVERVIEW KIND OF WAY, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT, UM, BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF EFFORT THERE TO, UM, AS I SAID, UM, PROTECT THE HOUSING.

UM, I DON'T HAVE, WHAT, WHAT I WANNA SAY IS WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A NUMBER OF THINGS RELATED TO THE PARKING ISSUES AND, AND WE CONTINUE TO APPRECIATE WHEN THE RESIDENTS SEND US NOTICES THEY'RE RECEIVING ABOUT THESE THINGS.

'CAUSE WE NEED THAT SPECIFICITY TO ASSESS AND, AND, AND OUR EMPHASIS IN ALL THESE THINGS, UM, ARE, ARE NOT SYMBOLIC EFFORTS.

THEY'RE EFFORTS THAT ACTUALLY IMPACT AND PROTECT THE HOUSING.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BE THE MOST LIKELY WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

UM, WE'RE CONTINUE TO BE PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS WE'RE HAVING IN THE LITIGATION.

UM, AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE WHAT'S BEING LITIGATED ARE THINGS THAT THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED, UM, THAT THEY'RE FOR SOME REASON ARE BEING RE-LITIGATING NOW, NOW.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, AND, AND, AND LIKE WITH, WITH RESPECT TO ISSUES LIKE THE PARKING, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER CAREFULLY WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH, UM, UH, PROTECTING THE, THE, UM, THE STANDARD OF LIVING FOR OUR RESIDENTS, INCLUDING WITH PARKING ON SITE.

SO WE'LL HAVE MORE TO DISCUSS WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT THAT AND ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT BEST AVENUES FOR THAT.

UM, AND, AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE RESIDENTS TO KEEP US INFORMED BY SENDING US, UM, DOCUMENTS IS, THAT'S THE MOST HELPFUL WAY.

ALSO PHOTOS OF, OF, OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AND CALLING IS FINE TOO.

UM, SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE, THE, THE BEST UPDATE FOR ME.

AND IF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ADDRESS THEM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

UM, THAT MOVES US TO OUR

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CONSENT CALENDAR FOR THE EVENING.

AND, UM, UM, I GUESS, UH, LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE DESK, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? ANY ITEMS, UH, TO BE PULLED AND TREATED SEPARATELY? VICE MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM THREE, PLEASE.

UM, OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UM, THEN LET'S, UH, GO OVER TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT NOW AND AGAIN, THE, UH, UH, SIMILAR, UH, NARRATIVE AS TO EARLIER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE, THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

AND WE ARE TAKING THE CONSENT CALENDAR, PUBLIC COMMENT IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND, UH, TREAT THE CALENDAR AS, UH, REQUESTED.

SO THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS AND ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

AND OUR PROCEDURE ON AGENDA ITEMS WILL FOLLOW THE PROCESS THAT I SPOKE OVER EARLIER.

AND, UM, EXCEPT THAT THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS IS NOT LIMITED, THAT WAS THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE LAST ANIMAL CONTROL OPPORTUNITY.

PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.

HOWEVER, THE TIME PER SPEAKER MAY BE REDUCED DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.

WE WILL HEAR IN PERSON COMMENTS FIRST.

I WILL CALL THE SPEAKERS OF THE PODIUM WHEN THOSE ARE CONCLUDED, THE CITY CLERK WILL CALL THE REMOTE SPEAKERS TO UNMUTE THEMSELVES TOO.

SO, UM, MA'AM, CITY CLERK, HAVE WE, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR? UM, SORRY, I LOST

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MY NOTES ON THE, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

NOT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

UM, BUT WE DO HAVE 15 ATTENDEES IN THE MEETING.

AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL START A 32ND CLOCK FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, AND DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO MY DESK.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND, AND THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.

SPEAKER REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED.

OKAY.

NO CARDS.

UH, AND NO HANDS ONLINE EITHER.

NO CARDS AND NO HANDS.

AND SO THEN THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, AND I'LL BRING IT BACK UP TO THE DIOCESE.

LET'S TREAT, UH, ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND FOUR FIRST, AND THEN, UH, MOVE TO ITEM THREE AS A SEPARATE ITEM.

AND SO ON ONE, TWO, AND FOUR, ANY, UH, CONCERNS, COMMENTS? AND, UM, I DID HAVE ONE, UH, COMMENT I'M GONNA MAKE.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

I, I SENSED A MOTION COMING.

IS THAT, DID I HAVE THAT RIGHT? YEP.

YEAH.

SO, UM, BEFORE THAT, UM, UH, THE TENTATIVE AGENDA, UH, ITEM TWO, UH, HAS A, UM, ATTACHMENT THAT'S CALLED, UH, SIGNIFICANT ITEMS FOR FUTURE.

AND I WAS HOPING FOR OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING THAT COULD INCLUDE THE ICE OUT.

I DON'T THINK I SAW ICE, UH, UH, OUR RESPONSE TO, UM, THAT PETITION FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND I'D LIKE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PLAN FOR ADDRESSING THAT PUBLIC CONCERN.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S JUST A DIRECTION TO SUGGESTION TO STAFF ON BASED ON PAST, UH, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

SO, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEMS ONE, TWO, AND FOUR.

THANK YOU.

ONE SECOND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

A MOTION BY QUINT.

UM, A SECOND BY NOW.

AND, UM, BACK TO THE CITY CLERK FOR A ROLL CALL.

VOTE BARNACLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON? YES.

DI CARLY? YES.

NOW? YES.

QUINT? YES.

REBS? YES.

MCDONALD? YES.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

AND, UM, AND NOW FOR ITEM THREE, THE RESOLUTION

[3. Resolution Authorizing the Purchase of Five Battery Electric Buses from New Flyer Industries and Authorizing Staff to Execute all Necessary Documentation to Complete the Purchase]

FOR PURCHASE OF FIVE BATTERY BUSES.

UM, VICE MAYOR, YOU, UM, ASK FOR THAT BE PULLED.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I DID, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT, BUT I REALIZED THAT, YOU KNOW, CITY POLICY WANTS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING FLEET.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MY, MY CONCERN IS LESS POLICY AND MORE LOGIC.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD A TRANSIT MEETING THIS YEAR WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE LOST OVER A MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING.

UH, SOME OF THE ROUTES ARE LOW, SOME OF THE ROUTES WERE CANCELED, REROUTED.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT HAS SHRUNK AND, UM, AND IT'S NOT QUITE AS WIDELY USED.

AND SO I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT'S FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE OR IT MAKES SENSE TO THEN ALSO BE PURCHASING NEW BUSES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NO REASON.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL BUSES NOW.

THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NO REASON.

AND SO I'M NOT GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS.

AND, AND IN ADDITION, IT'S, I THINK IT'S FIVE AND A HALF MILLION, YOU KNOW, ON NEW BUSES.

AND I REALIZE THAT'S GRANT MONEY, BUT IT'S STILL STILL TAXPAYER DOLLARS AT THE END OF THE DAY, SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE TO DO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I'LL MOVE THE ITEM.

AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT SINCE MID 24 WHEN DIESEL IN CALIFORNIA WAS AROUND $4 AND 90 CENTS, UM, RIGHT, IT PEAKED THIS YEAR IN MAY AT $700 AND 35 CENTS A GALLON.

RIGHT NOW IT'S $6 AND 30 CENTS.

UM, I THINK, UH, IT'S PRUDENT FOR US TO BE MOVING TOWARD ELECTRIC WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GENERATE THE ELECTRICITY LOCALLY, UM, AND, UH, AND BE, UH, FIXING OUR ELECTRICITY PRICES WHEREVER WE CAN.

SO I'M HAPPY TO MOVE THE ITEM.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL SECOND AND I'LL SAY THAT WE JUST UPGRADED OUR BUS, UM, SO THEY COULD GO ELECTRIC.

THE FLEET YARD, THE TERMINAL.

THE TERMINAL.

YEP.

TERMINAL.

TERMINAL.

THANK YOU.

I CAN TALK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHREMS, UH, JUST ADDING A COMMENT.

UM, I, I WILL SUPPORT THIS AND IT'S, UH, NOT JUST BUYING, UM, THE NEW EQUIPMENT, BUT ALSO WE CAN, IF, IF WE HAVE MORE BUSES THAT WE NEED, WE CAN SELL SOME OF THE GAS GUZZLING BUSES AND, AND GET INTO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT ACTUALLY NEED THOSE.

'CAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE ELECTRIC ONES AT ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, AND, AND I JUST, I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT, IN 2020, WE DECLARED OURSELVES CLIMATE READY AND DECLARED, UH, A FRAMEWORK THAT ALL DECISIONS WOULD BE VIEWED WITH THAT LENS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ISSUES GO OFF THE FRONT PAGE AND THEY'RE NOT THAT IMPORTANT OR YOU DON'T REMEMBER.

IT'S LIKE, I THINK CLIMATE IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE HAVE TO KEEP REPEATING TO OURSELVES AND KEEP SAYING, OH, THOSE FIRES THAT WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT FOND OF, THAT ARE BLOWING SMOKE OVER TOWN.

THE OTHER, UM, BATTLES

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IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

EVERYTHING, IF, IF, UH, ELECTRIFICATION HAS SO MANY POSITIVES TO, TO THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, I, I'D BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

SO WE HAD A MOTION FROM BARNACLE AND A SECOND FROM NOW.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE PLEASE.

BARNACLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON? YES.

DI CARLY? NO.

NOW YES.

QUINT.

YES.

REPPS? YES.

MCDONALD? YES.

MOTION CARRIES WITH ONE NO VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT MOVES US TO PUBLIC

[5. Introduction (First Reading) of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Petaluma for a Zoning Text Amendment to Amend the Scott Ranch Planned Unit District (PUD) Development Standards to Rescind Section 5.3 Prohibiting Swimming Pools and Add to Table 5.1: Land Uses, Residential District, Swimming Pool, Hot Tub, and Spa as Permitted Accessory Uses, Subject to Specific Use Standards under Implementing Zoning Ordinance (IZO) Section 7.080]

HEARINGS MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THIS IS AN INTRODUCTION OF FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY, OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO AMEND THE SCOTT RANCH PLANNED UNIT DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO RESCIND SECTION 5.3 PROHIBITING SWIMMING POOLS AND ADD TABLE 5.1.

LAND USES RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS SWIMMING POOL, HOT TUB AND SPA AS PERMITTED ACCESSORY UNITS USES SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC USE STANDARDS UNDER IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 7.080.

AND TO HELP US WITH THIS TONIGHT, WE HAVE MIKE, JANICE, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, UM, FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU MAYOR MCDONALD AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME IS MIKE JANUS.

AND HERE TO PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE SCOTT RANCH PUD AMENDMENT.

AN OVERVIEW OF MY PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

I'LL GO THROUGH PROJECT BACKGROUND, UH, DESCRIBE THE SCOPE OF WORK AND PROVIDE STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATION.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WEST OF D STREET ALONG WINDSOR DRIVE.

UH, THIS PUD AMENDMENT PERTAINS SOLELY TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.

THAT'S THE 12 ACRES, UH, IN THE NORTHWEST OF THE PUD THAT CAN CONSISTS OF THE 28 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE INSET MAP THERE'S ALSO A 47 ACRE PUBLIC, UH, PARKS AND OPEN SPACE, UH, CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE PD AMENDMENT, UM, OR ALSO PART OF THE SCOTT RANCH, PUD.

THE AMENDMENT, UH, DOES NOT INCLUDE, UH, THAT PORTION OF THE PUD UH, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.

ABOUT HALF OF THE HOMES HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED.

UM, THIS PD AMENDMENT, IT PERTAINS TO SWING POOLS AND IT WOULD ONLY AFFECT, UH, THE PRIVATE, UM, FENCED IN REAR YARDS.

THE, UH, GENERAL PLANNED LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE IS VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, THE PD AMENDMENT PROPOSED THIS EVENING WOULD NOT AFFECT PROJECT DENSITY, UM, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, UH, WITH THE VESTING TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP.

UM, IT WAS, UH, 0.6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS THE LOWEST ALLOWABLE DENSITY FOR THE SITE.

AND THE ZONING WAS SWITCHED FROM R ONE TO PUD, UM, WITH THAT SUITE OF APPROVALS, UM, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, UM, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE VESTING TENANT SUBDIVISION MAP, THE CERTIFIED EIR AND THE PUD IN EARLY 2023.

AND IN 2025, THERE WAS A SUBSEQUENT SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW FOR MORE DETAILED ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPING.

UM, IT'S ALSO NOTEWORTHY, UM, THE ORIGIN OF THE PROHIBITION ON SWIMMING POOLS WITHIN THE PUD, UM, WAS FIRST BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING IN AUGUST OF 2022, UM, WHICH WAS REQUIRED BEFORE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL IN 2023.

UM, THIS WAS THE SAME PERIOD IN TIME WHERE THERE WAS A MORATORIUM ON NEW POOL PERMITS.

UM, AND A STAGE FOUR, UM, WATER CON WATER SHORTAGE CONTINGENCY PLAN WAS IN EFFECT AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, UM, IN THE, IN THE SAME TIME, AUGUST, 2022.

THE, UM, REQUESTED AMENDMENT BEFORE THIS EVENING IS TO REMOVE SECTION 5.3, WHICH PROHIBITS SWIMMING POOLS AS AN ACCESSORY USE AND STRUCTURE, AND THEN TO ADD SWIMMING POOL, HOT TUB AND SPA AS A ALLOWED, UH, PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE.

AND THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE ON TABLE 5.1 WITHIN THE PUD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

UM, GOING B UH, GOING BACK, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE.

THE, UM, THE REQUEST IS APPLICANT INITIATED.

UM, IT IS PURSUANT TO, UH, THE PROCEDURE IN IEO SECTION 19 0 40 E TWO, WHICH REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL, UM, THE DRAFT ORDINANCES AND ATTACHMENT ONE IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING.

AND IT WAS FORWARDED AND RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION BY A VOTE OF FORWARD TO ONE WITH ONE RECUSAL AND ONE ABSENCE.

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UM, THAT, UM, EXECUTED RESOLUTIONS AND ATTACHMENT TWO.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT IS TO BRING THE, UM, PUD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS INTO ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, CITYWIDE REGULATIONS FOR POOLS.

AND THOSE CITYWIDE REGULATIONS INCLUDE THE 2025 URBAN WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS THE WATER CONSERVATION ORDINANCE.

UM, THE WATER SHORTAGE CONTINGENCY PLAN IS A PART OF THE URBAN WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A, A DOCUMENT REQUIRED BY THE STATE EVERY FIVE YEARS THAT PLANS, UM, FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS OF, UH, TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR SUFFICIENT WATER RESOURCES.

UM, THE URBAN, UH, THE WATER SHORTAGE CONTINGENCY PLAN.

UM, AS I, AS I MENTIONED, CITY COUNCIL CAN ADOPT PROHIBITION ON, UH, NEW POOL PERMITS.

THEY CAN RESTRICT, UM, TOPPING OFF OF POOLS OR, UM, FILLING OF POOLS, UM, DURING THESE DROUGHT PERIODS.

AND THEN THE WATER CONSERVATION ORDINANCE.

UM, NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WITH MORE THAN 500 SQUARE FEET OF LANDSCAPING THAT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT OR DESIGN REVIEW ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH AN IRRIGATION PLAN THAT SHOWS A WATER BUDGET CALCULATION AND SWIMMING POOLS, UM, PER THE, UH, WATER EFFICIENT LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE ARE CONSIDERED A, UM, AN OUTDOOR WATER FEATURE, AND THEY'RE TREATED AS A HIGH WATER USE, UH, LANDSCAPE, UH, FEATURE.

AND THE APPLICANT HAS PREPARED AN ATTACHMENT SIX, UM, WITH THEIR FINAL LANDSCAPE PLANS.

THEY'VE, UM, PREPARED A WATER BUDGET THAT ASSUMES A MIDSIZE POOL ON ALL 28 LOTS, AND THEY DEMONSTRATE, UM, THAT THE WATER USE WOULD COME IN, UM, UNDER, WITH THE EIR, THE CERTIFIED EIR, UM, HAD ESTIMATED, WHICH IS 3.9 ACRE FEET PER YEAR.

UM, AND THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED MAINLY, UM, BY THE FACT THAT THE EIR WAS CONSERVATIVE IN ITS WATER ESTIMATES.

AND ALSO, AS THE LANDSCAPE PLANS HAVE GONE THROUGH SPAR AND GONE THROUGH BUILDING PERMIT, THEY'VE BECOME A LOT MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE PLANTINGS PROPOSED, UM, TO THE POINT WHERE 86% OF THE PLANTINGS ARE LOW WATER USE.

UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING REQUIREMENT WAS MET DURING THE SUITE OF ENTITLEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDED THE PROJECT EIR AND A VERY ROBUST, UH, PUBLIC PROCESS SPANNING TWO DECADES.

UM, THE PD AMENDMENT WAS, UH, BROUGHT TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN JUNE.

UH, THERE WERE 19 PUBLIC COMMENTS, ONE, EXPRESSING SUPPORT AND 18 EXPRESSING CONCERNS OVER HABITAT, DRAINAGE, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, AND THE SOURCE OF THE PROHIBITION.

UH, BEFORE THIS HEARING, FIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, UH, REGARDING THE SAME, UH, TOPICS OF CONCERN, UH, REGARDING, UH, HABITAT CONSERVATION.

UM, THE APPLICANT HAS OBTAINED ALL OUTSIDE AGENCY PERMITS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE, AS WELL AS THE, UH, CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE.

UM, THE CERTIFIED EIR DID, UH, ANALYZE, UH, AND DISCLOSE A PERMANENT LOSS OF 8.26 ACRES OF DISPERSAL HABITAT FOR THE CALIFORNIA RED LUGGED FROG.

UM, AND THIS WOULD BE A DIRECT RESULT OF THE SIGHTING OF THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

UM, THESE AND OTHER IMPACTS WERE, UH, MITIGATED THROUGH THE ADOPTED MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM.

AND THOSE, UM, MEASURES WERE ALL CARRIED OUT THROUGH THE, UH, OUTSIDE AGENCY PERMITS.

UM, IN YOUR PACKET THIS EVENING IS ALSO A BIOLOGIST MEMO, WHICH, UH, WAS PREPARED, UM, TO MORE COMPREHENSIVELY, UH, AND DIRECTLY RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING.

UH, THIS, THE, THIS MEMO SPECIFICALLY SPEAKS TO POOLS SERVING AS AN ATTRACTOR TO, UH, THE RED-LEGGED FROG OR OTHER ANIMALS.

UM, AND CONCLUDES THAT THE FENCING, THE MATORY POOL COVERS, UM, REALLY THIS, UM, CHLORINE PER, UH, SERVING AS A STERILE ENVIRONMENT, UH, WOULD NOT BE A, AN ATTRACTOR TO THESE SPECIES AS THERE'D BE NO, UH, FOOD SOURCES, UM, FOR DRAINAGE.

UM, DRAINAGE WOULD BE RARE.

UH, HAVING AN EMPTY POOL ACTUALLY POSES SOME SEVERE, UM, STRUCTURAL CONCERNS.

UM, IF AND WHEN POOLS ARE ARE DRAINED, IT WOULD LIKELY BE DONE BY A LICENSED POOL PROFESSIONAL.

UM, UH, DISCHARGING, UH, POLLUTANTS TO THE STORM DRAIN IS PROHIBITED BY FEDERAL LAW AS WELL AS THE CITY'S LOCAL, UH, STORM STORMWATER ORDINANCE.

AND, UM, POOLS ARE, UH, THEY DON'T

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HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION, BUT THE WATER IS PUMPED VIA SUM PUMP, UH, TO A, UH, SANITARY SEWER CLEANOUT, WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, ALL, UH, 28 LOTS HAVE A SEWER CLEANOUT.

UM, IT'S, UH, PER, UM, CALIFORNIA PLUMBING CODE.

AND THEN THE HOAS ALSO WOULD, UM, ADD SOME, UH, PROVISION.

UM, JUST TO REITERATE THAT DISCHARGE OF ANY POOL DRAINAGE, UM, SHALL BE TO THE SEWER CLEANUP.

UH, REGARDING THE, UH, THE ORIGIN OF THE PROHIBITION ON POOLS.

UM, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UH, IT'S NOT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OR A MITIGATION MEASURE.

UM, IT'S IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN SECTION 5.3.

UM, A REVIEW OF THE RECORD INDICATES THE STANDARDS WERE, UH, DRAFTED AND BROUGHT FORWARD TO PLANNING COMMISSION AUGUST, 2022.

UM, THIS IS THE SAME, UH, TIMING AS THE STAGE FOUR, UM, WATER CONTINGENCY PLAN, UH, WAS GOING INTO EFFECT.

AND SO IT INDICATES THAT, UM, THIS WAS A POLICY DECISION, UH, MADE BY STAFF DURING THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW OF THE ENTITLEMENTS, UH, STANDARDS OF REVIEW.

UH, STAFF IS ABLE TO MAKE ALL NECESSARY FINDINGS, UM, THERE IN YOUR, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, IN YOUR ORDINANCE.

UM, IN SUMMARY, THE AMENDMENT MAINTAINS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND HILLSIDE CHARACTER OF THE PUD, UH, WHILE ALLOWING POOLS TO BE PERMITTED, UH, THE SAME AS ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY, ENSURES THE PUBLIC NECESSITY AND CONVENIENCE.

THE PROPOSED PD AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW SWIMMING POOLS AS AN ACCESSORY USE SOLELY WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE SCOTT RANCH, PD SUBJECT TO CITY WIDE WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES, UH, ENSURING THE GENERAL WELFARE AND BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND ANY PROPOSED SWIMMING POOL.

HOT TOBER SPA WOULD REQUIRE A POOL PERMIT AND WOULD BE SUBJECT TO SETBACK FENCING AND EXCLUSIVE USE REGULATIONS UNDER IEO SECTION 7 0 80 TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH, UH, NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES FOR CQA.

THE PROPOSED PD AMENDMENT HAS BEEN ANALYZED PURSUANT TO SE Q GUIDELINES, SECTION 1 5 1 6 2.

UH, THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIAL PROJECT CHANGES, NO SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES IN CIRCUMSTANCES, AND NO NEW INFORMATION INDICATING NEW SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS.

UM, THEREFORE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE PROJECT ANALYZED IN THE CERTIFIED EIR AND NO FURTHER ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS NECESSARY AND WHAT THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS.

CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCE THE ORDINANCE IN ATTACHMENT ONE TO AMEND THE SCOTT RANCH PUD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ADD SWIMMING POOL, HOT TUB AND SPA AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

UH, THE APPLICANT'S ALSO IN ATTENDANCE, AND I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT THEY, UM, MAY WANT TO SPEAK OR HAVE, UH, OR ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK IT'S OUR PATTERN TO ALLOW THE, UH, APPLICANT TO TAKE, UH, A MINUTE NOW AND, UH, AND, UM, SPEAK.

YEAH.

HI.

HI, MAYOR.

HI, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU.

UH, I'M JORDAN FIGA, DIRECTOR OF SITE DEVELOPMENT FOR DAVID ON, UM, UH, I HELPED PUT TOGETHER A LOT OF THIS.

I'M UP TO SPEAK FOR, UH, SCOTT RANCH LINK.

MIKE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE PRESENTATION, ALTHOUGH HE DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT HOW GREAT THAT, UH, ROUNDABOUT LOOKS AT THE END OF, UH, D STREET THERE, .

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, IT GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY AUDIT, UH, THESE COUPLE ITEMS, UH, WHEN IT CAME TO WATER USAGE, BEING ABLE TO ACTUALLY LOOK BACK AT THE EIR.

UM, LIKE MIKE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS WERE ASSUMPTIONS AT THE TIME THE ER WAS DRAFTED, AND NOW WE HAVE FULL LANDSCAPE PLANS FOR THE OFFSITE, FOR FRONT YARDS AND COMMON AREA.

SO WE WERE REALLY ABLE TO ZERO IN EXACTLY WHAT OUR WATER USAGE ACTUALLY IS.

WE UTILIZED, UH, VANDER TUEN, WHO'S THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT TO PUT TOGETHER A PLANT PALLET, UM, THAT WE WOULD SEE IN A REAR YARD, UH, WITH A POOL WITH FLAT WORK, UM, AND WITH THIS DEMOGRAPHIC.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS COME IN FROM THE HOAS PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE ACTUALLY SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S COMING IN.

UM, IT ALSO LET US LOOK INTO, UM, THE BIOLOGICAL STANDPOINT OF IT, UH, REVIEWING EVERYTHING BACK AGAINST THE PERMITS, REALLY JUST TO CROSS I CROSS T'S AND DOT I'S FOR, FOR THIS.

BUT, UM, LET US LOOK AT THAT.

BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT IS ALSO, UH, TALKING TO THE ACTUAL BUYERS, RIGHT? SO TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STICKING TO THE TECHNICAL SIDES OF THIS, UM, BUT WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF BUYERS THAT WERE VERY INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT AMENITY, UM, EXPECTING TO HAVE THAT AMENITY.

UM, AND IT HAS REALLY IMPACTED US.

THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IS QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS EVEN A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

UH, IT'S COOLED OFF QUITE A BIT IN THIS AREA.

UM, AND SO THIS IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A, UM, RATHER THAN A, A PUNITIVE BURDEN ON THE PROJECT

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WOULD ACTUALLY HELP, UM, UH, FULFILL THOSE, THE PEOPLE, UH, TRYING TO PURCHASE THERE.

SO, UH, WE DID BRING A FULL TEAM TONIGHT TO ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS.

UH, WE BROUGHT ON ZOOM, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO INTRODUCE 'EM ON ZOOM, BUT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.

UH, WE BROUGHT, UM, MARY CARDIN WITH VANDER TUIN WHO ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER THE, UH, WATER USE CALCULATIONS.

SEAN ALIF IS A, UH, WAS ZENNER ECOLOGY.

AND THEN, UM, HERE TONIGHT WE HAVE JULIE JONES OR SE O ATTORNEY AND, UH, STEVE ABS, WHO IS THE, UH, PROJECT HISTORIAN I GUESS.

SO, UM, UH, WE'RE WELCOME TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, GREAT PRESENTATION.

UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, HAVING THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY AND, AND, UM, A LOT OF THE, UH, COMMENTARY GOT DONE AT, AT THAT TIME.

BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK THE, UH, COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ON THE ITEM? AND, UM, I DID HAVE ONE.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SENSE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE? ARE WE THINKING EVERY HOUSE NEEDS A POOL? UM, I ALWAYS THINK THE ONLY THING I HAVEN'T HEARD OF IN TERMS OF EIR IS, UM, LOOKS TO ME LIKE HALF OF THESE ARE GEOLOGICALLY INAPPROPRIATE, EVERYTHING ABOVE THE ROAD.

AND FIRST QUESTION, ORDER MAGNITUDE.

SECOND QUESTION IS, DOES CITY HAVE A RULE THAT SAYS A POOL NEEDS GEOLOGICAL INVESTIGATION? SO, SO WHEN WE ANALYZED THIS, WE ASSUMED THERE WAS 28 POOLS, RIGHT? SO WE WANTED TO HIT, AND, AND WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT THE CITY OFFSETS, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY A POOL OFFSET SIX FEET FROM EVERY PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN WE BACKED INTO EVERYBODY HAVING A MODERATELY SIZED POOL ON AVERAGE.

SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY EXPECTING? UM, REALLY EXPECTING THREE OR FOUR POOLS BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.

UH, WE HAVE HAD THREE POTENTIAL BUYERS COME AT US WITH POOLS.

NOT ALL OF THEM STAYED.

UH, SOME OF 'EM ACTUALLY HAVE POOL CONTINGENCIES WITH THE PURCHASE OF THEIR HOME.

UM, SO THERE IS INTEREST THERE.

BUT, UH, WITH ABOUT THAT ANSWERS THE FIRST QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

AND STAFF ON THE GEOLOGY? UH, YES, MAYOR, THERE WOULD BE A STRUCTURAL, UM, REVIEW OF ANY POOL PERMIT WITH THE BUILD THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, GEOTECHNICAL ANALYSIS AS APPROPRIATE.

FABULOUS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, NOT SEEING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

LET'S, UH, PIVOT TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM.

AND, UM, AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, THE PUBLIC'S INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS, UH, ON THIS ITEM.

AND, UM, UH, WE HAVE THE, THE SAME PROCESS OF ZOOM AND OF, UH, IN PERSON.

SO I'LL PASS IT TO THE CLERK TO, UH, BEGIN THEN.

YES, WE DID HAVE, UH, FOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING, AND THOSE ARE POSTED ONLINE AND WE DO HAVE 13 ATTENDEES ON THE ZOOM CALL AT THIS TIME.

I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK DURING THESE 30 SECONDS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO MY DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND AND THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.

SPEAKER REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED, AND WE DO HAVE ONE ONLINE SPEAKER REQUEST.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY IN-PERSON CARDS.

NO IN-PERSON CARDS.

AND ONE SPEAKER.

WELL, THEN WE'LL GO DIRECTLY TO OUR ZOOM PARTICIPANT.

GREAT.

AND SUSAN KIRKS, WOULD YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND SPEAK.

THANK YOU.

SUSAN KIRKS PETALUMA.

I SUBMITTED A WRITTEN COMMENT, SO I'LL BE BRIEF SINCE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE UP MUCH TIME.

UM, NO ONE HAS, NO ONE ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE MANIPULATION OF THE PROCESS WHERE THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO PUT POOLS IN AND SPAS AND HOT TUBS IN THE ORIGINAL REVIEW WHEN YOU, WHEN THE COUNCIL CERTIFIED THE EIR AND, UH, APPROVED THE PROJECT AND THE M GROUP MANIPULATED THAT PROCESS, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF YOU SHOULD HAVE POSED A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.

WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SPEAK TO IS THE FACT THAT THE ECOLOGIST THAT, UH, WROTE A MEMO THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET HAS NO IDEA WHERE THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IN WEST PETALUMA CONNECTING THIS HABITAT AREA TO OTHER HABITAT AREAS IS.

UH, SO THAT INFORMATION IN THE MEMO IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.

THE PROPERTY ITSELF HAS ALREADY CAUSED OBSTRUCTION, AND WE HAVE DOCUMENTED ONE MOUNTAIN LION MOVING THROUGH, NOR IN A WAY THAT NORMALLY WOULD BE, UM, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE KELLY CREEK PROPERTY AND

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UP NORTH THROUGH THAT, AND ALSO THROUGH THE PAOLO LANE PROPERTY.

BUT THE MOUNTAIN LION HAD TO MOVE WEST.

AND THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO CONTINUE WHERE ANIMALS WHO ARE LARGER PREDATORS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRAVERSE THROUGH, UM, AREAS WHERE THERE ARE RESIDENCES AND THERE ARE ANIMALS THERE.

WHEREAS NORMALLY THE ANIMALS WOULD MOVE THROUGH A CORRIDOR THAT EXIST AND WOULD NOT BE, UM, BE MOVING THROUGH WHERE THERE ARE THAT MANY OTHER ANIMALS.

SO THAT SHOULD BE A CONCERN FOR ALL OF YOU.

AND UM, LASTLY, THERE'S A MENTION IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ALSO WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU ABOUT WILDLIFE CORRIDORS IN BETWEEN THE HOMES AND BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LIKE A FEW FEET WIDE.

THESE ARE NOT WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, THESE ARE CONCOCTED AREAS THAT ARE DESCRIBED.

AND, AND AS WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT.

A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IS AN AREA THAT OF NATURAL MOVEMENT PATTERNS THAT CONNECTS HABITAT AREAS.

SO WILDLIFE CAN MOVE FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND, UH, THAT WAS OUR ONLY COMMENT FOR THE EVENING.

SO WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE EVENING, BRINGING IT BACK UP TO COUNCIL FOR, UH, THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS.

AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER REBS, UM, YES, I'LL BE VOTING NO FOR A LOT OF REASONS ON THIS ONE.

UM, THE, UM, AS WE WENT THROUGH IT PRIORLY AND, UM, AND DISCUSSED IT, YES, THERE WAS A WATER RESTRICTIONS AT THAT TIME, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHY THE POOLS WERE NOT DESIRED.

AND I THINK THERE WAS EVEN AT LEAST VERBAL AGREEMENTS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT NO POOLS WOULD BE IN THESE PROPERTIES WHATSOEVER.

THAT WOULD BE ALL NATURAL LANDSCAPE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE LARGER ANIMALS, UH, OF TRANSITIONING WHATEVER, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE INSECTS AND BIRDS, WHICH ARE, WHICH, WHICH WILL BE, UM, COMING IN AND OUT OF THESE PROPERTIES.

SO FOR, UM, AND, AND THIS IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL CITY HOMES, THESE ARE HOMES THAT ARE PLACED RIGHT NOW AND, AND AGREED ON THAT THEY'RE IN A MIDDLE OF A PARK, BASICALLY IT, THE PARK EXTENSION GOES TO THE DOORS AND, AND BASICALLY A ROUTE RIGHT AROUND THEM.

SO THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL, UM, SUBURBAN OR EVEN CITY DWELLINGS.

THESE ARE PARK U PARK BASED HOMES.

AND, UH, AND IF THEY'RE PARK BASED HOMES, THE, THE WHOLE ATTITUDE WAS NO POOLS, NO HOT TUBS, UH, NO NOISE MAKING, NO, UH, LOUD NOISES, NO LOUD PARTIES.

THAT WAS SORT OF LIKE, THAT'S WHAT WAS DESIRED FROM AT, UH, FROM A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT WERE AGAINST ANY HOUSING IN THIS AREA.

SO A LOT OF COMPROMISING WAS MADE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF SORT OF LIKE UNDERSTANDINGS THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IT AS, UH, AS QUIET AND SUBDUED AS POSSIBLE, LET THE FOLKS MOVE IN AND REALLY ENJOY NATURE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I ALSO SEE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE GEO, UM, UH, STATISTICS AND, AND UH, DESIGN.

UM, I WENT OUT THERE JUST BEFORE THE MEETING AND YES, THERE IS, THE HOUSES ARE THERE, VERY LOVELY, BEAUTIFUL LARGE HOUSES, UH, VERY MODERN.

AND THE BACKYARDS, THEY MADE ALMOST EVERY BACKYARD FLAT.

UH, BUT BY MAKING EVERY YARD FLAT, 'CAUSE IT WAS A STEEP HILL TO START WITH, IS EVEN STEEPER RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT FENCE.

IT EITHER GOES UP OR DOWN VERY STEEPLY AND ALL THESE SOILS, UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE THEM BE ENGINEERED ROADS BASED TYPE SOILS.

I CAN SEE THEM ERODING, I CAN SEE POOLS BEING PUT IN.

IT'S GONNA BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.

I CAN SEE THAT THESE ARE GONNA NEED DOUBLE WALL THICKNESSES WITH EXTRA, UH, VERY EXPENSIVE POOLS TO EVEN PUT IN.

SO I CAN SEE THAT BEING A REAL PROBLEM.

UM, AND THEN, UH, HAVING, HAVING LIVED NEXT TO POOLS, UM, THERE IS DISRUPT FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

THEY SAID, OKAY, WE CHECKED WITH NEIGHBORS.

BUT, UM, IT IS VERY DISRUPTIVE TO NEIGHBORS POOLS, EITHER, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE, THE KIDS PARTIES.

AND THEN AFTER TALKING WITH SEVERAL OF POOL OWNERS, EVERY ONE OF 'EM SAID IT, IT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY HUGE EXPENSE.

UM, AND, AND REALLY IF THEY HAD THEIR CHOICE, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE PUT IT IN.

SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WANT POOLS, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUNG FAMILIES.

IT'S A GREAT DESIRE.

IT'S A GREAT, LOOKS LIKE A GREAT AMENITY, BUT I'M LOOKING AT EVEN FOR THE COST EFFECTIVENESS FOR A SALES PITCH, UM, MIGHT WORK LONG TERM.

I DON'T THINK SO.

AND THEN THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT THE WATER, THE DRAINAGE, ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.

UM, YES, THERE'S, I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT YES, IT CAN'T GO RIGHT INTO STRAIGHT INTO THE HOUSE DRAIN, BUT IT CAN GO INTO THE SEWER DRAIN, BUT THEY'RE THE SAME DRAIN.

I MEAN, THEY GO THE SAME PLACE.

SO I'M NOT SURE, UH, HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK, UM, IF WITH, IF WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR ZONING TO DO ALL THIS AND THE WORDS ON IT.

UM, SO TO ENHANCE THE, THE EXPERIENCE, THE NATURE EXPERIENCE OF THESE HOUSES, WHICH THEY HAVE, THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF, OF THAT, OF THESE HOUSES, TO HAVE THAT.

UM, HAVING POOLS WITH PARTIES AND NOISE AND KIDS SPLASHING.

UH,

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I THINK IT'S, IT'S REALLY A REALLY NICE AMENITY INSIDE, UM, UH, CITY LOTS THAT'S INSIDE CITIES.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, THIS IS NOT A NORMAL CITY SITUATION.

SO I'LL BE VOTING NO ON IT.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANNA WEIGH IN? COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY.

SO I WENT BACK AND WATCHED PORTIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND I DIDN'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT 'CAUSE I DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS NECESSARY TO REENACT THAT.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMED AS IF STAFF DIRECTED THE DEVELOPER TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE, UH, SWIMMING POOLS OFF THE TABLE, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING AND IN, IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THINGS.

AND NOW HERE IT IS BACK.

AND SO I KIND OF, I TAKE ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, TO GET, TO GET THINGS THROUGH FIRST AND THEN COME BACK AND DO SOME HARDER ONES OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHATEVER THAT BE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST SWIMMING POOLS, BUT I THINK AS FAR AS PROCESS GOES, UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE UP FRONT AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANNA SEE IN THEIR PROJECT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED RIGHT UP FRONT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO A, A PARK THAT WAS PROMISED THAT'S DOESN'T SEEM TO BE HAPPENING NOW, BUT NOW WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THE POOLS IN.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I I DON'T SUPPORT THIS ITEM EITHER.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

QUINT.

YEAH, SO I, I KIND OF TAKE ISSUE WITH THE IDEA THAT THE, THESE HOMES ARE, UM, THEY'RE IN A PARK, AND SO THAT MAKES THEM DIFFERENT THAN SOMETHING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

I MEAN, SCOTT RANCH IS, IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS.

AND, UH, SO TODAY, IF A, IF A HOMEOWNER THAT LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FROM WISEMAN PARK WANTED TO, UM, PULL A PERMIT TO BUILD A POOL IN THEIR BACKYARD, THEY'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

IS THAT TRUE? AND SO I'M NOT COMING AT THIS AS SOMEONE WHO LIKES POOLS OR DOESN'T LIKE POOLS, BUT TO ME, I, I HAVE A TR I HAVE TROUBLE WITH, UM, SORT OF IT JUST BEING UNFAIR.

WHY CAN SOME GET IT AND SOME CAN'T? AND, UH, AND SO I THINK THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO BAN SWIMMING POOLS, WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT THROUGH A BAN ON SWIMMING POOLS.

BUT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT, I, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE SHOULD TREAT THE HOMEOWNERS THE SAME AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S ZONED SIMILARLY.

AND SO I'LL SUPPORT IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, 20 YEARS AGO, THIS COUNCIL CHAMBER OUT TO THE HALLWAY WAS PACKED FULL OF PEOPLE THAT WERE OPPOSING THE SUBDIVISION IN ITS ENTIRETY.

AND THE COMPROMISE THAT HAS BEEN TA HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS.

AND THIS PROJECT AND THE DEVELOPER IS TO BE COMMENDED.

THEY, UM, I THINK BOTH SIDES ARE HAPPY WITH THE COMPROMISE AND THE PUBLIC'S GONNA TO BE PLEASED WITH THE PARK THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING IN THE OPEN SPACE.

AND I ASKED QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE MEETING ON HOW MANY NEW POOL PERMITS DOES THE CITY ISSUE IN A YEAR.

THE CITY ISSUES APPROXIMATELY 15 SWIMMING POOL, HOT TUB AND SPA PERMITS IN A YEAR.

ON MY OWN STREET, ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET, THERE'S TWO NEW POOLS.

THESE WERE PUT IN BY NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE LIVED IN THEIR HOMES A LONG TIME, WHO ARE NOW GRANDPARENTS WHO ARE AILING, BUT THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA LIVE IN THEIR HOMES AND THEY HAVE GRANDCHILDREN.

SO THEY'RE USING IT FOR NOT ONLY PHYSICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, REASONS, BUT THEY'RE ALSO USING IT FOR THEIR GRANDCHILDREN'S RECREATIONAL, AND THEY'RE USING IT FOR THE THERAPY THAT COMES FROM SWIMMING IN A POOL.

UM, I ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE WILDLIFE, AND I ALSO OPEN AND ASKED ABOUT THE REGULATIONS FOR, UM, POOL AND SPA COVERS.

AND SO THERE ANSWERS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER COUNCIL QUESTIONS.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

UM, THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT, BECAUSE, UH, YES, I BELIEVE IN PARKS AND I THINK THAT POOLS ARE MORE THAN JUST RECREATION.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

YEAH, I THINK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT HIT ON SORT OF THE CORE ISSUE THAT THAT'S LIKE SETTLED THIS FOR ME AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THAT'S THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS THAT WENT THROUGH, UH, HERE WE ARE IN 28 HOMES DON'T HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS THAT THE HOMES

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THAT LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO 'EM HAVE.

AND I THINK THAT IF, IF THERE IS, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA BE PROHIBITING SWIMMING POOLS, WE NEED TO TAKE IT UP AT A LARGER SCALE AND NOT, YOU KNOW, UM, IMPUGN, UH, THESE 28, UM, PROPERTIES.

UM, ASIDE FROM, UH, ASIDE FROM THAT, I, I, UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE COMMENT ABOUT THE MANIPULATION OF THE PROCESS TOO, BECAUSE, UM, BRINGING FORWARD AND, AND STAFF PROMOTING A POLICY THAT, UH, DOESN'T ALLOW SWIMMING POOLS, WE CAN DENY IT HERE TODAY AND WE CAN UPHOLD THAT PROCESS.

UM, AND, UH, WE'RE SAYING, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD POLICY TO SET AND A GOOD PRECEDENT TO SET.

UM, AND SO, UM, AS WE THINK ABOUT LIKE, WHAT OUR JOB IS, IS TO SET THE RIGHT POLICY IN PLACE AND TO TREAT EVERYBODY FAIRLY IN THIS CITY.

AND SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT FOR, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, THAT, UH, SIMPLE REASON.

UM, I THINK IT'S ALSO, THERE'S BEEN SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND JUST FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING ONLINE, THE EIR DIDN'T TALK AT ALL ABOUT POOLS, THE EIR BY, UM, THERE WAS NO TALK ABOUT POOLS OR REMOVING POOLS FROM THE PROJECT.

DURING THE EIR PROCESS.

THE EIR ASSUMED THAT POOLS WOULD BE ALLOWED.

SO IT'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL MITIGATION MEASURE TO NOT HAVE POOLS.

UM, ALL THAT CAME AFTER THE EIR WAS DONE.

SO, UM, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, IT, IT TRULY IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD, YOU KNOW, IF IF IT WASN'T A DEVELOPER HERE AND THERE WAS THREE FAMILIES THAT WERE OUT THERE WHO WANTED TO PUT POOLS IN AND THERE WAS KIDS THERE, WOULD WE TELL 'EM NO? UM, OR, YOU KNOW, SENIOR CITIZENS THAT WANTED TO PUT ON A LAP POOL OR SOMEONE WHO JUST WANTS A HOT TUB, YOU CAN'T EVEN INSTALL A HOT TUB.

I THINK IF IT WAS RESIDENTS WE WERE LOOKING AT AND NOT THE DEVELOPERS ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT, WE WOULD, THE ANSWER WOULD BE OVERWHELMINGLY YES.

IT'S SILLY THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A HOT TUB IN YOUR BACKYARD, SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING IT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CATER THOMPSON.

UM, I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF HOMES AROUND THESE NEW HOMES, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A BLANK SLATE.

I MEAN, YOU'RE FORGETTING TO LOOK AT THE HOMES THAT ARE THERE AND HOW MANY SWIMMING POOLS ARE THERE.

AND I APPRECIATE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT.

UM, DO WE WANNA DO A BAN ON SWIMMING POOLS? WELL, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, THEN GET TWO PEOPLE TO SIGN AND WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE I WANNA GO.

I DO NOT WANT TO BAN, UM, FOR SOME AREAS AND ALLOW FOR OTHER AREAS IN OUR TOWN.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, I DO, I DO WANT TO THANK, UH, SUSAN KIRK FOR CALLING IN AND, UH, MENTION THE MOUNTAIN LIONS.

UM, THAT'S A RENOWNED AREA FOR MOUNTAIN LIONS SPOTTING, THOUGH ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN VICTORIA, UH, NO TO, UH, KEEP THEIR SMALL ANIMALS IN AND THINGS 'CAUSE IT IS KNOWN FOR MOUNTAIN LIONS.

UH, I, ON THE PROJECT, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT NO PARTY CAN GIVE US THE DOCUMENTATION FOR HOW THAT, UH, UM, CONDITION GOT INTO THE DOCUMENTS.

UH, YOU KNOW, NOT PLANNING, NOT THE DEVELOPER, NOT THOSE WHO DON'T WANT THEM.

I MEAN, LIKE, THAT'S KIND OF A UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE NOBODY HAS THE SMOKING GUN ON WHY, UM, A SPECIFIC THING OCCURS.

AND IT GIVES ME PAUSE THAT IT'S NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING JUST, UH, PUT ON THE TABLE AT IN THE MOMENT.

UM, I, I, UH, PULLED BACK UP THE PRESENTATION SCREEN THAT SHOWS WHERE THE HOUSING IS AND, UM, THE PARK BORDERS A ROAD WHICH THEN BORDERS THE DRIVEWAYS, WHICH THEN BORDERS THE HOUSES, AND THEN THE POOLS NEXT TO THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE WINDSOR.

SO, UM, I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE A, UH, ANY ACCESS TO THE POOLS IS, UH, QUITE A URBAN DISTANCE FROM THE PARK.

AND SO I, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE PARK, UH, IS, IS, UM, IS RIGHT ON TOP OF THESE POOLS AS IF IT WOULD BE BACK FENCED TO PARK.

SO, UM, I FEEL, UM, CONFIDENT IN THAT REGARD.

AND I REALLY LIKE SEEING, UH, IN THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, ARE THE POOLS COVERED? YOU KNOW, AND ARE THE POOLS WELL FENCED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT ALL PERSUADES ME THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD THOUGHT WAS GIVEN TO THIS.

UM, ALSO, I REALLY LIKED THE WHEELER NUMBERS ARE STILL ACCURATE.

UH, THE WATER EFFICIENCY LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE NUMBERS, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON OUR WATER CONSUMPTION.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, FIRST PERCEPTION IS POOL'S A BIG WATER HOG, AND YET THE WHEELER NUMBERS SHOW THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE.

UM, AND, UM, SO, UM, WITH THAT I'LL BE, UM, SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT.

SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNERS CAN ALWAYS GO AND APPLY FOR A POOL, UM, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT BANNED.

AND, UH, BUT IF WE WANNA MAKE THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE IN PETALUMA, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO GRANT THIS TO A DEVELOPER TO THEN GO AHEAD AND SELL HOMES FOR MORE, JUST FOR THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MAYBE NEW HOMEOWNERS DON'T

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WANNA POOL, MAYBE THEY DO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO, THEY CAN GO APPLY FOR ONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'RE WORKING ON OUR PERMITTING PROCESS RIGHT NOW TO STREAMLINE THAT, MAKE IT MORE EASY.

UM, AND IT SHOULD BE EASY.

AND SO IF PEOPLE DO WANT THEM, THEY CAN GO GET IT.

BUT, UM, OTHERWISE THIS, THIS IS REALLY JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL HOMES FOR MORE MONEY AND THAT'S NOT MAKING THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE IN PETALUMA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I ACTUALLY, UM, SEE SORT OF THE OPPOSITE.

I, I FEEL THAT IF, UM, IF SOMEONE MOVED INTO THE HOME AND THEN HAD AN ORDINANCE THAT SAID YOU CAN'T BUILD A POOL, THEY WOULDN'T COME IN AS A ONE, THEY WOULD KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET THROUGH PLANNING AND HOW HARD IT IS TO GET A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL.

WHEREAS FOR AN AGGREGATE, I THINK IT'S MORE EFFICIENT AND I, AND I I THINK IT'S MORE EGALITARIAN TO HAVE IT FOR, UM, ALL.

SO, UM, YEAH, BUT NOBODY'S ASKING FOR A BAN THOUGH.

IT IS IN THERE THAT THEY CAN'T, WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE ACTION TONIGHT IS THAT THEY CAN, SO I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD OUR SAY ON THIS.

SO, UM, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION ON THIS? I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE MOTIONED AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW FOR A SECOND AND THE CITY CLERK FOR A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

THANK YOU.

BARNACLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON? YES.

DI CARLY? NO.

NOW YES.

QUINT.

YES.

SCH SHRIMPS, NO.

MCDONALD? YES.

AND MOTION CARRIES WITH TWO NO VOTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION STAFF AND, AND, UM, FIRM.

AND, UH, WE MOVE TO ITEM SIX, WHICH IS

[6. Receive, Review, and Adopt a Resolution Approving the FY25-26 Annual Military Equipment Use Report Pursuant to Chapter 8.03 of the Petaluma Municipal Code and California Government Code §§7070-7075 (AB481), which also Approves the Continued use of Petaluma Police Department Policy 709, Military Equipment Funding, Acquisition, and Use, and Policy 613, Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS) and Unmanned Ground Vehicles (UGV), as required by Assembly Bill 481.]

TO RECEIVE, REVIEW AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING FISCAL YEAR 25 26 ANNUAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 8.03 OF THE PETALUMA MUNICIPAL CODE AND THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, 70 70 70 75.

UH, THAT'S AB 4 81, WHICH ALSO APPROVES THE CONTINUED USE OF PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY 7 0 9 MILITARY EQUIPMENT FUNDING ACQUISITION, AND USE ALSO POLICY 6 1 3 UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS AND UNMANNED GROUND VEHICLES, ALL REQUIRED BY ASSEMBLY BILL 4 81.

AND TO HELP US WITH US TONIGHT, WE HAVE, UM, OUR LIEUTENANT GARRETT GANO AND APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

TAKE IT AWAY.

GREAT, THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

C COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND CITY STAFF.

THIS EVENING'S PRESENTATION IS INTENDED TO BE A REVIEW OF THE FISCAL YEAR 26 MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE REPORT WHILE SEEKING RENEWAL OF THE RELATED ORDINANCE AND DEPARTMENT POLICIES.

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IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021, THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE PASSED AB 41.

THE BILL WAS AN EFFORT TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND OVERSIGHT ON THE ACQUISITION AND USE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

THE BILL ALSO SOUGHT TO PROVIDE SAFEGUARD TO SAFEGUARDS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC'S WELFARE, SAFETY, CIVIL RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES.

DUE TO THE MISUSE OF EQUIP OF THIS EQUIPMENT.

AMONG THE BILL'S REQUIREMENTS WAS A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE GOVERNING BODY, WHICH IS TO INCLUDE HOW THE EQUIPMENT WAS USED, THE USE, MAINTENANCE, STORAGE, AND TRAINING COSTS, INFORMATION ABOUT POLICY VIOLATIONS AND RELATED EQUIPMENT, AND THE INTENTION TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT IN THE COMING YEAR.

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THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO DISPLAYING HOSTING COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PROVIDING INFORMATION REGARDING ITS USE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

IN ADDITION TO TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION ON JUNE 24TH, THIS REPORT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND ON JULY 15TH, THE DEPARTMENT HELD THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT DISPLAY EVENT.

THE COMMUNITY IS ALSO INVITED TO JOIN US, UH, TOMORROW, TOMORROW EVENING.

AT THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED PENWOOD NIGHT OUT OUT WHERE SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT WILL BE ON DISPLAY.

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THE DEPARTMENT HAS ESTABLISHED A WEBPAGE LOCATED ON THE DEPARTMENT'S WEBSITE IN THE TRANSPARENCY PORTAL SECTION TITLED SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT.

THE PAGE DISCUSSES AB 41 AND THE QUALIFYING EQUIPMENT CONTAINS HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE PROCEEDINGS.

SINCE THE ADOPTION OF AB 41 AND THE ANNUAL REPORT, THE DEPARTMENT HAS A DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WISH TO PROVIDE COMMENTS, CONCERNS, AND COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT'S USE OF THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

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IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THE PETLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT ONLY POSSESSES TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WERE DESIGNED FOR AND, AND OBTAINED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

THOSE ARE THE TWO ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIERS.

WHILE THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT OFTEN CALLED UPON TO USE MUCH OF THIS EQUIPMENT, OUR DUTY AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IS TO ENSURE OUR OFFICERS ARE PROPERLY TRAINED AND EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH THE DANGERS THEY AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY FACE.

AND OUR COUNTRY'S TRAGIC HISTORY WITH CRITICAL INCIDENTS PROVIDES A WINDOW INTO THE POTENTIAL COMPLEX TACTICAL PROBLEMS OFFICERS MAY ONE DAY BE CONFRONTED WITH.

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SO WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ONLY USE THIS EQUIPMENT WHEN NECESSARY, WE BELIEVE THE EQUIPMENT WE POSSESS IN THE RELATED TRAINING IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR PREPAREDNESS.

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THE EQUIPMENT USED MOST BY THE DEPARTMENT IN FISCAL YEAR 26 WAS OUR UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS ARE DRONES.

THE DEPARTMENT'S DRONE TEAM CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF FOUR OFFICERS AND A SERGEANT, ALL OF WHOM POSSESS A FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, PART 1 0 7 REMOTE PILOT CERTIFICATE.

THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY OWNS EIGHT DRONES.

THE TWO MODELS ON THE LEFT ARE COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE.

THE DRONE ON THE RIGHT IS A PURPOSE-BUILT TACTICAL INDOOR DRONE IS NOT COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE.

ALL THESE DRONES ARE RELATIVELY SMALL, WEIGHING LESS THAN FIVE POUNDS, AND NONE OF OUR DRONES ARE WEAPONIZED.

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DURING FISCAL YEAR 26, THE DEPARTMENT DEPLOYED DRONES 45 TIMES.

THE MOST COMMON USAGE WAS TO MAINTAIN A VISUAL PERIMETER AND ENHANCE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS DURING ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS WHERE OFFICERS WERE APPROACHING A SCENE WITH A KNOWN SUSPECT OR ATTEMPTING TO LOCATE SUSPECTS WHO HAD FLED FROM OFFICERS.

AS OUR USE OF THE DRONES HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, WE BELIEVE WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE AN INCREASED NUMBER OF DEPLOYMENTS DUE TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE GREATER PERMISSIBLE USES WITH WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR CURRENT POLICY TO ENFORCEMENT.

AREAS WE'LL BE EXPERIMENTING WITH ARE THE USE OF DRONES FOR BOTH FIREWORKS ENFORCEMENT AND TO COMBAT DANGEROUS DRIVING BEHAVIOR.

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THERE WERE NO POLICY VIOLATIONS FOUND OR COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE DEPLOYMENT OR USE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

AND OTHER THAN THE REPLENISHMENT OF CONSUMABLE EQUIPMENT, THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT SEEKING TO PURCHASE NEW EQUIPMENT.

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THE DEPARTMENT IS ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A FINDING THAT THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT LISTED IN THE POLICY IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE IS NO COST EFFECTIVE, REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT CAN ACHIEVE THE SAME OBJECTIVE OF COMMUNITY AND OFFICER SAFETY.

AND THAT THE PROPOSED MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY WILL SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC'S WELFARE, SAFETY, CIVIL RIGHTS, AND CIVIL LIBERTIES.

THE DEPARTMENT IS SEEKING COUN CITY COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR THE CONTINUED FUNDING, ACQUISITION AND USE OF ALL PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND RELATED POLICIES 7 0 9 AND SIX 13.

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AND WITH THAT, WE'D, WE'D GLADLY ACCEPT ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I, UM, APPRECIATE THE REPORT.

UH, I APPRECIATE, UH, THE LACK OF NEED FOR DEPLOYMENT AND USAGE OF THIS EQUIPMENT.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI? UM, YEAH, UH, AND GENERAL, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND IT IS REALLY GREAT WORK.

UM, AND YOU, UH, SHOW UP EVERY TIME WITH USING COMMUNITY, UH, ORIENTATION ON EVERYTHING.

UM, THE ONE QUESTION THAT DID COME UP FROM A, UM, FROM A CITIZEN, I JUST WANNA, UM, GET A REVIEW OF POSSIBLE, UH, THOUGHTS AND THAT'S A DEAL WITH THE LARGE EQUIPMENT, UH, THE BIG PIECES, UM, UH, 'CAUSE WE'VE HEARD FROM, UH, VARIOUS FOLKS FROM PARKING REFORM THAT OUR PARKING SPACE IS VALUED AT OVER $50,000 BECAUSE IT'S TAKING UP BUILT WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A BUILDING, BUT INSTEAD IT'S A PARKING SPACE.

AND SO THAT'S THE CURRENT VALUE OF A PARKING SPACE VERSUS PARKING VERSUS BUILDING.

AND SO, UH, THESE ARE GONNA BE HOUSED AT OUR NEW FACILITY.

UH, AND I THINK YOU'VE GOT ABOUT FOUR PRETTY LARGE VEHICLES AND TAKING UP A FAIR AMOUNT OF SPACE.

UM, SO IS IT COST EFFECTIVE? IS THE QUESTION, UH, FOR SAFETY THAT WE NEED ALL OF THESE VEHICLES? CAN WE GET BY WITH, UM, ELIMINATING AT LEAST ONE, MAYBE CREATING MORE SPACE FOR OTHER EQUIPMENT THAT WE MIGHT NEED, SUCH AS THE SMALLER DRONES OR, UM, 'CAUSE THERE IS COST TO EVERY VEHICLE MAINTENANCE TRAINING AND SUCH.

SO IS THERE, UM, A VIEWPOINT THAT YEAH, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO HOLD ONTO THESE GIVEN OUR, OUR TIGHTER PARKING THAT WE MAY HAVE DOWN THE ROAD HERE IN THE NEW SPACE? OR CAN WE, UM, ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT DO WE NEED ALL OF IT OR CAN WE GET RID OF THE, ONE OF THE LARGE PIECES? YEAH, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WE'VE, WE'VE ACCUMULATED THIS EQUIPMENT FEELING THAT IS ALL NECESSARY FOR THE MISSION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THE, UH, A KNOWN METRIC AND SAY, YES, IT COSTS THIS MUCH TO PARK THE VEHICLE, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY QUANTIFY AS THE HIDDEN METRIC OF WHAT THAT MAY, UM, WHAT IT, WHAT IT MAY COST A COMMUNITY MEMBER'S LIFE OR AN OFFICER'S LIFE IF WE DON'T IN FACT HAVE IT.

UM, SO I, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS ALL NECESSARY EQUIPMENT, UM, AND IT BALANCES OUT THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, TO PARK THOSE AT THE NEW FACILITY, WHICH I BELIEVE WE'RE ACCOUNTED FOR IN, IN THE DESIGN OF THAT BUILDING.

RIGHT.

SO THE TWO, UH, LARGER ARMORED VEHICLES, THEY, THEY, THEY'RE A VERY DIFFERENT PURPOSE AND, AND ARE, YOU SEE THEM AS A, A ABSOLUTE NEED HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

JUST THOUGHT I'D I GET THAT ANSWER.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT.

YEAH.

UH, JUST REALLY MORE OUTTA CURIOSITY, UH, UM, DID YOU USE DRONES THIS YEAR FOR FIREWORKS, UM, PATROL AND DID YOU FIND IT TO

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BE USEFUL? YEAH, SO WE, UH, THE REPORTING PERIOD FOR THIS REPORT ENDS OBVIOUSLY JUNE 30TH.

SO WE DIDN'T REPORT ON THE DRONE USAGE, BUT WE DID IN FACT USE DRONES OR ATTEMPTED TO USE DRONES FOR FIREWORKS ENFORCEMENT.

I THINK WE HAD, UH, THREE DEPLOYMENTS.

UH, WE DIDN'T REALLY FIND IT EFFECTIVE.

UM, IT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE EXPERIMENTING WITH AND WE, WE ARE TWEAKING THE WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA APPROACH THAT IN THE COMING YEAR.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, COUNCILLOR BARNICLE.

YEAH, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM, DANGEROUS DRIVING AND HOW YOU PLAN TO USE IT FOR THAT? SO IN, UH, IN THINKING ABOUT HOW WE COULD USE THIS TECHNOLOGY TO COMBAT, UH, ISSUES THAT THE COMMUNITY FACES, WE THINK OF SITUATIONS SUCH AS THE INTERSECTIONS OF NORTH, NORTH MCDOWELL, EAST WASHINGTON, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE A HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO ENFORCEMENT THERE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND THE SPEEDS OF THE VEHICLE, UH, HAVING OFFICERS EXIT, UH, THE VARIOUS SPOTS THAT ARE AROUND THAT INTERSECTION.

UM, SO THE THOUGHT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY HAVING A DRONE DRONE UP, UH, WITH AN OFFICER OBSERVER THAT COULD POTENTIALLY SPOT VIOLATIONS, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH OFFICERS THAT ARE IN, IN SPOTS THAT ARE EASILY EASIER TO GET OUT OF, UM, TO POTENTIALLY, UM, STOP VIOLATORS.

SO THAT WOULD BE ONE EXAMPLE OF, UH, POTENTIALLY COMBATING DRIVING DANGEROUS DRIVING BEHAVIOR.

THANK YOU.

UM, I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS.

THANKS VICE MAYOR.

IS THERE ANY COMPARISON BETWEEN, UM, BEFORE DRONES AND WITH DRONES AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE PERFORMANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND EITHER, UM, YOU KNOW, DID IT, DID THEY PREVENT DEATHS? DID THEY FIND, YOU KNOW, WERE WE NOT FINDING PEOPLE BEFORE THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN OR RUNAWAY CARS OR WHATEVER? UM, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY COMPARISON TO REALLY SHOW THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THEM? YEAH, I THINK IT'S ALL, IT WOULD BE ALL ANECDOTALLY.

UM, BUT THERE IS COMPARISONS.

THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE HAD PEOPLE FLEE FROM US.

UM, AND MANY TIMES GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IN WHICH, UH, THE OFFICER LAST SAW THE SUSPECT AND THEY FLED, IT CAN BECOME VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE, UH, AN OFFICER ON FOOT CAN ONLY COVER SO MUCH GROUND, UM, OFFICERS RESPONDING TO THE SCENE IN VEHICLES.

IT TAKES THEM GREATER AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THERE.

UM, SO HAVING THE DRONE, UH, BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY FLY DEPENDING ON WHERE THE DRONE OPERATOR IS, UM, ATTRIBUTES TO BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE THOSE SUSPECTS IN A GREATER, UM, WITH MORE EFFICIENCY.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN TIMES WHEN WE'RE SEARCHING FOR MISSING PERSONS, UM, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACES IN BETWEEN TOWNS.

UM, SO IN BETWEEN, UH, RESIDENCES, UH, LIKE THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL SOME OPEN SPACES NEAR THE FACTORY OUTLETS, UH, WHERE IT'S, IT'S MORE EFFICIENT TO PUT THE DRONE UP AND SEARCH THOSE LARGE AREAS, UM, AS OPPOSED TO SENDING OFFICERS ON FOOT OR MAYBE USING OUR DUAL DUAL PURPOSE OR ELECTRIC BICYCLES TO, TO PUT'EM IN THAT AREA.

SO WE HAVE FOUND THAT THERE ARE GREATER EFFICIENCIES IN USING THE TECHNOLOGY.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S SIMILARITIES TO, UH, WHEN SITUATIONS, WHICH WE WOULD CALL THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S HELICOPTER, WHICH WE DO RELY UPON, UM, FROM TIME TO TIME.

UM, BUT THOSE EFFICIENCIES ARE, ARE VETTED OUT IN BOTH CIRCUMSTANCES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT WAS, UM, MY QUESTIONS ARE, DOES OUR HELICOPTER POLICY CROSSOVER WITH OUR DRONE POLICY AND, AND, UH, REDUCE OUR HELICOPTER USE NOW? AND I, I BELIEVE SO, YES.

YEAH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, UH, THAT FOR THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT WE HAVE, UM, THE, UH, UH, IT, IT PROVIDES REGIONAL RESPONSE, CORRECT? I MEAN, UM, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UM, WHAT REGION DO WE COVER OR DO WE, WILL WE COVER ALL COUNTY IF WE NEEDED, IF NEED BE? YEAH, SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE REQUEST AND DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF INCIDENT THAT WE'RE RESPONDING TO, IF IT'S A CRITICAL INCIDENT OR EMERGENCY, UM, WE, WE COULD GO ANYWHERE THAT WE CAN GET OUR VEHICLES TO.

WE'VE RESPONDED HISTORICALLY, UH, TO SAN RAFAEL OR UP NORTH, UM, TO SANTA ROSA IN THESO JURISDICTION.

UM, IF IT'S A, UM, IF IT'S LIKE A STATEWIDE EMERGENCY, WE WOULD GET A, UH, A REQUEST THROUGH, UM, UH, ALAMEDA COUNTY IN OUR SHERIFF'S REPRESENTATIVE TO POTENTIALLY DEPLOY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THANK YOU.

BUT YEAH, WIDE RANGING.

APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE.

YEAH, I THINK ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS OR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECALL ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DRONES A FEW YEARS AGO WAS, UM, TRYING TO AVOID CHASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND HAVE WE SEEN THAT ACTUALLY MATERIALIZE TOO, AND THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO, TO AVOID, YOU KNOW, HIGH SPEED CHASES AND SORT OF INTENSE INCIDENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

OUR, OUR CURRENT DRONE TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR US TO CHASE OR FOLLOW VEHICLES, UH, GIVEN THE RANGE AND SIZE OF THE DRONES.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, WITH, UH, THAT, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MATTER, AND I'LL INVITE OUR CLERK TO TAKE OVER HERE.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT AHEAD OF THE MEETING, AND THAT'S BEEN POSTED ONLINE, UM, AT THIS, UM, WE HAVE 14 PARTICIPANTS

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ONLINE AT THIS TIME.

I'LL START A 32ND CLOCK.

AND, UH, DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, THANK YOU.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK.

UH, MEMBERS ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND.

THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND.

SPEAKER REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED.

SO WE HAVE TWO IN-PERSON CARDS.

ANY, UM, NO ZOOM.

SO NINA ZITA WOULD BE OUR FIRST SPEAKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOHN HANANIA.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNSEL.

PETALUMA PD STAFFERS, EVERYBODY ELSE.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER FEEL WITH THIS WHOLE DRONE THING THAT WE'RE, UH, LETTING THE CAMEL'S NOSE INTO THE TENT AND WE'RE GOING DOWN A DIRECTION WHICH WE, I'M, I'M HEARING SOME VERY INNOVATIVE IDEAS FOR, UM, MAKING OPTIMUM USE OF, OF, UH, STAFF TIME, BUT I'M NOT SURE TRAFFIC CITATIONS ARE THE APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS.

DID I MISUNDERSTAND? IS THAT A DIRECTION TO TRAVEL? I HOPE I'M MISTAKEN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, TO BE FOLLOWED BY JOHN HANIA.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, IN RESPOND TO MR. SHRI IS A QUESTION.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH SPACE IS GONNA TAKE.

WHAT MATTERS IS THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY, THE SAFETY OF MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THE SAFETY OF POLICE OFFICERS.

NOW, I'LL REMIND YOU OF THREE THINGS.

THE BANK ROBBERY IN LA WHERE THEY WERE OUT POWERED OUTGUNNED, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY CHANGED THE RULES TO HOW MUCH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN HAVE IN FIREARM.

SECOND THING, THE TANK THAT WAS STOLEN IN LA AND NOBODY COULD STOP IT.

THE ONLY REASON WE'RE ABLE TO STOP IT IS WHEN HE WENT OVER THE MIDDLE DIVIDE OR ON A FREEWAY.

THE THIRD THING, WHICH IS I MENTIONED HERE MANY TIMES, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO MENTION IF ANY OF YOU, ANY OF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, GOOGLE KILLDOZER THAT TOOK PLACE IN COLORADO WHERE SOMEBODY WAS VERY UPSET WITH THE CITY, WHERE HE BUILT HIS BULLDOZER LIKE A TANK.

AND KEVIN, I HATE TO TELL YOU THIS, THE FIRST THING HE TOOK OUT THE KEVIN'S HOUSE, THE MAYOR'S HOUSE, OKAY? AND HE FLATTENED OUT THE CITY.

THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO STOP IT.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WITH THE MILITARY SURPLUS, IF YOU CAN OBTAIN SOMETHING BIGGER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE, YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? IF YOU HAVE A DISASTER, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A SOCIETY WE LIVE IN NOW.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA FLIP, WHEN SOMEBODY'S GONNA GO DO SOMETHING CRAZY.

YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT.

YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT HOW MUCH SPACE IS GONNA TAKE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT CLOSES, PUBLIC COMMENTS, BRING IT ON.

BACK UP TO COUNCIL FOR COMMENTS ON, UH, THE ITEM AND COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT.

YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU AGAIN TO OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL VERY FORTUNATE IN PETALUMA THAT WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT SHARES, UH, THE SAME VALUES AS OUR COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD EASILY BE LIVING IN A DIFFERENT STORY, UH, AT AT A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A DIFFERENT PLACE WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DEALING WITH, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS WHO ARE LESS THAN RESPECTFUL TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I FEEL VERY FORTUNATE THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.

WE HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM, UH, TRUSTING OUR, OUR, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THIS EQUIPMENT.

I THINK THEY'VE SHOWN, UH, EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP AND TRAINING AND RESTRAINT AND, UH, THOSE ARE ALL GREAT QUALITIES.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.

UM, THANK YOU.

WELL, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THIS PRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY WERE AT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE A MONTH AGO.

AND I CAN'T THANK OUR PALOMA POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF AND ALL THE OFFICERS FOR THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, THE LEADERSHIP AND THE MENTORING THEY DO TO OUR YOUTH.

WE CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON THAT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I WILL SUPPORT EVERYTHING.

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS TO THIS SIGN? COUNCILLOR BARNACLE? YEAH.

UM, ONE OF, I'M JUST GOING TO JUST SORT OF RIFF ONE OF MY CONCERNS WITH US, LIKE TRYING TO CRACK DOWN ON ILLEGAL E-BIKE USAGE, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUTH, IS JUST SORT OF LIKE THE URGE TO LIKE FLEE.

AND SO, UM, THE POTENTIAL TO LIKE LOOK AROUND HIGH SCHOOLS WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS STUFF IS HAPPENING AND TRYING TO INTERCEPT IT RATHER THAN CHASE IT, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN MOSTLY BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

AND ALSO, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, A POLICE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING A, A 13-YEAR-OLD WITHOUT A HELMET ON AND THINKING THAT THAT'S GONNA END WELL.

SO, UM, THAT'S ONE, ONE USE CASE THAT I THINK, UM, POTENTIALLY COULD HELP US TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, ENFORCE SOME OF THE ADDRESS, SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES WE'RE DEALING WITH WITHOUT HAVING TO, UM, CREATE MORE SAFETY HAZARDS.

SO THAT'S IT.

UH, IF I CAN COMMENT BACK ON THAT REAL QUICKLY.

UM, WE HAVE DISCUSSED UTILIZING DRONES FOR IDENTIFICATION AND DRIVER BEHAVIOR ON, UH, IMMOBILITY.

UM, WHAT IT WOULD DO IS ALLOW US TO NOT PURSUE AND POTENTIALLY IDENTIFY AND FOLLOW UP WITH LATER.

NOW, GIVEN THAT, UM, A LOT OF THE OFFENDERS ARE JUVENILES, UM, IDENTIFICATION CAN BECOME MORE DIFFICULT, UM, JUST BY VIRTUE OF THEY DON'T HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSE, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, REGULAR, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

BUT, UM, WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED WHAT, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE THERE.

UM, AND AS LIEUTENANT LAVIANO SAID, WE'RE EVALUATING THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE DRONES IN THESE DIFFERENT USE MODELS.

UM, SO STAY TUNED.

UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT WE DO PLAN TO, UH, EVALUATE.

THANK YOU.

UM, APOLOGIZE, UH, APOLOGIES FOR NOT INTRODUCING THE ASSISTANT CHIEF MCGOWAN AND NOW, UH, CHIEF MILLER TO THE PODIUM.

YEAH, AND, AND JUST BRIEFLY BEFORE WE, WE GET OFF THAT, AND I WANTED TO INTERJECT, BUT NOT ACTUALLY ON MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

UM, BUT WITH SCHOOLS STARTING NEXT WEEK, WE, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS.

WE'LL BE OUT IN THE SCHOOL ZONES, AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, UM, THAN OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT, BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THE ADMINISTRATORS ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING BIKE CORRAL AUDITS.

AND SO THIS IS KIND OF MORE OF A SHAMELESS PLUG ON IF YOU HAVE AN ILLEGAL E MOTORCYCLE, DON'T BRING IT TO SCHOOL.

OR IF YOU'RE A PARENT OF A YOUTH WITH AN POTENTIALLY PROHIBITED E MOTORCYCLE, UH, KEEP IT IN THE GARAGE OR GIVE IT TO AN ADULT WHO CAN LEGALLY RIDE IT.

UH, WE'LL BE TRYING TO EDUCATE THE SCHOOL STAFF AND THE EDUCATORS AND THE SCHOOL, UM, CAMPUS SECURITY OFFICERS ON WHAT IS PERMISSIBLE.

UH, TO EXACTLY YOUR POINT, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A YOUTH RIDER MAKE A LIFE ALTERING DECISION.

AND WE'VE BEEN IN THOSE, THOSE KIND OF MOMENTS WHERE WE RECENTLY HAD A, A 12-YEAR-OLD THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW WAS A, A JUVENILE FLEE FROM AN OFFICER.

UM, AND WE LATER FOUND THEY WERE ON A DIRT BIKE OR A GAS POWERED MOTORCYCLE, WENT DOWN, LAKEVILLE THE WRONG DIRECTION, UM, AND ENDED UP BEING A 12-YEAR-OLD.

UM, HAD NO BUSINESS BEING ON THAT, THAT WAS 4TH OF JULY, UM, AND THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY IN TRAFFIC.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES WE WANT TO AVOID.

SO WE'RE LOOKING THOUGH FOR THOSE ALTERNATIVES, LIKE THE DEPUTY CHIEF TALKED ABOUT, WE'LL, WHAT EVALUATIVE DRONES CAN BE IN THERE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THOSE WAYS TO NOT EVEN PUT BE, UH, PUTTING THE JUVENILE IN THAT SITUATION OR PUT HERSELF IN THAT SITUATION.

SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

COUNCILLOR DI CARLY, UH, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN USING DRONES FOR, UM, BASICALLY MONITORING TRAFFIC AT INTERSECTIONS OR TOUGHER SPOTS FOR, FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO REACH? I MEAN, IS IS THAT GONNA BE, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SELECTING CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS OR AREAS AND JUST POSTING DRONES THERE FOR FULL SHIFTS OR HOWEVER LONG? NO, IT'D BE, UH, MORE OF A TARGETED OPERATION WHERE OUR DRONE OR OUR TRAFFIC TEAM, WHERE THEY GO OUT AND DO OTS ENFORCEMENT OR OFFICER OFFICER TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ENFORCEMENT OPERATION DAYS OR HOURS, UH, WOULD BE MORE ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO IT WOULD BE A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME OFFICERS WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULDN'T JUST BE STRICTLY JUST MONITORING OR SURVEILLING.

IT'D BE A TARGETED ENFORCEMENT OPERATION.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

BECAUSE I CAN, I CAN APPRECIATE USING DRONES IN, IN, YOU KNOW, SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN EYE IN THE SKY SORT OF A THING, AND SO OFFICERS DON'T GET HURT OR OTHER PEOPLE.

UM, BUT I KINDA WONDER IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THIS SLIPPERY SLOPE OF KIND OF CROSSING A LINE IN SURVEILLANCE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, USING IT TO EITHER MONITOR TRAFFIC OR CHASE DOWN CHILDREN.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY LIKE THAT.

AND SO I, I THINK WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL IN, IN HOW WE USE THEM AND WHAT WE DO WITH IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I SUPPORT, I SUPPORT WHAT

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YOU GUYS DO AND ALL THIS, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DO YOUR BEST EVERY DAY.

I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE US, UH, START TO CROSS A LINE ON AGAIN, WHAT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE HERE.

THANK YOU.

UH, AND, UM, FROM MY PART, I, I, I WANT TO SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SPEAKER WHO MENTIONED, UH, BEING OUT, UM, OUTGUNNED, I GUESS OUT, OUT, OUT, UH, HAVING THE, NOT HAVING THE EQUIPMENT NEEDED AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AND I'D RECOMMEND THE, UH, UM, BOOK NORCO, UH, WHICH IT DOCUMENTS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CASE ONE, PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IN CALIFORNIA WHERE, UH, THAT OCCURRED AND, AND WAS TRAGIC ON MANY LEVELS, BUT IT'S A COMPELLING READ.

UM, AND THEN, UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, LIEUTENANTS, UM, UM, TAKE ON THIS EQUIPMENT IS THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT IS NECESSARY.

EQUIPMENT.

THIS IS, THIS IS NOT EQUIPMENT THAT WE ARGUE OVER THE COST OF PARKING ON.

IT'S THAT, THAT WHEN THE DAY COMES, WE NEED THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT.

AND, UM, I DO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE STATE OF POLICING IS, WHAT IT BOTH IS IN PETALUMA AND, AND IN, UH, OTHER AREAS AND WHERE THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY IS LEADING POLICING TO GO.

AND, UM, SOME OF IT, UH, IS, IS REALLY BENEFICIAL, UH, UH, PREVENTING, UH, PREVENTING HARM AND OTHERS OF IT, UH, DELVES INTO CERTAIN PRIVACY ISSUES THAT NEED, UH, CONSIDERATIONS.

UM, READING UP ON SOME OF THIS, I, I, I UNDERSTAND SOME DRONES ARE, HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GET, UH, TELE CELL PHONE, TELEPHONE, UH, FINGERPRINT.

AND YOU, UM, THEN CAN, THE DRONE CAN FOLLOW AND THERE'S NO CHASE AND, BUT THE PHONE IS THEN THE PEDESTRIAN, THE THE ON FOOT PERSON AND, AND STILL THE POLICING IS SOLVED.

BUT BEFORE WE MOVE IN ANY AREA LIKE THAT, UM, I, I REALLY WANT THE PUBLIC CONSIDERATION.

SO I'M HAPPY WE HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT AND WE BRING ALL THIS TOGETHER FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN ON POLICY AT, AT THE, AND WE, WE SHOULD DO MORE ANNUAL REPORTS ON MORE POLICY DECISIONS, BUT, BUT IT REALLY BRINGS IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND, AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT.

AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY NOW AND A SECOND FROM, I'LL SECOND THAT CATER THOMPSON.

AND WITH THAT, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE ARLE.

AYE.

CATER THOMPSON.

YES TO CARLY? YES.

NOW YES.

QUINT, YES.

RES YES.

MCDONALD.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS IN THE EVENING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

AND, UM, AS AS NOTED EARLIER, WE ARE CLOSING TONIGHT'S MEETING IN HONOR OF CATHERINE ROBOWSKI.

GOOD EVENING.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.