* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. RECORDING IN [00:00:01] PROGRESS. GOOD AFTERNOON [CALL TO ORDER] EVERYONE. UH, WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026. THE CURRENT TIME IS 3 32. UH, MELANIE, WILL YOU TAKE ROLL CALL PLEASE? ELLI? HERE, SANCHEZ? HERE. HILT? HERE. GENTA? HERE. SHAND HERE. MCKEE HERE. FISHMAN IS ABSENT. WE HAVE A CORA. THANK YOU. UH, WE'D LIKE TO DO THE THREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE INTRODUCTIONS. SO WE WANNA JUST START AT ONE END, JUST INTRODUCE OURSELVES. MM-HMM . SURE. UH, MY NAME'S KEITH HILT. I'M A LIAISON FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. MY NAME'S ERIC MCKEE, AND I'M A TECH MEMBER AND, UH, A NATURAL RESOURCES PROFESSIONAL. I'M DIANE GENTILLY. I'VE BEEN ON THE TREE COMMITTEE FOR, THIS IS MY SECOND SORT OF TERM THING. ? MM-HMM . I'M STEPHANIE SANCHEZ, AND THIS IS ALSO MY SECOND TERM. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, UM, HAVING SOME INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY IS SOMETHING THAT I, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT I, UM, I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE KNOWLEDGE OF EACH OTHER BY A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTENSIVE, UM, INTRODUCTION. SO AT SOME POINT IT'D BE GREAT IF THAT COULD HAPPEN, BUT I'M, UH, TAUGHT AT TAUGHT COLLEGE LEVEL MY ENTIRE LIFE AND THEN MOVED TO PETALUMA, UH, 20 YEARS AGO AND STARTED GETTING KIND OF MORE GRASSROOT ACTIVIST OVER, UH, TREELESS AREA, TREE DESERT. AND SO FROM THERE, JOIN RELIEF. AND SO, UM, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE AND I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE, THAT THE NEW FOLKS ARE HERE. IT'S REALLY GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, MARY ANN BERTELLI. I AM THE LIAISON FROM THE PARKS, UH, RECREATION AND MUSIC COMMISSION, AND, UH, HAVE A 30 YEAR BACKGROUND WITH THE RECREATION PARKS DEPARTMENT AND PARKS MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE. UM, AND MOVED TO PETALUMA ABOUT EIGHT, NINE YEARS AGO NOW FROM SAN FRANCISCO, SO THAT'D BE CLOSER TO FAMILY. AND GREW UP COMING UP HERE EVER SINCE I WAS LIKE FIVE, SIX YEARS OLD, WE HAD A PLACE IN VALLEY FORD, SO WE WOULD COME UP THIS WAY ALL THE TIME. WE SPENT OUR, ALL OF OUR SUMMERS UP UP HERE AND DO OUR SHOPPING IN PENAL THE MONTH. GO TO THE TALL TOED MUSIC STORE, UH, PICK UP THE STRINGS FROM MY GUITAR. UM, SO ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO USE MY BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE TO TRY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PLACE THAT I LIVE IN. THANK YOU . UH, I'M PATRICK SHAND. I'M THE ACTING CHAIR RIGHT NOW. UH, I HAVE A 20 YEAR BACKGROUND IN TREE CARE. I'M A CERTIFIED ARBORIST AND TRACK QUALIFIED. OKAY. UM, WE'D LIKE TO MOVE ON [PRESENTATIONS] TO THE COFFEE FIELD LANE PAVING PROJECT, PUBLIC WORKS MANAGER YARN. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TELL ME HOW TO SAY GRUENBERG BERG. THANK YOU, . WE'LL PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND REQUEST FEEDBACK REGARDING THE TREE SPECIES SELECTION. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UH, AS THE CHAIR SAID, MY NAME IS BJORN GREENBERG. I'M A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER AND PROJECT MANAGER IN PUBLIC WORKS, AND I'VE GOT MELANIE HELPING ME OUT WITH, UH, RUNNING THE SLIDES TODAY. UH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OOPS. THERE WE GO. SO I'LL JUST, IT'S A PRETTY QUICK PRESENTATION. I'LL, UM, GIVE YOU HOPEFULLY ENOUGH INFORMATION, UH, TO MAKE, UH, SOME INFORMED RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT. AND, UH, HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON, UM, STREET TREE SELECTION FOR CALL FIELD LANE. I WILL, UH, COME WITH THE, UH, DISCLAIMER THAT I'M NOT A, I'M, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN TREES. I LOVE TREES. NOT A TREE EXPERT, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. UM, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING, UH, TO GETTING SOME OF YOUR EXPERTISE. UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. OH, NO. OKAY. THERE WE GO. UM, SO WE HAVE A PAVING PROJECT COMING UP ON CALL FIELD LANE IN 2027. WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION, UH, NEXT SPRING TO FALL. WE'RE GONNA TRY [00:05:01] TO CONCENTRATE THE MOST IMPACTFUL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, UH, OBVIOUSLY IN THE SUMMER. BUT, UM, THE PROJECT LIMITS ARE FROM PAYAN STREET ALL THE WAY OUT TO GARFIELD DRIVE. UM, SO A REALLY EXCITING OPPORTUNITY HERE, AND I'LL JUST NOTE THAT, UM, WE DO HAVE VARYING DEGREES OF, OF PAVEMENT CONDITION ON CALL FIELD LANE. SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE, UH, IF YOU'RE JUST JUST GIVING YOU SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT ON THE PROJECT, WE'LL HAVE, UM, UH, A LESS INTENSIVE, UH, PAVEMENT REHABILITATION FROM PAY RAN TO SOUTH MCDOWELL, AND THEN FROM SOUTH MCDOWELL OUT TO GARFIELD. THAT'S WHERE THE PAVEMENT CONDITION IS, IS REALLY BAD. AND, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE MORE EXTENSIVE, UH, RECONSTRUCTION THAT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE ROADWAY BASE. GOOD. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AS WITH ALL PAVING PROJECTS, UH, THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, NOT JUST MAKE OUR ROADS SMOOTHER, BUT ALSO MAKE THEM SAFER, MORE ACCESSIBLE. AND INCREASINGLY, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH IS, UH, AS YOU'LL HEAR TONIGHT, IS, UM, IS BEAUTIFY THE STREET AND, UM, LOOK AT WAYS TO ALSO ADDRESS, UH, STORMWATER QUALITY. SO OUR TREE PLANTING OPPORTUNITIES ARE, UH, WE HAVE FOUR LOCATIONS. WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, WE HAVE TWO PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, UH, BOTH AT ST THE INTERSECTIONS WITH ST. FRANCIS DRIVE AND WITH ELI BOULEVARD SOUTH. SO OBVIOUSLY IN BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS WITH ROUNDABOUTS, GOOD OPPORTUNITIES TO INSTALL TREES WITHIN THE, UH, THE INNER DIAMETER OF THE ROUNDABOUTS. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO LINEAR STRETCHES. UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE, IMAGES, UM, UH, AT THE TOP THERE, THAT'S A STRETCH FROM PARK TO CELLA WHERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S NO SIDE STREETS ON EITHER SIDE, SO IT'S JUST LINED WITH, UM, THE STREETS LINED WITH FENCE LINES. AND, UH, SO THERE'S NO, NO NEED TO MAINTAIN ANY SORT OF LEFT TURN ACCESS THERE. UH, GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADD TREES. AND THEN THE SAME CONDITION EXISTS ALONG THE SOUND WALL FROM, UM, ST. FRANCIS UP TO NORTH MCDOWELL. AND, UH, BASED ON, UH, CURRENT AND PROJECTED TRAFFIC VOLUME, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A LANE REDUCTION GOING FROM FOUR TO, FROM TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. UH, SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH MINIMAL IMPACTS TO CONGESTION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CONVERSION OF THOSE ALWAYS STOP INTERSECTIONS TO ROUNDABOUTS TO IMPROVE, UH, TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE CONGESTION IN THOSE, AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS. AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING, UH, THE EXISTING LAYOUT AT THE TOP THERE. IT'S ABOUT 52 FEET FROM CURB TO CURB IN BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS THAT I HIGHLIGHTED, UM, WITH, WITH TWO LANES IN TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, AND THE PROPOSED CONDITION ON THE BOTTOM WHERE WE WOULD BE PHYSICALLY PROTECTING THE BIKE LANES WITH A, UM, SEVEN FOOT WIDE, UH, LANDSCAPE STRIP. AND, AND THEN, UH, YOU'VE GOT THE TWO VEHICLE LANES AS WELL AS A SMALL, UM, STRIPED MEDIAN IN BETWEEN THE TWO TO JUST ALLOW SOME ADDITIONAL ROOM FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO GET THROUGH, UH, IF AND WHEN THEY'RE, UH, THEY ARE NEEDING TO RESPOND IN THE AREA. UH, AND ONE THING I'LL HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WE HAVE AN EXCITING, UH, POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO ACTUALLY INCORPORATE BIOSWALES IN THIS PROJECT, UH, IN THESE, IN THESE LANDSCAPING STRIPS. UM, SO CALTRANS, WHEN THEY WIDENED US 1 0 1 THROUGH THE MARIN SNOW NARROWS PROJECT, THEY NEEDED TO, UM, FIND MITIGATION STORM WATER MITIGATION, UH, SITES. AND, UH, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY CLOSELY WITH THEM AND WITH, UH, THE WATER QUALITY BOARD TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO ACTUALLY INCORPORATE, UH, BIOSWALES IN THIS PROJECT AS A WAY FOR THEM TO, UM, OFFSET THEIR, UM, REDUCTION IN, UM, UH, PERVIOUS SERVICES WITH THE, WITH THE RIN SNOW ARROWS WIDENING PROJECT. SO THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR CALTRANS TO FUND, UM, THESE BIOSWALES AND, UH, AND THEN ALSO THAT WOULD COVER, UM, THEY WOULD COVER THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE AREAS FOR 20 YEARS, UH, INSTALLATION OF, OF LANDSCAPING ASSOCIATED WITH THE SWALES, UH, AS WELL AS THE IRRIGATION. SO, UM, WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THAT WORKS OUT. WE HAVE A, OUR REQUEST INTO THE WATER BOARD TO REVIEW THIS AND, UH, AND THEN CALTRAN AND THEN, SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. UM, WE ARE COMMITTED TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TO TRYING TO BEAUTIFY THE CORRIDOR THROUGH THIS PROJECT. SO, UM, IF, IF THE CALTRANS FUNDING DOESN'T COME THROUGH, WE WILL HAVE TO PIVOT TO A PLAN B. AND, UH, BUT WE'RE STILL HOPEFUL TO, UM, HONOR THE INTENT OF WHAT'S SHOWN HERE AND, AND INCORPORATE SOME, UM, [00:10:01] SOME LANDSCAPING AND STREET TREES IN THOSE, UH, IN THOSE TWO STRIPS THAT ARE PROTECTING THE BIKE LANE FROM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF A NUANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GET INTO THE TREE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'D REALLY LOVE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT TREES YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUT THERE IF THESE ARE BIOSWALES, RIGHT? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME TREES WILL BE BETTER THAN OTHERS, BETTER EQUIPPED THAN OTHERS, TO HANDLE THOSE WET CONDITIONS IN THE WINTER AND SPRING. UM, AND IF THEY'RE NOT BIOSWALES, THEN THAT'S MUCH LESS OF A FACTOR. UM, SO WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF HEAR, UH, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS UNDER BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS. GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, AND I MENTIONED THE TWO ROUNDABOUT OPPORTUNITIES. OUR MOST RECENT ROUNDABOUT, YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T SEE IT THERE BECAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S SUCH A, A YOUNG TREE, BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THE NEW ROUNDABOUT AT, UH, RAINIER AVENUE AND MARIA DRIVE, UH, WE INSTALLED A VALLEY OAK IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROUNDABOUT. SO SOME CRITERIA AND CONSIDERATIONS FOR YOU TO, UM, OR SOME CRITERIA TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THESE TREES, UH, MUCH LESS A FACTOR IF WE HAVE THE CALTRANS FUNDING AVAILABLE. UM, BUT EITHER WAY, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE WILL NEED TO, UM, TAKE, UH, ESPECIALLY THE BIKE LANE, UH, THE BIKE LANES INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE. UM, SO IF WE DO HAVE DECIDUOUS TREES THAT ARE DROPPING A LOT OF LEAVES IN THE FALL, UM, WE WILL HAVE TO, THE CITY WILL LIKELY HAVE TO SWEEP THOSE BIKE LANES. UH, WE DO HAVE A, A MINI SWEEPER FOR PROTECTED BIKE LANES. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH RECOLOGY, SO WE HAVE TO DO IT. OUR HOPE IS THAT IN THE FUTURE, UH, IN A FUTURE CONTRACT WITH RECOLOGY, WE CAN GET THEM TO TAKE ON, UH, THE PROTECTED BIKE LANES. UM, SO THAT'S ONE CONSIDERATION. UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN DISCUSSING THIS PROJECT WITH SOME LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, THEY'VE HIGH, BECAUSE THESE ARE SUCH LONG STRETCHES OF ROADWAY, UH, THEY'VE HIGHLIGHTED, UM, THE POTENTIAL TO USE A COMBINATION OF EVERGREEN AND DECIDUOUS TREES, UH, JUST PROVIDES A LITTLE MORE VISUAL INTEREST IN THE WINTER MONTHS WHEN THE TREES DO DROP ALL THEIR LEAVES. SO SOMETHING TO TO CONSIDER. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, I HIGHLIGHTED THE, UM, THE BIOSWALES, UH, AND, AND THE ABILITY FOR, OR THE TOLERANCE OF, UH, WET CONDITIONS, UH, FOR THE ROOTS OF THESE DIFFERENT TREES. I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE CRITERIA. I'M JUST TRYING TO, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A REALLY NICE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, UM, PROVIDE SOME REALLY ROBUST CANOPY ON A STREET THAT CURRENTLY HAS NONE . UM, BUT I GUESS, UH, ACTUALLY, MELANIE, IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING BACK TO THAT CROSS SECTION, UM, THAT WAS SHOWN, THERE WE GO. UM, JUST THINKING ABOUT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE WIDTH OF THAT CANOPY AT MATURITY, OBVIOUSLY WITH THOSE FENCE LINES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY FREQUENTLY MAINTAIN TREES, UH, THAT ARE OVERHANGING INTO BACKYARDS. BUT, UM, UH, MAYBE THERE'S A, A NICE BALANCE THERE THAT WE CAN STRIKE WHERE WE'VE GOT GOOD CANOPY FOR THE ROADWAY, BUT ALSO WE'RE NOT ENCROACHING INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING TREES, HAVING LIMBS GOING INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS. UM, AND JEN, ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES TO MIND FOR YOU BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER? BJORN, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. I THINK YOU'VE, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF OUTLAYING SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS AND CONDITIONS THAT THE TREES WOULD BE IN. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A SPECIFIC SPECIES FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD? YES. AND FROM THE COMMITTEE. OKAY. YEAH, WE WOULD LOVE SOME SPECIFIC SPECIES THAT YOU WANNA HIGHLIGHT. UM, I KNOW THAT THIS COMMITTEE'S PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO UPDATE THE, UM, THE STREET TREE LIST, SO WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, UNDER, UM, SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, TREES THAT YOU'D LIKE, IF WE DO HAVE BIOSWALES TREES THAT YOU LIKE, IF THEY ARE NOT BIOSWALES, UM, AND, UH, AND MAYBE SOME CONSIDERATION OF THAT, THAT EVERGREEN VERSUS DECIDUOUS, UM, DISCUSSION. SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS. NOT SURE HOW USEFUL IT'LL BE WITH QUESTIONS IF THEY'RE OVERLY TECHNICAL, BUT , THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, BJORN. THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. UM, I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, ON, ON THIS ITEM, NO ONE, UH, OKAY. UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD. YEAH. AND I JUST WANNA ALSO CHECK IN WITH OUR CLERK TO SEE IF WE RECEIVED ANY, UH, [00:15:01] COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THE COPY FIELD THING. OKAY. UH, WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS OVER HERE. YEAH. JUST REAL QUICK, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND, UM, FOR THE GREAT ROAD DESIGN. I REALLY LIKE IT A LOT AND THAT, UH, THAT ROAD NEEDS IT BADLY. UM, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TREES YOU'RE CONSIDERING IN THIS AREA? BECAUSE THAT, AND I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA OF THAT, OR YOUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT'S IDEA OF, UM, YOU KNOW, ALTERNATING THE, UH, EVERGREEN WITH THE DECIDUOUS. I THINK THAT'LL BE GREAT. EVEN FOR WINTER MONTHS, THE DECIDUOUS DROPS ITS LEAVES, SO YOU GET SOME SUN OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN YOU STILL GET COLOR FROM THE EVERGREEN. SO LIKE THAT. BUT DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? DID THE ARCHITECT GIVE YOU SOME IDEA ON HOW MANY TREES WE MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT THERE? I THINK IT WILL DEPEND ON THE SPECIES SELECTION. JUST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT'LL DICTATE THE SPACING. MM-HMM . JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE THOUGH, UM, THAT STRETCH FROM ST. FRANCIS TO MCDOWELL, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 1100 FEET, UM, AVAILABLE, UM, ALONG THAT FULL LENGTH. SO OBVIOUSLY DOUBLE THAT FOR THE NUMBER OF RIGHT. UH, YOU KNOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE TREES WILL BE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. AND THEN, UM, FROM PARK TO CELLA, WE HAVE, UM, PROBABLY ABOUT ANOTHER 600 OR SO FEET. SO IN TOTAL, UM, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? 2200? WELL, ACTUALLY I'LL JUST KEEP IT DIRECTIONAL TO KEEP THE MOUTH EASY. UM, YEAH, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 1700 FEET. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND LAST QUESTION, THE BIOSWALES, WHERE WOULD THEY BE LOCATED EXACTLY? SO THE, THE IDEA, THE IDEA IS THE STORM WA OR THE STORM WATER WOULD, UM, FLOW FROM THE ROADWAY, UM, OUT TOWARDS THE CURBS. OKAY. THERE WOULD BE CURB CUTS IN THAT PLANTING STRIP THAT ALLOW THE STORM WATER TO FLOW IN, UH, TO THE ENTIRE, BASICALLY TO THE ENTIRE LENGTH. I MEAN, THERE ARE AREAS WHERE, SAY WE HAVE A TREE THAT DOES NOT DO WELL IN WET CONDITIONS, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE WATER OUT OF THAT AREA. BUT ULTIMATELY, ALL THE WETTER, ALL THE WATER WILL, UM, FLOW FIRST INTO THAT STRIP. UH, SOME OF THAT WILL, WILL SINK INTO THE MM-HMM . INTO THE GROUND. UH, ANY OVERFLOW WILL THEN, UH, TOP OVER TO THE, UM, TO THE GUTTER PAN. IT'LL FLOW ALONG THE GUTTER PAN UNTIL IT GETS TO AN ACTUAL, TO ANOTHER, UH, SWALE THAT IS, UM, UH, DESIGNED AT THE, BASICALLY THE BACK OF WALK THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE, UM, THAT CAN TAKE ON THE REMAINING STORM WATER. AND THEN FROM THERE IT WILL, UH, GO INTO THE STORMWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM. OKAY. YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH, I ALSO WANTED TO SAY I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS PROJECT COMING THROUGH. IT'S AN AREA THAT NEEDS TREES DESPERATELY, AND I HOPE WE CAN GET A GOOD CANOPY THERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF REGULATIONS ON HOW HIGH OR HOW BIG A TREES YOU, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? UM, NO, I DON'T THINK THAT, I'M NOT SURE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY POWER LINES OUT HERE, SO YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. WE'RE, WE'RE SOMEWHAT UNCONSTRAINED IN THAT REGARD. MM-HMM . UM, OBVIOUSLY THE HIGHER THE TREE, UM, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS TO EVENTUALLY MAYBE ENCROACH ON SOME OF THOSE ADJACENT BACKYARDS. BUT, UM, UH, NO, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE, WE'RE, WE'RE, IT'S, WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD CONDITIONS OUT HERE FOR, UH, I THINK A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITH THE TREE SELECTION. OKAY. SO THE POWER LINES ARE, IS TO REALLY BIG HELP 'CAUSE MOST ALL OUR TREES AND ARE LIMITED BY THAT. BUT ALONG MCDOWELL IT'S REALLY NICE. THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE BEST TREE AREAS. SO IT'LL BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YES. YEAH. EVEN BETTER ACTUALLY. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. YEAH, I, UM, I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT. I'M GLAD IT'S GOING THROUGH. UM, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SOMETIMES VERY TIMID ABOUT OUR SELECTIONS OF TREES AND RESPECT TO CANOPY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY DESPERATELY NEED IS CANOPY. AND I THINK, UM, I'VE SEEN THAT REALLY ALL OVER TOWN, JUST TREES THAT ARE REALLY NEVER GONNA GIVE US ANY THAT ARE BEING PLANTED. AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE THERE, BUT I REALLY FEEL THAT WE SHOULD REALLY GO FOR THE BIGGEST, THE ONES THAT GROW THE BIGGEST FASTEST. AND, UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT POPLARS ARE VERY, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH MORE TALL THAN THEY ARE WIDE. UM, I ALSO LIKE A UNIFORMITY SOMETIMES OF TREES, LIKE INSTEAD OF MIXING [00:20:01] THEM UP. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ME. I THINK IT MIGHT BE KIND OF STATELY TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERGREENS WOULD, WOULD BE, UH, APPROVED, BUT, UM, AND I FEEL THAT I'M JUST ADVOCATING FOR THAT EVERYWHERE. AND EVEN IN MIDTOWN WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TREES ANYWAY, WE'RE JUST NOT GETTING ENOUGH PLANTINGS OF THE KINDS OF TREES THAT ARE GONNA BE REALLY ROBUST AND BIG AND OVERHANG THE STREETS. SO I, I WOULD REALLY HOPE TO SEE SOME NICE LIVE OAKS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT DECIDUOUS AND THEY'RE REALLY BIG AND BEAUTIFUL. AND, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY VOTE AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT SOME OF THE EXPERTS ON TREE SELECTION HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT TOO. BUT VERY, VERY HAPPY THAT THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? HEY, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION AS WELL, AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE, UM, SEEING THIS GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT IN THAT SPACE AS WELL. IT REALLY SORELY NEEDS CANOPY. UM, I COULDN'T PERSONALLY HELP DECIDE WHAT SPECIES WERE IN THERE SITTING IN THIS SEAT FROM LOOKING AT THE MAP. I IMAGINE PROBABLY WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE SOIL CONDITIONS IN THAT SITE, IN EACH OF THE LOCATIONS, PROBABLY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE TREES ARE GONNA BEST SURVIVE OVER THE, UM, THEIR LIFESPAN. SO PROBABLY WANT TO ENSURE THAT SURVIVAL IS ONE OF THE KEY CRITERIA THAT ARE CONSIDERED WHEN SP SELECTING THOSE SPECIES. UM, AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE, I IMAGINE PRETTY SPECIFIC TO THE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN THOSE LOCATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED. UM, DO YOU, UM, JUST CURIOUS, LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES FROM THE CITY NOW THAT, UM, DESCRIBE LIKE PRIORITIES AND, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MIGHT BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR WORK. HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLABORATE WITH, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MIGHT BE ALL HELP YOU DETERMINE THE SPECIES THAT WOULD BEST GROW CANOPY AND MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? UM, YEAH. I MEAN WE, WE'VE HAD, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH, UM, I MEAN WE, WE COLLABORATE FAIRLY FREQUENTLY WITH, UH, WITH DAILY ACTS AND WITH WATER CONSERVATION. UM, UH, BUT YEAH, I MEAN REALLY MY, MY PRIMARY REASON FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT, I KNOW THERE CAN SOMETIMES BE SOME, UM, DISAGREEMENT FROM, UH, DEPENDING ON KIND OF DIFFERENT GROUPS AROUND WHICH, WHICH TREES ARE THE BEST. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOMETIMES COMPETING GOALS BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, SELECTING ONLY NATIVE, FOR EXAMPLE, VERSUS, UH, PRIORITIZING CANOPY. RIGHT. UM, I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A DISCUSSION HERE, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO, UM, THIS WAS FELT AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, COME BEFORE, BEFORE YOUR GROUP AND, AND GET YOUR THOUGHTS. UM, I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO OTHERS AS WELL, BUT WANTED TO HEAR WHAT THIS COMMITTEE THOUGHT, SEE IF THERE ARE ANY STRONG OPINIONS HERE OR STRONG, UM, PREFERENCES. UH, ONE THING I'LL SAY ON THE SOILS, UM, I THINK A LOT OF THAT TOO WILL DEPEND, AGAIN, DEPEND ON THE BIOS, SOIL PIECE. UH, THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF SOIL REPLACEMENT, OBVIOUSLY WITH, OR SOIL, YEAH, SOIL REPLACEMENT, I THINK PROBABLY BE THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. IF WE DO GO TO SWALES, OBVIOUSLY ADOBE CLAY DOES NOT HANDLE STORM WATER VERY WELL. SO, UM, YOU WOULD SEE IN THAT SCENARIO YOU WOULD SEE A LOT OF THE NATIVE SOIL REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH SOMETHING THAT TAKES ON WATER, UM, MORE EFFECTIVELY. UM, IN THE SCENARIO WHERE WE DO NOT HAVE SWALES, IT'S PROBABLY FAIR TO ASSUME IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY NATIVE SOIL THAT WE WOULD BE PLANTING NOW, WELL, WE'LL TO, IN THE SCENARIO WHERE THE SOIL'S BEEN EXCAVATED AND THEN REPLACED WITH NEW SOIL. WE JUST BE CAREFUL, UM, SOMETIMES WHEN THAT CAN CAUSE WORSE DRAINAGE. MM-HMM . UM, JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, BUT, UM, WOULD, UM, I, WHAT WHATEVER, UH, YOU KNOW, IS HELPFUL AT THIS POINT? I THINK THE CRITERIA AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT YOU PRESENTED ARE WONDERFUL, AND I AGREE THAT LIKE AS MUCH SHADE AND CANOPY PROVISION AS POSSIBLE, UM, IS A KEY GOAL OF OUR URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO I WOULD TRY TO ENCOURAGE JUST AS MUCH SHIELDING AS POSSIBLE AND MAXIMUM SORT OF SURVIVAL OF THE TREES. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I LOVE NATIVE TREES, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS FIT IN THEIR URBAN FORESTS, SO WE CAN USE OUR OTHER [00:25:01] EXPERTS WITHIN THE CITY OR THE TREE LIST THAT'S PREVIOUSLY BEEN PASSED, OR RELEAF ALSO HAS A TREE LIST TOO, SO THOSE COULD BE HELPFUL IN THE PROCESS AS WELL. SO, UM, YEAH, MAYBE WE CAN JUST SHARE A FEW OTHER CONSIDERATIONS AND IF IT'S HELPFUL, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, UM, A TOTAL EXPERT IN IT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GO AND VIEW THE SITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WELL. ANOTHER, JUST ANOTHER COMMENT, WHICH IS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP RELIEF AND THAT, HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED TO RELIEF AT ALL THAT ORGANIZATION HERE ABOUT TREE SELECTION? BECAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES TO GO TO BECAUSE I'VE BEEN PRUNING WITH THEM. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE A, A REPRESENTATIVE THAT'S GONNA GIVE US A PRESENTATION ANYWAY HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'VE BEEN PRUNING AROUND DIFFERENT PARKS AND RELIEF HAS PLANTED AN AMAZING VARIETY OF TREES. SO THEY KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT'S GROWING NOW. WELL, YEAH. AND THAT WOULD BE JUST LIKE A ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL RESOURCE. SO, YEAH. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, COULD WE SEE THAT, UH, DIAGRAM AGAIN THAT SHOWS THE, UH, CUT, UH, CROSS VIEW OF, I'M TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF THE WIDTH OF THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THE CANOPY WITHOUT ENCROACHING UPON THE NEIGHBORS. IS IT LIKE 25 FEET, 30 FEET? UH, WHAT WAS IT? IT WAS, UH, SIX PLUS. IT'S ABOUT 15 AND A HALF FEET ON ONE SIDE. UH, YES, 15 AND A HALF. SO THAT'S A 30 FOOT CANOPY TOTAL, BASICALLY. YEAH. SO THEN IT WOULD EXTEND 15 FEET OUT OVER THE ROADWAY AND 15 FEET OVER THE SIDEWALK AND THE BIKE PATH. YES, ROUGHLY. YEAH. SO IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, I THINK THAT'S A VERY CLEAR PARAMETER. IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR TREES WITH A 30 FOOT CANOPY, UM, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UM, HIGHLY PRIORITIZE, UH, NATIVE TREES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TREES PLANTED BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE MOST BENEFICIAL. A, UM, IN NOT CREATING A MONOCULTURE WHERE IF ONE TREE DIES, A WHOLE BUNCH OF TREES DIE, UM, THE, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TREES WILL BE ABLE TO ADAPT TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS. AND YOU'D HAVE MORE OF A, A CHOICE OF A SELECTION OF TREES DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC SOIL AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION OR THE SPECIFIC LIGHT CONDITIONS. UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MOST ORNAMENTAL POSSIBLE TREES THAT WE COULD HAVE, LIKE THINGS THAT HAVE FLOWERS LIKE RED BUDS, UM, ARBITERS, UH, OR THINGS THAT HAVE, UM, COLORFUL LEAVES LIKE GINKGOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE IT AS, UH, ORNAMENTAL AND ATTRACTIVE AS POSSIBLE. UM, TO, UM, ERIC'S POINT ABOUT THE POSSIBLE CONTAINERIZATION OF PLANTING HOLES, I KNOW THAT RED, UH, RELIEF IS PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPT OF TAKING NATIVE SOIL OUT AND PUTTING NEW SOIL IN, AND THEY'RE NOT BEING A GOOD INTERFACE BETWEEN THE, THE TWO DIFFERENT SOIL TYPES. AND THEN THAT CREATES BASICALLY A BUCKET THAT THE TREE ROOTS NEVER GROW OUT OF. SO I'M SURE RELIEF IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF THOSE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT CONDITION DOESN'T OCCUR, UH, WITH THESE TREES. AND I ALSO THINK THAT RELIEF, UM, YOU KNOW, IS VERY, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, VERY, UH, HAS A LOT OF EXPERTISE IN TERMS OF TREE SELECTION AND ALSO WHAT THEY CAN SOURCE, UM, FROM THEIR, UH, VARIOUS, UH, SOURCES WHERE THEY GET THEIR TREES. SO, UM, YEAH, SO THOSE ARE BASICALLY JUST MY, UH, THOUGHTS ABOUT, ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. DID ANYONE ELSE ON THE PANEL HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. I HAVE A FEW. UM, SO MY CONCERN WITH THE BIOSWELLS ARE MOST TREES DON'T LIKE TO STAY WET. SO FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME, THERE ARE VERY FEW TREES THAT ARE WATER WATERBORNE TREES THAT CAN HANDLE MOISTURE FOR EXTENDED PERIODS. YEAH. SO, UM, I, I AM ALL FOR BIOSWALES. I THINK THEY'RE GREAT, GREAT CONCEPT. WE NEED TO KIND OF KEEP 'EM AWAY FROM THE BASIS OF TREES MM-HMM . AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. UH, SHORT TERM TREES WILL THRIVE AND DO TOTALLY WELL FOR THE FIRST 10, 20 YEARS. THEN YOU'LL START TO SEE REAL PROBLEMS. AND MY REAL CONCERN, WHICH I SEE A LOT, ESPECIALLY IN OAKS, BUT MOST TREES, ROOT ROT, UH, THE CANOPY WILL LOOK, EXCUSE ME, LOOK VERY PERFECTLY HEALTHY. I'LL LOOK AT A TREE AND SAY, MAN, THIS IS GREAT, AND I CAN WALK AWAY AND IT CAN FALL OVER THE NEXT DAY. AND THEN YOU GET IN THE ROOT ZONE AND IT'S JUST MUSH. SO THAT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT FROM OVERWATERING [00:30:01] OR TOO FREQUENTLY WATERING. UH, SO IF WE ARE GONNA DO SOMETHING IN THE BIOSWALE, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO AERATE THAT SOIL ON A REGULAR BASIS. UH, THERE ARE SOME METHODS AROUND IT, BUT THEY REQUIRE, UH, MAINTENANCE. SO, UM, IN TERMS OF THE ROUNDABOUTS, I DO LIKE, UH, THE, THE THOUGHT OF A ONE LARGE VALLEY OAK, COAST OAK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S BIG SPRAWLING, BUT IT'S NOT IMPEDING ANYONE'S VIEW. UM, I DO TEND TO LIKE COAST OAKS A LITTLE MORE 'CAUSE YOU CAN PRUNE 'EM ANYTIME OF YEAR. VALLEY OAKS WE'RE KIND OF STUCK TO THESE WINTER MONTHS. UM, SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO COME UP, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD NEED TO REALLY PLAN FOR THAT, UH, PRUNING. WHEREAS AT COAST OAK, SOMETHING HAPPENS. WE WE CAN GO P PRUNE IT ANYTIME. UM, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF MY PRIMARY CONCERNS. UM, I DO THINK ALONG CA FIELD, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE WITH THAT CROSS THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE, MORE ROOM THAN WHAT I'M PICTURING IN MY MIND OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. UM, BUT I'M THINKING MORE, MORE MEDIUM SIZED TREES. THERE ARE, BEAU ARE BEAUTIFUL, BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO MANAGE THAT WATER, WATER INTAKE THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM. UM, THE DOWNSIDE TO OUR BUTS IS THEY CAN BE A LITTLE MESSY. THEY HAVE A FRUIT THERE SO THE SIDEWALKS COULD GET STAINED OR, OR ON PEOPLE'S SHOES, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE PROS AND CONS, DANNY TREE, OF COURSE. BUT, UH, SO YEAH, I DEFINITELY THINK WE SHOULD PUT SOME, SOME TIME AND SOME EFFORT INTO SELECTING THE RIGHT TREES FOR THE RIGHT AREAS. 'CAUSE HOPEFULLY THESE TREES WILL OUTLIVE ALL OF US. SO. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ONE LAST ONE IS LIKE, DO YOU, UM, SO IS THIS INTEGRATED WITH THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN? UM, IS THAT, YEAH, SO THE THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, YOU KNOW, AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL IDENTIFIES, UH, BASICALLY WHERE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSED BIKEWAYS ARE, AND THEN THE TYPE OF BIKEWAY, UH, THAT'S DESI THAT'S RECOMMENDED BASED, TYPICALLY BASED ON THE STREET CHARACTERISTICS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WIDTH, THE TRAFFIC VOLUME. UM, SO WITH A, WITH A ROAD LIKE CALL FIELD, OBVIOUSLY, UM, THAT'S WHERE THE, THE IDEA FOR THESE PROTECTED BIKE LANES, UH, COMES FROM IS JUST MAXIMIZING THAT SEPARATION FROM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON OUR BUSIER ROADS. UM, BUT IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IT AS FAR AS THE, THE A TP IS CONCERNED, IT'S JUST THAT IDENTIFICATION OF BIKE ROUTES BASICALLY. NICE. WELL, I, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, I DON'T, IT'S RELATIVELY NEW, BUT TO INTEGRATE AND TRY TO, UM, REFERENCE THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN IS A GREAT TOOL FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. UM, SO I JUST ENCOURAGE FOLKS, PLANNERS AND STAFF TO, AND PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS TO KIND OF LIKE REVIEW THAT. 'CAUSE IT PROVIDES A LOT OF GUIDELINES ABOUT HOW TO INTEGRATE, UM, AND HOW THESE TYPES OF PLANNING ACTIVITIES WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE. SO JUST TO MAYBE START SEEING HOW THAT WORKS AND EVENTUALLY THE URBAN FORESTER WILL BE ABLE TO REALLY KIND OF BE THAT POINT OF CONTACT FOR YOU, I THINK, AND REALLY APPRECIATE. I THINK THIS IS, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. MM-HMM . REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. YEAH, I AM AS WELL. UH, ONE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING IN NEW SOIL, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S ALL GREAT. IT'LL REALLY HELP THE TREES THRIVE IN THE BEGINNING, BUT EVEN IF WE'RE USING NATURAL, UH, NATIVE SOIL OR BRINGING IN NEW STUFF LONG TERM, ALL THAT SOIL IS GONNA BE COMPACT AGAIN. MM-HMM . UH, YOU KNOW, FOOT TRAFFIC, ROAD TRAFFIC, THINGS LIKE THAT. EVEN GRAVITY IS GONNA COMPACT THAT SOIL. UH, SO AGAIN, THAT, THAT BRINGS INTO THE, THE BIOSWALES OR, OR EVEN NORMAL IRRIGATION. UM, SO WE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY THINK ABOUT SOME SORT OF DRAINAGE OR, OR WAY TO, TO WICK THAT WATER OUT, UM, LONG TERM. YEAH. AND, UH, I AM ALSO, UH, VERY EXCITED. THAT'S, THAT LOOKS WONDERFUL AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GONNA MAKE THE STREET, UH, REALLY LOOK NICE. SO WONDERFUL. YEAH. THANK YOU. I, I AGREE. IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT. I THINK WITH EACH PAVING PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE LEARN SOMETHING NEW, UM, OUR DESIGNS GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UH, AND I THINK WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING A MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION TOWARDS MORE INCORPORATION OF MORE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UM, AND, AND, AND GREENERY AS PART OF OUR PAVING PROJECTS, WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT. THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE PAVED SURFACE IS, IS AN EXCITING ONE. MM-HMM. , , UM, AND, AND CREATE CANOPY ON STREETS LIKE THIS ONE. I MEAN, I THINK ANY OF US COULD GO OUT THERE AND SAY, THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE UGLIEST STREETS IN THE CITY. SO , UM, [00:35:01] UH, I, YEAH, VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET THAT CALTRAN MITIGATION FUNDING TO, TO HELP THIS PROJECT. UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND, UM, WE'LL PASS THIS ALL ALONG, TAKE IT INTO CLOSE CONSIDERATION, UM, REACH OUT TO RELEAF AS WELL, SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UM, LAND ON A, A, A, A GOOD TREE SELECTION THAT WE ALL FEEL GOOD ABOUT. UM, JUST AS FAR AS, UH, NEXT STEPS ARE CONCERNED, UH, THIS PROJECT WILL PROBABLY BE GOING TO COUNCIL FOR AWARD OF THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, EITHER IN LATE 2020, LATE 2026 OR EARLY 27, LIKE I SAID. AND THEN, UH, WE EXPECT IT TO BREAK GROUND NEXT SPRING. SO JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT, IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW THE PROJECT, WE'VE ALSO GOT A WEBPAGE SET UP, UM, WHICH IS CITY OF PETALUMA.ORG/CALL FIELD, ELI. UM, AND THE IDEA THERE IS THAT WE'RE ALSO, WE HAVE SOME WORK ENVISIONED ON, UH, ELI AS WELL, UH, THAT THE TIMING OF THAT IS A LITTLE LESS CERTAIN THAT MAY ACTUALLY END UP GO BEING PUSHED OUT TO 2028, BUT CALL FIELD IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING NEXT YEAR. WHEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A DECISION ON THE TREES BE MADE? UM, PRETTY QUICKLY HERE. UH, WE'RE WE ARE, WE JUST PROVIDED OUR 67, 60 5% COMMENTS BACK TO OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT. WE'VE BEEN BASICALLY HOLDING THEM OFF ON THE LANDSCAPING PIECE, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD TO, UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON CLARITY ON THE, ON THE BIOSWALE, UH, PIECE. SO, UM, I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE NEXT, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, WE'RE HOPING FOR CLARITY FROM CALTRANS AND THE WATER BOARD AND, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO, AT THAT SAME TIME, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE, ON THE STREET TREE SPECIES. SO IS THIS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK OVER FOR THE NEXT MONTH AND DEAL WITH IT ON, MAKE A DECISION ON THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE'RE, UM, IF YOU WANT TO, UH, REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY, UM, I REALIZE THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR YOU TO, TO HAVE REACHED ANY SORT OF CONSENSUS, BUT THAT'S AN OPTION. UM, AND I'M HAP YEAH, IF, IF YOU DO WANT TO, UM, MAKE A DECISION, UH, I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH, WITH JEN TO COME BACK, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE, YOU GUYS WANNA, UM, GO HOME AND DO SOME HOMEWORK ON THIS, THAT'S FINE TOO. YEAH, I THINK IT'S A, UH, LIKE I SAID, A VERY LONG-TERM DECISION. YES, ABSOLUTELY. SOME, SOME THOUGHT SHOULD BE PUT INTO IT. YEAH. OKAY. CAN, ARE THERE MORE SPECIFIC, UM, LIKE GPS COORDINATOR LOCATION FOR SOME OF THOSE PROPOSED PLANTINGS? UH, IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE STRETCH FROM ST. FRANCIS TO SOUTH MCDOWELL. OKAY. UM, AND YOU'D BE ABOUT, UH, WHAT WAS IT? YOU'D BE ABOUT NINE AND A HALF FEET OFF FACE OF CURB FOR WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THE TREE WOULD BE PLANTED. UM, ALMOST MIDDLE, ALMOST MIDDLE OF THAT, YEAH, MIDDLE OF THAT, THAT, YES. COOL. PRETTY MUCH, YEAH. PRETTY MUCH THE MIDDLE OF THE EXISTING OUTSIDE LANE MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN, UH, WHAT DID I, OH, SO YEAH, ST. FRANCIS TO MCDOWELL AND THEN PARK TO ELLA. WE WON'T BE GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE INTERSECTIONS, UM, BECAUSE WE'LL NEED SOME ROOM FOR, LIKE, AT ST. FRANCIS, WE'LL NEED ROOM TO TRANSITION TO THE ROUNDABOUT WITH THE SPLITTER ISLANDS, SO THE TREES WILL STOP SHORT OF THE, THE INTERSECTION. AND THEN LIKEWISE, UP AT MCDOWELL, UH, THE ROAD WILL WIDEN OUT. SO WE HAVE SOME, UH, TURNING LANES, UM, SO YOU WON'T HAVE TREES RIGHT UP TO THE MCDOWELL INTERSECTION, BUT, BUT BASICALLY THAT ENTIRE KIND OF MIDDLE STRETCH, UM, AWAY FROM THE INTERSECTIONS. UM, AND THEN, YEAH, AND THEN I MENTIONED THE TWO, THE TWO ROUNDABOUT LOCATIONS. THE OTHER THING THAT YOU CAN, YOU COULD CONSIDER, I KNOW IT'S, THEY'RE NOT TREES SPECIFICALLY, BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE THAT, UM, AREA ALONG THE SOUND WALL ON THE EASTBOUND SIDE, UH, THAT'S ABOUT SIX FEET WIDE. IT'S JUST KIND OF A, A WEED STRIP RIGHT NOW. UM, AND SO ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY HEDGES THAT YOU LIKE FOR THAT AREA? UM, NOT SURE IF WE'LL HAVE, IF WE'LL HAVE BUDGET FOR THAT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO COME UP WITH A LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THAT AREA. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS THERE. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER AREA THAT, UM, THAT WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN NOTE OF IS KIND OF IN NEED OF SOME, SOME LOVE, UH, IS THE AREA ALONG, UM, THE US 1 0 1 OVERCROSSING. UM, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME PRETTY STEEP HILLSIDES ON EITHER SIDE, UM, THAT COULD MAYBE BENEFIT FROM SOME SORT OF, SOME SORT OF LANDSCAPING TO HELP KIND OF SCREEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND, AND JUST, AND BEAUTIFY THE CORRIDOR A LITTLE BIT. SO, UM, GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL ASSIGNMENTS IF YOU'D LIKE. IS, ARE THE TREE, UH, THE PROJECT IRRIGATION, WOULD IT BE LIKE POTABLE OR RECYCLED? [00:40:01] DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE FOR THAT? AT THIS TIME? WE DO NOT HAVE RECI RECYCLED WATER CONNECTION IN THIS AREA. UM, I THINK WE, THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE AS THE SYSTEM, UM, EXPANDS, EXPANDS. BUT, UH, FOR THE TIME BEING, UH, IF THESE ARE IRRIGATED, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE, UH, POTABLE WATER. IF THEY ARE NOT IRRIGATED, UM, THEN WE'LL HAVE THEM, UM, HAND WATERED AND, AND THERE'S, WE COULD USE RECYCLED WATER FOR THAT. OH, COOL. IT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER PIECE THAT NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED BY, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF DRIVEN BY THE CALTRANS, UH, DECISION. SO I WOULD USE CAUTION WITH RECYCLED WATER. UH, USUALLY HIGHEND BORON AND OTHER THINGS THAT TREES DON'T LIKE. SO AGAIN, LONG TERM YOU WILL SEE LOTS OF TREES DIE FROM THAT, ESPECIALLY, OR IT CAN BE COUNTERACTIVE WITH CERTAIN TREATMENTS AMENDING THE SOIL, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THAT IT'S PRETTY COSTLY. OKAY. UH, ESPECIALLY LONG TERM. UH, SO YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO TRY AND AVOID THAT IF POSSIBLE. GOTCHA. THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON. OUR, OUR, OUR NEW, UH, THE, THE ROUNDABOUT AT RAINIER AND MARIA IS, UH, USING RECYCLED WATER. SO THAT'LL BE SOMETHING TO KEEP AN EYE ON. AGAIN, IT, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE, UH, SOME NUTRITION AND A WAY OF EXTRACTING THAT BORON OUT. THERE'S CERTAIN PRODUCTS YOU CAN GET FOR THAT, BUT THEY ARE, THEY'RE COSTLY AND, AND USUALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE YEARLY, IF NOT MULTI TIMES A YEAR. SO, UM, WELL, THIS MUST HAVE BEEN THE PRODUCT OF A TON OF WORK, ERIC, SO THANK YOU. IT'S LIKE TO GET IT TO THIS POINT. YEAH. IT'S ONGOING. SO YEAH, . UH, BUT YEAH, THANKS AGAIN, REALLY APPRECIATE THE, UM, THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION AND FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE RELIEF PRESENTATION, JEN? YES, WE ARE GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, THE RELAY RELIEF PLANTING FOR PETALUMA CANOPY GRANT RELIEF PROGRAMS MANAGER CAROLYN RA, WILL PRESENT, UH, THE LOCATION AND SPECIES SELECTION FOR THE FALL 2026 CANOPY GRANT TREE PLANTING AND REQUEST FEEDBACK REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION. UH, CAROLYN, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SET? YEAH. WONDERFUL. YES, I AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME, UH, RELIEF THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SPACE PLANTINGS. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE URBAN FOREST AND THE TREES IN PETALUMA. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO START OUT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU ARE NEW TO THE TREE COMMITTEE AND ALSO MAYBE FOR THE PUBLIC WHO'S LISTENING, UM, AND TALK ABOUT HOW THE PLANTINGS AT RELIEF ARE DOING ARE PART, ARE MADE POSSIBLE BY FUNDING FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, USDA FOREST SERVICE, UM, PET, UH, THE CITY OF PETALUMA SOURCED A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING FOR ALL OF THIS TREE PLANTING IS COMING FROM. WE CALL IT THE PETALUMA CANOPY GRANT. UM, OUR TARGET IS 2,168 TREES. UM, WE STARTED PLANTING JANUARY 1ST, 2024, AND THE GRANT WILL END, UH, DECEMBER 31ST, 2028. SO WE HAVE ALREADY PLANTED ABOUT 1700 TREES FOR THIS GRANT. AND FOR THE GRANT, THERE ARE DIFFERENT BUCKETS OF TREES WE HAVE TO PLANT IN. AND THAT HAS INCLUDED PARKS AND SCHOOLS OPEN SPACE. WE HAVE A ING PROGRAM WHERE WE START, WE COLLECT ACORNS AND WE START TREES FROM ACORNS AND SEEDS. UM, WE HAVE OUR RESIDENTIAL TREES, WHICH WE HAVE FINISHED PLANTING ARE 548 OF THEM. AND, UH, STREET TREES AND TREES AND LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS. SO WE HAVE 463 TREES LEFT TO PLANT , UM, BY IN THIS PLANTING SEASON. UM, SO WE WILL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE PLANTINGS WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THERE. NEXT SLIDE. OH, SORRY. YES, HERE IT IS, . OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW I'M BRINGING TO YOU, UM, PLANS THAT COVER 309 TREES. UM, WE'VE GOT ONE PARK AND TWO LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT, UH, PLANTINGS AND THEN, UM, RE OAKING IN OUR O OPEN SPACES. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE WORK WITH THE CITY AS A PARTNER TO FIND LOCATIONS FOR THESE TREE PLANTINGS. UM, SO WE'VE GOT MCDOWELL MEADOWS PARK [00:45:01] ON THE EAST SIDE, 10 TREES, UH, MEADOWVIEW LAD, UH, 21 TREES, STRATFORD LAD, WHICH IS SORT OF BY, UM, LAKEHORN PARK, 14 TREES. AND THEN, UM, ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS ON THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL. AND WE HAVE, UH, A GRAYSTONE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS BEHIND KENNELWORTH JUNIOR HIGH OF 70 SEEDLINGS, UH, SOUTHGATE OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS BETWEEN THE PARK THERE AND SOUTHGATE DEVELOPMENT AND AN AGRICULTURAL AREA. THERE'S AN OPEN SPACE AND THEN WESTRIDGE OPEN SPACE, WHICH YOU GO OUT I STREET. AND IT'S SORT OF, UM, UH, THE OPEN SPACE BEHIND BLACK OAK DRIVE AND LIA STREET. SO, OKAY, OUR FIRST ONE IS MCDOWELL MEADOWS PARK, WHICH WILL BE 10 TREES. UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BIG LEAF MAPLES, A TRIO OF WHITE ALDER, AND, UM, WE HAVE, UM, A VALLEY OAK AND A FEW COASTLINE OAKS AND A WESTERN SYCAMORE. AND SO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS RING THE PARK SO THAT THE INSIDE OF THE PARK CAN STILL BE USED FOR, YOU KNOW, DOG, DOG, UM, BALL THROWING AND KIDS PLAYING GAMES. UM, AND YET WE'LL ATTEMPT TO COOL, YOU KNOW, THE PAVEMENT AND KEEP EVERYBODY A LITTLE COOLER WITH SOME SHADE. AND IT'S AN IRRIGATED LAWN. OUR NEXT ONE IS MEADOW VIEW LAD. UM, THERE IS A STRIP OF LAND BETWEEN THE STREET THERE AND THE SENIOR MOBILE HOME PARK. AND IN THAT AREA THERE'S A LOT OF BUSHY THINGS, BUT NO, LIKE REAL TREES. AND SO WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO DO WITH THIS PLANTING IS TO GET SOME TALLER SHADE TREES IN THERE TO REALLY HELP MITIGATE THE HEAT COMING OFF THE PAVEMENT. AND ALSO HELP THE SENIORS IN THE MOBILE HOME PARK STAY A LITTLE BIT COOLER. AND WHEN I WAS FLYERING THE MOBILE HOME PARK, UM, THEY SEEMED EXCITED ABOUT IT. ? YEAH, SO WE'VE GOT, BECAUSE THERE ARE WIRES ABOVE THERE, WE HAD TO SORT OF CHOOSE TREES THAT WOULD STAY A LITTLE SHORTER. SO WE'VE GOT A MIX OF CHPA AND ALSO, UM, BOX ELDER, A MALE VARIETY BACK BOX ELDER, UM, WHICH WILL STAY SHORT ENOUGH. AND THEN AT THE END ON THE RIGHT WHERE THERE'S SORT OF AN OPEN AREA AND A PARKING LOT, WE CHOSE SOME TOMENTELLA. SO WIRES ARE A LITTLE HIGHER THERE AND THE SPREAD OF THE CANOPY CAN GO OVER THAT PARKING LOT. I DON'T THINK IT'LL BOTHER ANYBODY. YEAH. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS SOUTHGATE OPEN SPACE. SO IT'S OUT THERE BY FREIS ROAD. UM, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS LAKEVILLE, UM, AND IN THIS AREA WE WILL BE PLANTING A MIX OF OAK SEEDLINGS AND ALSO A FEW, UM, TOYON AND PRUNUS, ALYSSA FOLIA, WHICH IS A HOLLY LEAF CHERRY, WHICH ARE GREAT POLLINATOR PLANTS. UM, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE NEAR LAKEVILLE, IT'S REALLY NOISY. A COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE, UM, THERE'S A SOUND WALL THERE AND THEY'VE PLANTED TREES, I'M SURE TO BLOCK THE NOISE. SO THERE'LL BE MORE TREES PLANTED ON THAT END TO HOPEFULLY HELP WITH THE NOISE OF LAKEVILLE. UM, AND THE OTHER TREES, WE WE WERE BASICALLY TRYING TO REPLACE SOME OF THE COTTONWOODS THAT HAVE DIED AND ALSO JUST ADD SOME MORE CANOPY COVER, TRYING TO LINE IT UP WITH TREES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE TO, UM, PRESERVE ANY VIEWS OF THE AGRICULTURAL FIELD AND THE, AND THE VERY NICE LOOKING BARN THAT'S OUT THERE. UM, YEAH. AND THEN ALONG THE ROAD ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UM, BY THE HOMES, THERE'LL BE A ROW OF SIX TREES. UM, AND THOSE WILL HELP SHADE THE STREET THERE. SO, YES. NEXT SLIDE. OH, YOU MISSED . THAT'S OKAY. WE GOT IT. OKAY. THIS ONE IS THE STRATFORD LAD. SO AS I SAID, THE STRATFORD LAD IS LOCATED SORT OF BEHIND, UH, LEGHORN PARK. UM, AND WE'VE GOT 14 TREES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLANT THESE THERE. AND THESE ARE 15 GALLON TREES. UH, WE HAVE A, A MIX OF, WE ALWAYS TRY TO PUT IN BIG LEAF MAPLE WHEN WE CAN, WHEN THERE'S ENOUGH SHADE, 'CAUSE IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS TREE. UM, WE'VE GOT SOME BOX ELDER. WE'VE GOT, UM, ALSO, AGAIN, THE TOY ON AND THE CATALINA CHERRY, WHICH ARE GREAT FOR POLLINATORS. [00:50:01] AND WE'VE GOT WESTERN SYCAMORE AND ALSO WE'RE FILLING IN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE THERE ARE SOME GAPS IN THE LAD PLANTINGS, UM, AND LIKE A COUPLE OF STREET TREES THAT ARE MISSING. SO WE'LL ADD THOSE IN. OKAY. THIS IS OUR BIG ONE THIS YEAR. THIS IS WESTRIDGE OPEN SPACE, AND LIKE I SAID, IF YOU GO OUT I STREET AND TURN ON LIA, UM, YOU CAN FIND IT OUT THERE, . UM, IT IS A VERY LARGE PROPERTY, UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO PLANT A HUNDRED SEEDLINGS OUT THERE, AND IT'LL BE A MIX OF DIFFERENT OAKS AND ALSO WHERE WE CAN, WHERE THERE'S ENOUGH WATER, WE'RE GONNA SNEAK IN SOME BIG LEAF MAPLE. UM, THIS AREA IS HILLY AND THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT DRAINS DOWN THE HILL AND IT RUNS INTO THE CREEKS. AND SO THERE ARE, UM, THERE ALSO CONCRETE, UM, WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? DRAINAGE DRAINAGES. UM, SOME, UH, DRAINAGES. SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT COMES THROUGH AND THEY WANNA KEEP IT AWAY FROM THE HOUSES. AND SO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IS WE'LL BE PLANTING SEEDLINGS IN GROUPS, UM, WHICH WILL BE, AND THE GROUPS WILL BE SPACED APART FROM EACH OTHER. UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS THOSE TREES WILL HELP HOLD ONTO THE SOIL. AND WHEN WE GET MORE INTENSE RAINS, LIKE PERHAPS WE WILL BE GETTING, UM, IT WILL HELP HOLD ONTO THE SOIL AND KEEP THAT WATER, YOU KNOW, SLOW DOWN THAT WATER SO THAT IT CAN MORE SLOWLY ENTER THE CREEK. UH, ALSO PROVIDE HABITAT FOR BIRDS AND OTHER ANIMALS, UM, AND TO REPLACE SOME OF THE TREES, WHICH WERE PROBABLY THERE. THERE ARE SOME NICE HISTORIC OAKS OUT THERE, SINGLE SINGLES SINGLETONS, WHICH ARE BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEY PROBABLY COULD USE SOME FRIENDS . UM, SO THE NEXT SLIDE, WE CAN LIKE ZOOM IN ON THESE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. OH, YES. SO THESE ARE, THIS IS THE LIST OF THE DIFFERENT TREES WE'VE GOT. UM, BUCKEYE, ALSO SOME TOYON, UM, COAST LIVE OAK VALLEY OAK BLUE OAK UP ON THE HILLS. UM, GARA, ONE OF THE GREAT BIG TREES DOWN THERE IS A GARA, UM, CORCUS KGI, WHICH IS THE BLACK OAK VALLEY OAK AND INTERIOR LIVE OAK, WHICH, WHICH DON'T MIND BEING HOTTER. AND, UM, AND SO WHEN WE DO COLLECT THE SEEDLINGS, WE WILL COLLECT LOCALLY. WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS RIGHT NOW COLLECTING ACORNS LOCALLY. AND THEN WE ALSO TRAVEL A LITTLE BIT TO GET, UM, COLLECT FROM HOTTER AREAS SO THAT WE WILL MIX THOSE UP AND HAVE LOCAL ACORNS AND ALSO ONES THAT ARE GROWING IN HOTTER AREAS. SO WE KIND OF HEDGE OUR BETS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO THIS IS AREA ONE, WHICH IS BLACK OAK DRIVE. UM, IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT, UM, THE TREES ARE ALL SPACED AT LEAST 30 FEET APART IN GROUPS SO THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, IF A FIRETRUCK OR SOMETHING HAS TO GO THROUGH, THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE. UM, THEY ARE ALWAYS AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET AWAY FROM FENCE LINES AND STRUCTURES. AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIND THOSE AREAS WHERE WATER IS COLLECTING, UM, TO PLANT OUR ACORNS, BUT ALSO SOME WILL BE UP ON RIDGES. UM, AND IT'S GONNA BE AMAZING, UM, WHEN THEY GROW IN . ALL RIGHT, HERE'S THE AREA TWO. AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THE TINY PICTURE, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE PLANTING, UM, IN GROUPS AND NOT EVERYONE WILL SURVIVE, RIGHT? SO WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO MAKE A LITTLE BIGGER GROUP BECAUSE THEY WON'T ALL MAKE IT AND THEN SPACING THEM OUT. UH, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THERE'S A VINEYARD THERE. SO I THINK IT'S NICE TO PUT A LITTLE PROTECTION BETWEEN THE VINEYARD AND THE HOMES. UM, AND, UH, YEAH, NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. UH, THIS IS THE FITIA PLACE, NORTH AREA THREE. AND IN THIS AREA THERE'S, UM, WHERE THE YELLOW DOTS ARE, IT'S A GREEN AREA BECAUSE IT REALLY COLLECTS A LOT OF WATER. AND SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO PUT THOSE TREES WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE WATER COLLECTION FOR THE BEST, UH, CHANCE OF SUCCESS, AND THEN SUM UP ON THE HILLS. UM, [00:55:01] AND, UH, IT, YOU KNOW, A MIX OF EVERGREEN AND DECIDUOUS AND, UM, WE'RE THINKING THAT, UM, IT'LL HOLD ON, THAT'S VERY HILLY RIGHT THERE, HOLDING ONTO THE SOIL AND SLOWING DOWN THE WATER AND INCREASING WILDLIFE HABITAT. OKAY, THIS IS OUR GRAYSTONE OPEN SPACE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, WATER CONSERVATION THROUGH THE CITY. AND, UM, THIS, WE ARE HELPING THEM OUT WITH A MITIGATION THAT THEY NEED TO DO. UM, TREES WERE REMOVED BELOW RAINIER AVENUE AND THEY NEED TO REPLACE TREES. SO WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET IT DONE IN A ECONOMIC AND EFFICIENT WAY. UM, SO WE WILL BE PLANTING 70 SEEDLINGS IN THIS SPOT, A MIXTURE OF OAKS AND BUCKEYE AND, UH, WALNUT AND OTHER THINGS HERE. UM, WE ARE LEAVING ABOUT A 40 FOOT LANE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR AND THE BACK AND, UM, AND THE TREES AS A FIRE LANE. AND ALSO WE HAVE DISCOVERED THROUGH EXPERIENCE THAT BIG MACHINERY NEEDS TO GET THROUGH TO CLEAN OUT CREEKS. SO WE'VE LEFT LANES, UM, FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. AND, UM, THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT BECAUSE IT'LL BE A NICE LITTLE FOREST THAT PEOPLE CAN VISIT AND THEY WON'T HAVE TO HIKE UP A HUGE HILL TO GET TO SOME TREES . OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ADDING SOME SEEDLINGS ON THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL AT LENNOX DRIVE. THIS IS SORT OF ADJACENT TO THE STRATFORD, UM, LAD. AND SO ORIGINALLY WHEN THIS WAS PLANTED, THEY WERE ALL ONE SPECIES, ALL OREGON, UH, WHITE OAKS. AND SO WE ARE GOING BACK TO ADD DIVERSITY. AND SO THEY WILL BE, UM, COAST LIVE OAKS AND BLACK OAKS AND, UH, INTERIOR LIVE OAKS AND VALLEY OAKS. UM, THIS IS ANOTHER PART OF THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL ALONG CASTLE DRIVE, WHERE WE'RE JUST ADDING SOME MORE SEEDLINGS AND THEY'RE BASICALLY UP AGAINST, UM, PARALLEL TO THE FENCE WHERE THE GOLF COURSE IS. AND SO THAT'LL PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF PROTECTION FOR WHATEVER IS GOING ON AT THE GOLF COURSE, UM, AND JUST PROVIDE MORE HABITAT AND CANOPY COVER AND INCREASE THE OVERALL COOLING OF THE AREA. UM, THESE ARE ADDITIONS ALONG THE EAST SIDE, IN THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL. WE CALL IT OUR TWO LAYER, UM, THAT'S TWO LAYER STREET THERE. AND WE'LL BE ADDING 30 SEEDLINGS. UM, THE ONES ON THE LEFT WILL BE KIND OF GROUPED TOGETHER TO KIND OF FORM A LITTLE BLOCK, AND THEN THERE'LL BE TWO, UH, LITTLE GROUPS OF TREES. AND ALSO WE'RE GONNA ADD A FEW MORE, UM, UP ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ALONG THE FENCE THERE. YEAH, SO OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR ALL THESE PLANTINGS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN COMPLETED. UM, ON THE LEFT YOU SEE AN EXAMPLE OF THE FLYERS THAT WERE LEFT ON ALL THE DOORS OF THE HOMES WITH A VIEW OF WHEREVER WE'RE PLANTING. UH, AND THE GREEN CIRCLE ALERTED EVERYBODY TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH WE HAD LAST NIGHT, AND, UM, WHERE ANYONE WHO WAS HAD OPINIONS OR CONCERNS COULD COME TO THE MEETING. AND THEN, UH, AT EVERY PLANTING ON THE RIGHT IS AN EXAMPLE OF A SANDWICH BOARD SIGN. SO AT EVERY PLANTING LOCATION, AND AN, AND AT WESTRIDGE AT EVERY SPOT WHERE YOU WOULD ENTER THE PLANTING LOCATION WAS A SANDWICH, BOARD SIGN, ALERTING THEM TO THE PLANTING, WHAT WAS HAPPENING, AND INVITING THEM TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING. UH, I GUESS, UM, AND AGAIN, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT AND ALSO THAT WE WORK WITH WONDERFUL PARTNERS. FIRST AND FOREMOST, OF COURSE, IS THE CITY WHO HELPS US FIND PLANTING LOCATIONS AND WHO SECURED THE GRANT. AND, UM, THE WATERING WILL BE THROUGH OUR PARTNER AT REBUILDING TOGETHER. UM, THEY WILL, FOR SITES THAT NEED HAND WATERING, THEY GO OUT WITH THE WATER BUFFALO TO WATER THE TREES, UH, AND ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ABOUT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ALSO, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE IS, UH, THERE WILL, THERE [01:00:01] ARE VOLUNTEER PLANTING EVENTS, UH, POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE. WE HAD OUR FIRST PLANTING EVENT LAST SATURDAY AT MUSTANG ACRES, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT, AND WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO HAVE TWO A MONTH. AND THIS TUESDAY IS A GOPHER CAGE MAKING, UM, VOLUNTEER EVENT. SO IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO HELP, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL, , IF YOU HAVE TIME. SO CHECK IT OUT. IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. THANK YOU. UM, I HOPE THAT, UM, WE CAN GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE SITES AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK. AND, UM, AND ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THAT WAS, UH, GREAT. UM, AND I'M 100% AGAINST, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT. UH, WE'RE GONNA OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR COMMENTS. UM, MELANIE, WAS THERE ANY, UH, EMAIL, UH, QUESTIONS? THERE WAS ONE PUBLIC COMMENT EMAIL THAT'S BEEN POSTED ONLINE TO THE PACKET. OKAY. DO WE ADDRESS THAT FIRST OR GO? OH, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION CHAIR. WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT. IT'S BEEN POSTED AND PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. WE CAN MOVE ON TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. ANYONE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO. ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I DO. UM, JUST THE WEST, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO, AND I'M SO EXCITED ON SO MANY OF THESE EFFORTS. I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO TOO CRAZY LIKE THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I WONDER ABOUT, AND LIKE YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ANSWER, IS JUST SOME OF THESE SPACES, WHICH, LIKE THE GRAYSTONE ONE, I'M CURIOUS, I'VE JUST BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THIS IN WORK IN GENERAL, LIKE, WILL THAT OFFSET ALL THE MOWING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN GOING ON THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS? DO YOU KNOW IN THAT MAINTENANCE REGIME? WELL, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE WILL STILL NEED TO EITHER MOWAT OR HAVE YEAH, SHEEP NIBBLE THE GRASS. UM, WHEN WE PLANT, WE DO MULCH OR USE A WEED MAT THAT'S MADE OUT OF COCONUT FIBER. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE DO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP THE WEEDS DOWN. UM, WE ARE TRYING TO LINE UP VOLUNTEER TREE STEWARDS WHO TAKE CARE OF THE DIFFERENT SITES AND WHO VISIT TWICE A MONTH AND PULL WEEDS AND ALERT US TO ANY PROBLEMS. BUT I DO BELIEVE THE CITY WILL STILL NEED TO, SORRY, . MM-HMM. YEAH. BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM SO THEY'RE, THAT THEY YES. SEE THE TREE SEEDLINGS AND NOT DISTURB 'EM WHEN THEY'RE DOING MOWING, SO, YES. SO WHAT, UM, SO WHAT HAPPENED, I SHOULD HAVE PUT A PICTURE IN, I'M SORRY. BUT, UM, USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WE USE A, WE PLANT USING A GOPHER BASKET, WHICH IS TWO FEET TALL, ONE FOOT GOES UNDERGROUND, ONE FOOT IS ABOVE GROUND, AND WE PUT OUR WEED SUPPRESSING FABRIC, AND THEN WE PUT BROWSE FENCING UP. SO EITHER T POSTS OR REBAR, AND THEN SURROUNDED BY WIRE. AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE PUT A LITTLE PINK FLAG, UH, ON EACH OF THOSE CAGES AS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A SHOUT OUT TO ANYONE THERE TO WATCH OUT FOR THOSE MM-HMM . SO MY LAST TWO KIND OF COMMENTS, UM, ARE, WELL, THAT LAST POINT, I'M JUST LIKE, I'M CURIOUS IF THESE SPACES BECOME MORE TARGETED, LIKE WITH WEED, UM, ABATEMENT JUST AROUND THE TREES, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN GAS MOWERS OUT THERE YEAR OVER YEAR, IF THAT COULD POSSIBLY SUPPORT THE BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION TO REDUCE OUR EMISSIONS WHEN WE MAINTAIN THESE SPACES. WELL, DEFINITELY IN THE GRAYSTONE AREA WHERE WE'VE GOT SO MANY TREES, WHEN THOSE TREES MATURE, THEY'RE GONNA SHADE OUT THE GRASS. YEAH. AND SO, SO THAT COULD BE A GREAT CO BENEFIT. YEAH. SO THE MOWING WILL DEFINITELY DECREASE, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE TIME FOR THAT HAPPEN. SO MY LAST POINT, THE GRAYSTONE, AND THEN I READ THE COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, THE WESTRIDGE. UM, I GUESS I WOULD ENCOURAGE IN THE GRAYSTONE ONE TO MAYBE CONCENTRATE SOME OF THE PLANTINGS CLOSER TO THE CREEK BUFFER AND PROVIDE MORE SHADE OVER THE RIPARIAN AREA AND REDUCE EROSION. UM, THE WESTRIDGE PROPERTY, I DON'T, UM, I TRIED TO LOOK THIS UP. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON IT FROM SONOMA LAND TRUST, AND YES, WE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT? OH, WE ARE AWARE OF IT AND WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT. OKAY. YES. AND, AND THEY'RE TOTALLY ON BOARD AND EXCITED. GREAT. UH, WITH THE FACT THAT WE'RE PLANTING TREES. AMAZING. YES. I THINK, AGAIN, ON ONE OF THOSE SITES IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S THOMSON CREEK AND, UM, I WOULD PROBABLY ENCOURAGE TREES LOCATED CLOSER TO THE CREEK CORRIDOR. I THINK IT'S AREA TWO AND POSSIBLY ON THE WEST SIDE AREA ONE, OR, I CAN'T ACTUALLY TELL THE DIRECTION RIGHT NOW. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE AREA TWO AND ONE, I MIGHT RECOMMEND EXPANDING THE RIPARIAN ZONE WITH [01:05:01] THE TREE PLANTINGS AND MAYBE SHIFTING SOME OF THOSE TREES AWAY FROM THAT MEADOW AREA OR WHATEVER. UM, UNTIL A MORE ROBUST HABITAT MANAGEMENT PLAN COULD UNDERSTAND THE OTHER SPECIES DIVERSITY THAT MIGHT HISTORICALLY EXIST ACROSS THAT SPACE. SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING PLANTING MORE OF THE TREES ALONG THE CREEK CORRIDOR? YEAH. UM, THERE ARE, ARE, THERE ARE AREAS TWO AND 1, 2, 2 AND ONE, IF THERE'S RIM TO MODIFY THE DESIGN AT ALL. IF IT MAKES ANY MORE SENSE. IT LOOKS LIKE, I SEE LIKE A PURPLE DOT ON AREA ONE. IT'S LIKE I COULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT CREEK BUFFER HAS BEEN NARROWED AND IN SIZE FOR DECADES AND IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE CITY. SO IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO TRY TO PROTECT AND IMPROVE THOSE RESOURCES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. UM, UM, WHEN POSSIBLE AND APPROPRIATE. DEFINITELY. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S POSSIBLE IF IT'S CLOSER TO THE CREEK, THEN THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WATER RETENTION AND HELPS THE TREES SURVIVE. SO I'M ON BOARD WITH YOU THERE. UM, AT GRAYSTONE WE WERE TOLD WE HAD TO SET BACK FROM THE CREEK, SO, UM, WE CAN ONLY GET SO CLOSE TO THE CREEK, BUT I THINK WHEN THE CANOPY EXPANDS, THEN IT WILL HELP SHADE THAT WATER AND KEEP IT. COOL. THANKS SO MUCH. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. THOSE WERE WONDERFUL. UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? THANK YOU. UH, YEAH, I JUST WANNA ECHO THE, THE CONCERN ABOUT, UM, HOW WE'RE CHANGING OUR, UM, OUR OPEN SPACE AREAS WITH REGARD TO, UH, WILDLIFE DIVERSITY. UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GOOD SENSE OR THAT THE CITY HAS A GOOD SENSE OF EXACTLY WHAT WILDLIFE SPECIES ARE OUT IN SOME OF THESE AREAS. AND AS TIME GOES ON, THESE TREES ARE GONNA HAVE MORE AND MORE OF AN IMPACT ON THE AREAS WHERE THEY'RE PLANTED. MM-HMM . UM, I DON'T WANNA SEE ALL OF THE OPEN SPACE, THE OPEN MEADOWS AND OPEN AREAS, UM, BECOME COMPLETELY PLANTED OVER AND FORESTED. WE NEED A BALANCE OF BOTH OF THOSE TYPE OF AREAS. YEAH. SO I JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE, UH, SOME CAUTION AND THOUGHT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE, THAT WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR WILDLIFE THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, CROWDING OUT CURRENT USES THAT WILDLIFE HAS FOR THESE AREAS. AND THAT WE'RE BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT NOT JUST HOW PEOPLE USE THESE AREAS, BUT HOW ALL THE LIVING THINGS THAT WE COEXIST WITH YES. USE ALL OF THESE AREAS AND THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING ON THAT WHOLE ECOSYSTEM. YEAH. SO, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT RELIEF HAS BEEN DOING AND GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF MORE TREES. I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE PLANTING MORE AND MORE TREES ABOUT NOT JUST STUFFING 'EM INTO ANY OPEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE. YEAH. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND, UM, I AGREE WITH YOU. UM, LIKE, UH, UH, THE EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAILS, WE'VE GOT TREES ON THE EDGES, RIGHT? SO WE'RE, UM, ON A LOT OF THEM. SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE MIDDLES CLEAR OF TREES. UM, AND THEN FOR WEST SIDE, UM, WESTRIDGE OPEN SPACE, IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY HUGE AREA. UM, SO NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, THE TREES ARE SPACE FROM THE HOMES, BUT BEHIND THOSE TREES IS AN AMAZING, VAST AREA OF OPEN SPACE AND GRASS AND, UM, AREAS FOR WILDLIFE. UM, BUT I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. COMMISSIONER OR COM. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THAT IS CAN BE A CONCERN. LIKE THE WESTRIDGE ONE IS MORE IN THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE AND THAT IS A BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE URBAN FORESTRY. THAT RELIEF DOES QUITE A BIT. NOT TO SAY THAT THAT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE THE TECHNICAL CAPACITY TO, UM, IMPROVE THESE HABITATS, BUT THOSE ARE, HAVE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT CONSIDERATIONS THAN THIS. SOME OF THE OTHER STREET TREE PLANTING PROJECTS AND, UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK LIKE WILDFIRE IS A SIGNIFICANT HAZARD IN THAT AREA, BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO BE IN CONSIDERATION OF IN THE WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE. UM, BUT MAYBE ON THAT ONE, I WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO ENCOURAGE IF SONOMA LAND TRUST OR STRAW HAS ANY MORE CAPACITY TO GUIDE, UM, THE PLANTING PLANS ON THOSE LOCATIONS [01:10:01] SO THAT WE ARE AS TECHNICALLY ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE. AND IT'S LIKE THE CONCERN IS A FORESTATION, WHICH IS PUTTING TREES WHERE THEY DIDN'T USE TO EXIST COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT BIODIVERSITY. SO I, I AGREE THAT THERE IS ABUNDANT MEADOW HABITAT AROUND PETALUMA AND WE ARE SEVERELY UNDER CANOPY. SO IT'S LIKELY THAT WITH YOUR SPECIES SELECTION THIS WOULD BE AN IMPROVEMENT AND NEAR THE HISTORICALLY ECOLOGY OF WHAT ONCE EXISTED. SO I DO STILL SUPPORT THAT. UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE SUPPORT FROM STRAW AND POINT BLUE AND SONOMA LAND TRUST SPECIFICALLY SINCE THEY ARE THE EASEMENT HOLDER, UM, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO RELY ON THEM FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. YES. UM, WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED TO THE FIRE MARSHAL AND SHE LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR PLANS AND IS HAPPY WITH ALL OF THEM IN TERMS OF HOW FAR THE TREES ARE SET BACK FROM STRUCTURES AND ALSO HOW WE'RE LEAVING ROOM FOR FIRE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES TO KIND OF MOVE AROUND WITHIN THE TREES. UM, YES. AND UM, I WOULD LOVE TO WORK MORE IF RELIEF COULD PARTNER WITH SONOMA LAND TRUST AND THEY COULD DO SOME UNDERSTORY, LIKE NATIVE PLANTINGS AND WE COULD DO THE TREES. IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IN THAT WEST BRIDGE, IT'S ALL NON-NATIVE GRASSES. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME COYOTE BUSH, NOT A LOT. UM, BUT THAT'S WHY THE TREES ARE, I THINK, MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE ANNUAL GRASSES, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED GENTLE RAINS TO KIND OF START THEIR SEEDS AND GET THEIR ROOTS. WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE A HUGE RAINFALL ALL AT ONCE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THE ROOTS OF THE TREES THAT ARE IN THOSE SOILS CAN REALLY HANG ON. WHERE THE ANNUAL GRASSES, WHICH ARE NON-NATIVE, THEY'RE NOT BUNCH GRASSES ARE, YOU KNOW, MIGHT NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HOLD THE SOIL IN, IN LARGE RAIN EVENTS. MM-HMM . UH, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UH, I HAVE A FEW. OH, DID YOU HAVE ONE? NO. OKAY. UM, FIRST OFF, I, I LOVE THIS WHOLE INITIATIVE AND THE REPLANTING AND ALL OF THAT. I DO HAVE A FEW CONCERNS. UM, A FEW OF THOSE SLIDES LOOK LIKE THE AREAS WERE IN HEAVILY GRASSED AREAS LIKE MAINTAINED GRASS MM-HMM . SO THAT USUALLY MEANS A LOT OF WATER. SO AGAIN, WE GET BACK TO THE OVERSATURATION. YEAH. UH, ROOT ROUTE ISSUES, THINGS LIKE GENERAL HEALTH. UM, SO I WOULD LIKE ANYWHERE IN THE, THOSE WIDE FIELD AREAS CUT BACK THE GRASS MINIMUM OF SIX FEET FROM THE TRUNK, COVER THAT WITH SOME MULCH THAT WILL REALLY HELP THOSE TREES. OKAY. UM, ALSO TO THE COAST OAKS, UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PLANTING THEM AROUND ANYTHING THAT IS A CARRIER OF SOD. SO, UH, THERE'S A LONG LIST OF TREES THAT CAN CARRY IT THAT AREN'T AFFECTED BY IT, BUT THEY WILL INFECT IT. NOW IF WE'RE PLANTING THOSE UPHILL FROM THOSE, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. 'CAUSE IT'S GENERALLY MOVED THROUGH WATER OR MOISTURE. UM, AND LASTLY TO THE OPEN SPACE AREAS, UH, I DO THINK THAT THE PLANES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, AS IMPORTANT AS OUR FORESTED AREAS. I DO THINK A TREE OR A TALL TREE OR TWO THROUGHOUT THOSE FIELDS MIGHT ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE RAPTORS, GIVEN 'EM A PLACE TO SIT AND PERCH AND, AND, AND HUNT AND STILL HAVE A CLEAN, CLEAN LINE OF FLIGHT. SO, UM, I THINK IF IT'S DONE CORRECTLY, UH, DEFINITELY WE COULD GET SOME TREES IN THERE WHILE NOT IMPACTING THE OVERALL WILDLIFE. AND THEN LASTLY, UH, A COUPLE AREAS YOU SAID HAD SOME PEAKS AND VALLEYS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TREES PLANTED ON THOSE HIGH SPOTS SO THAT WATER RUNOFF IS NOT SITTING DOWN THERE AGAIN TO THE, TO THE WATERBORNE ISSUES THAT CAN COME ALONG WITH THAT. YEAH, WE ARE DOING BOTH IN THE HIGH SPOTS AND IN THE SWALES TO KIND OF COVER BOTH AREAS. OKAY. YES. AND THEN, UM, IN TERMS OF RAPTORS, UM, IN THAT WESTRIDGE OPEN SPACE, THERE IS, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF ACRES MORE BETWEEN THE 1 0 1. IF YOU LIKE, ZOOM OUT ON THE MAP BETWEEN THE 1 0 1 HELEN PUTNAM PARK ALL THROUGH THAT HILLSIDE, IT'S ALL OPEN SPACE. PROBABLY MOSTLY USED FOR RANCH LAND. SO THERE'S A LOT THERE FOR RAPTORS TO UTILIZE, BUT ALSO RAPTORS NEED PLACES TO PERCH. MM-HMM . THEY ALSO, THE TREES WILL [01:15:01] ALSO INCREASE HABITAT FOR OTHER KINDS OF RODENTS WHO CAN TAKE COVER UNDER THE TREES. UM, AND ALSO, UH, COOPER'S HAWKS, THEY LOVE TO PERCH TREES AND SURPRISE BIRDS. MM-HMM . SO, UM, I THINK THAT YES, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE LOOK OF THE AREA A LITTLE BIT. IT'S POSSIBLE THAT AREA HAD TREES BEFORE RANCHERS CAME AND HOME BUILDERS CAME AND CUT THEM ALL DOWN. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TAKE A RIDE ON THE 1 0 1, THERE ARE HILLSIDES JUST COVERED WITH OAK TREES, LIKE, IS THAT WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE? MM-HMM . YOU KNOW MM-HMM . SO I THINK ADDING A HUNDRED TREES IS NOT A HUGE DEAL. AND, UM, AND, BUT IT'S A WONDERFUL DEAL IN TERMS OF HABITAT AND WHAT IT CAN DO FOR THE SOIL AND THE WATER AND ALL OF THAT. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE RAPTORS WILL BE OKAY. I KNOW FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I HAVE WATCHED RAPTORS SIT IN TREES AND THEN DIVE ON CHICKENS. SO , I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY ADAPTABLE. YES. I, I, I DO AGREE WITH YOU ON, ON MOST OF THAT. YES. I JUST DON'T, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT PUTTING A A, A LARGE CANOPY OVER YEAH. MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SPOTS THAT THEY CAN PERCH AND DO THAT HUNTING. YES, I AGREE. GREAT. YES. WELL, CAROLYN, UM, WHEN YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PLANTING ALL THE SEEDLINGS, YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT MANY OF THEM WON'T SURVIVE, RIGHT. ESPECIALLY IN THIS WESTRIDGE OPEN SPACE. YEAH. UM, USUALLY WE ASSUME THAT MANY OF THEM WILL SURVIVE BECAUSE WE WATER THEM, UH, WITH OUR WATER TRUCK ONCE A WEEK, THE FIRST YEAR, ONCE EVERY TWO WEEKS THE SECOND YEAR. I WAS GONNA ASK YOU THAT. YEAH. YES. OH YES. SO IN THIS WESTRIDGE WE AREA THERE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY ON THE HILLS, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING TO WATER THEM MM-HMM . AND SO WE WILL WATER WHAT WE CAN. WE'LL SEE IF WE COULD PUT OUR REMOTE WATERING SYSTEM UP THERE AND SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WE WANTED TO PLANT CLOSER TO WATER. NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GONNA SURVIVE. YEAH. UM, BECAUSE IT'S A TOUGH AREA. MM-HMM . IT'S ALSO WHY WE ARE GONNA DO MOSTLY ACORNS IN THAT AREA INSTEAD OF SEEDLINGS BECAUSE, UH, THE ACORNS WILL SEND DOWN A REALLY DEEP TAPROOT LOOKING FOR THAT WATER, WHEREAS THE SEEDLINGS HAVE BEEN IN A LITTLE POT BEING WATERED AND THEY WON'T HAVE THAT TAPROOT MM-HMM . SO NOT EVERYTHING WILL SURVIVE THERE. YEAH. UM, UM, I JUST HAVE TO SAY NUMBER ONE, THE, THE TIMES I'VE GONE OUT WITH RELIEF AND LOOKED AT DIFFERENT TREES THAT ARE PLANTED ALL OVER THE CITY, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THE ONES THAT DON'T GET WATER THAT AREN'T ON MM-HMM . I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I TAUGHT AT THE JC FOR MANY YEARS AND I'M UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THAT LIVE OAKS, YOU CAN'T PUT A LAWN RIGHT NEXT TO A LIVE OAK. BUT I'M ALSO JUST KIND OF STUNNED AT LIKE, THERE'S MILES AND MILES OF JUST NOTHING. JUST PLAIN OLD HILLS BEYOND PETALUMA MM-HMM . THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THEM, BUT AN OCCASIONAL LIVE OAK. SO I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND ANY RESISTANCE AT ALL TO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. MM-HMM . I'M, I'M KIND OF MYSTIFIED ABOUT IT ACTUALLY, BUT I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'VE SAID, LIKE ABOUT THE WASTEWATER. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM . THE BORON YOU SAID THAT WAS IN IT. MM-HMM . SO I HAVE JUST A QUESTION THOUGH THAT'S KIND OF OFF TOPIC AND I DON'T EXPECT A DETAILED ANSWER FROM YOU, BUT LIKE, HOW IS, HOW IS THE, THE FUNDING FOR RELIEF GOING? IS THAT, I KNOW LIKE YOU HAD AMERICORPS HELPING WITH THIS FOR A WHILE AND NOW YOU DON'T, SO YEAH. CAN YOU JUST TELL US HOW DO YOU MANAGE? YEAH, SO AMERICORPS UM, HELPED US PLANT RE RESIDENTIAL TREES AND THIS YEAR IT WAS REBUILDING TOGETHER WORKS CREW WHO HELPED US PLANT, WHO DIDN'T HELP US PLANT, WHO PLANTED ALL OF OUR RESIDENTIAL TREES. RIGHT. SO THE FUNDING FOR STAFF, UM, IS ENDING EITHER SOMETIME AROUND DECEMBER OR JANUARY. SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET ALL THESE PLANTINGS DONE BY THEN. UH, THERE IS STILL FUNDING IN THE BUDGET OF COURSE FOR WATERING. UM, THAT'S HOW THE GRANT GOES. MM-HMM . YOU'VE GOTTA GET THEM ALL PLANTED AND THEN HAVE MONEY FOR WATERING. SO I KNOW THAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING FOR NEW GRANTS AND MM-HMM . WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. UM, YEAH, WELL I'M JUST, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND I KNOW THAT WE, UM, IN ONE OF OUR AD HOCS, KEITH AND I, WE, WE DID TALK ABOUT, I REMEMBERED WE DID ONE MEETING AND WE TALKED WITH RELIEF ABOUT FUNDING AND MM-HMM . BATTED AROUND ALL KINDS OF IDEAS. UM, ALL OF SOME WERE MINE AND THEY WEREN'T VERY GOOD MM-HMM . WE WERE, WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE STUFF OUT, BUT [01:20:01] I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD GIVE YOU A, UM, A LETTER OF, OF APPROVAL OR, UM, WHAT IS IT CALLED, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP YOU FROM, FROM THE TAC THAT WOULD BE A LETTER THAT WOULD, YOU COULD USE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FUNDING, IF THAT WOULD HELP. I THINK THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I I, I WONDER IF EVERYONE WOULD AGREE TO THAT. I THINK IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED ON, BUT MM-HMM . WHAT DO YOU THINK? I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN JUST SO PHENOMENAL IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT YOU'VE HAD AND IT JUST, IT'S, IT'S, IT HURTS TO SEE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS NOW AND WHEN I'M WONDERING WHAT IN THE HECK IS GONNA HAPPEN WITH ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU'RE DOING NOW. SO, I MEAN, ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO HELP WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A GREAT THING. SO I KNOW LIKE PROVIDING A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR GUYS FOR, FOR LOOKING FOR FUNDING AND I'M WONDERING IF EVERYBODY AGREES WITH ME ABOUT THAT, IF THAT WOULD BE USEFUL. UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S THIS OTHER IDEA WHICH JEN, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER, WHICH IS TO, UM, FIND, UM, TO DECLARE RELIEF A WORTHY CAUSE. AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S OFFICIAL, SO YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. BUT, UM, ANYWAY, I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, THINK IT MIGHT BE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOUR, THE FUTURE OF SUCCESS OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OFFERING THAT AND FOR BRINGING UP THOSE SUGGESTIONS. I REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT TO TOPIC THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TACKLE LATER ON. WE ARE GETTING SHORT ON TIME THOUGH, SO, UH, MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND DISCUSS IT THAT MAYBE NEXT TIME. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT RELIEF HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND OF COURSE WE, UH, WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT OTHER PARTNERSHIPS IN THE FUTURE AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS AS, AS NEEDED DEPENDING ON HOW THAT INVOLVES THE CITY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING IS GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR INPUT. MM-HMM . UH, OKAY. I'M GONNA OPEN THIS UP TO [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] GENERAL PUBLIC 'CAUSE WE ARE SHORT ON TIME. SO, UH, DURING THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO, TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON OUR CURRENT AGENDA. UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED TO EQUAL SHARES TOTAL, NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES. UM, SO I'M GONNA OPEN THIS UP TO, UH, THE GENERAL PUBLIC. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS THEY WANNA BRING TO THE CLERK ALREADY DONE? WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD. IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU CAN BRING ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD UP TO MY DESK. WE HAD NO ONLINE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFOREHAND. THANK YOU. AND YVO BROOKE? HI. IT'S GONNA BE OUR FIRST SPEAKER. HELLO EVE O'ROURKE. I'M WONDERING WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE URBAN FORESTER, UH, GUARDIAN POSITION. WHERE IS THIS PERSON? TREES ARE STILL GETTING HACKED AND MURDERED AND THE CANOPIES THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING AND HAVE DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST 15 AND 20 YEARS ARE GOING INTO THE CHIPPER. IT'S PITIFUL. UM, YOU NEED A GUARDIAN POSITION NOW. AND WHERE IS THIS AND WHAT IS BLOCKING IT? I, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. UH, JEN, MAYBE CAN YOU MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AND WE CAN LOOK INTO IT A LATER DAY? YEAH, WE'LL, UM, I'LL DEFINITELY NOTE THAT AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PLANNING TEAM WHO IS WORKING ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCES AND THE CHANGES THAT WERE ENACTED BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE GENERAL PLAN AND TO PROTECT TREES. AND SO WE ARE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THEM AND WE HOPE TO BRING A MORE, UM, A DETAILED UPDATE TO THE TREE PRES, THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SOON. UM, AND SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT, BUT DEFINITELY, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY, I'M GONNA CLOSE THAT AT THIS TIME THEN. UH, CAN [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WE GET AN APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JULY 15TH, 2026? I SECOND MOTION TO MOVE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM JULY 15TH. CAN I GET A SECOND? I SECOND IT. [01:25:01] . OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? NONE. . SO I GUESS IF YOU WEREN'T HERE LAST YEAR, YOU HAVE TO ABSTAIN. HUH? IS THAT TRUE? DO WE? DOESN'T MATTER, . THAT'S RIGHT. I WAS HOPING TO GET AWAY WITH IT, BUT ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS? NO. OKAY. UH, THEN THE ME THE THE MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AS PRESENTED. UH, I [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TIME FOR THE AD HAWK . YEAH. UH, THAT'S REALLY GREAT INSIGHT. I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE, UH, MOVE THIS ITEM TO OUR NEXT AGENDA. YES. IF, UM, IF THAT WORKS FOR THE CHAIR AND THE AGREED COMMITTEE. YEAH. YEAH. UH, OKAY. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP, SKIP ALL OF THAT THERE. UM, ARE WE READY TO WRAP? AM I MISSING ANYTHING HERE, JEN? YEAH, SO IF THE, I, WE CAN ROLL INTO COMMITTEE COMMENTS. WE, WE DO WANNA WRAP IT UP BY FIVE O'CLOCK. SO I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND KEEPING COMMITTEE COMMENTS TO NECESSARY ITEMS TONIGHT. UM, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU. CHAIR CHAND. ANY ANYBODY [COMMITTEE COMMENT] HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME TO FOLLOW UP ON THE TPOS URBAN PLANNER. URBAN FORESTER. SORRY. UM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED ON IT, DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW AND IF WE'RE GONNA GET ONE OF THOSE. SO THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO KNOW. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION. DIANE. I AGREE. AND WELL, I WANNA CONGRATULATE OUR NEW CHAIR. YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB. SHEPHERDING US ALONG. DIDN'T, DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT, BUT , IT WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL. VERY GOOD. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . . UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THANK ALL OF YOU GUYS. YOU ALL HAD GREAT COMMENTS AND SOME THINGS I WASN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT WHEN I WAS WALKING IN HERE. YEAH. SO, UM, YEAH, I, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE AND, UH, ANY [STAFF COMMENT] COMMENTS, JEN? UH, REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WE ARE INTERNALLY WORKING TO GETTING THOSE DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. SO, AGAIN, JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT. AND AS FAR AS THE CRUDE TIME, WE ARE SPENDING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME ON IRRIGATION AND PREPARE, PREPARING FOR THIS WINTER'S, UH, PREDICTED EL NINO BY TRIMMING TREES AND, AND BEING READY FOR THAT. YEAH, THAT'S MY UPTAKE. EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. UH, AND WITH THAT WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 5:00 PM ON THE DOT. ALRIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.