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AND WELCOME TO THE 21ST MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, 2026.IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK.
UM, IF WE COULD PLEASE TAKE ROLL RAMIREZ.
AND NOW HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
AND LET'S NOW DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE DRAW.
[GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT]
WE'RE GONNA DO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, AND DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE, TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
I SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS HERE.
NOW THAT YOU'VE GIVEN THEM TO ME.
SO JUST, UH, NUMBER ONE YOU CAN ASK FOR SAY SOMETHING.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, AND WE HAVE TWO IN PERSON COMMENTS TONIGHT.
UM, SO NOW OPEN GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, IT SEEMS THAT THE SPEAKERS HAVE BROUGHT UP THEIR GUARDS.
UM, LET'S START WITH, UM, CHANTAL ROGERS.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ THE ADMONISHMENT REALLY FAST.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.
SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS.
THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND OBSCENITY ARE GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL FROM THIS MEETING.
COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS.
THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND INVITED TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE COUNTDOWN BEGINS, YOU CAN COME UP.
UM, I WATCHED THE RECENT SONOMA COUNTY COMMISSION ON HUMAN RIGHTS FLOCK FORUM FROM LAST WEEK.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GOT A CHANCE TO, TO SEE IT, WHERE THE PANEL INCLUDED SUPERVISOR LINDA HOPKINS, THE SANTA ROSA AND ROOKE PARK, CHIEFS OF POLICE, SONOMA COUNTY SHERIFF INGRAM, A COUPLE COUNCIL PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES, AND A PRIVACY ADVOCATE.
I LEARNED THAT BOTH SANTA ROSA AND ROAN PARK HAD HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW DISCUSSION ABOUT CO FLOCK CAMERA USE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
BASED ON THE FEEDBACK BOTH SANTA ROSA AND ROANOKE PARK REDUCED THE NUMBER OF ENTITIES THAT THEY SHARE THEIR DATA WITH.
SANTA ROSA NOW ONLY SHARES WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AS OPPOSED TO THE ENTIRE STATE.
AND ROANOKE PARK ONLY SHARES THEIR DATA WITH FIVE SONOMA COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATION.
THAT'S AS FAR AS THEIR DATA SHARING GOES.
THE SANTA ROSA POLICE CHIEF OF POLICE ALSO SAID THAT HE WAS ACTIVELY RESEARCHING ALTERNATIVES.
SUPERVISOR HOPKINS, WHO HAD VOTED TO APPROVE THE CAMERAS FOR THE SONOMA COUNTY AUTO THEFT TASK FORCE IN 2023, SAID THAT BASED ON WHAT SHE NOW KNOWS ABOUT THE COMPANY AND THE PRIVACY CONCERNS, SHE WOULD NOT TODAY HAVE VOTED TO FUND THEM.
PETALUMA APPEARS TO BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND URGENCY CONCERNING FLOCK CAMERA USE.
OTHER SONOMA CITIES SEEM TO BE FAR MORE OPEN TO DISCUSSION WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
THE KITTY CITY COUNCIL NEVER AGENDIZED YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES TO FLOCK BEFORE OUR CONTRACT EXPIRED AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY RENEWED.
AND SO THE PUBLIC HAS HAD NO OPPORTUNITY FOR MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION APART FROM YOUR JANUARY MEETING.
CONCERNS ABOUT FLOCK CAMERA USE ARE NOT GOING AWAY.
AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND WOULD SHOW INCREASED TRANSPARENCY IF THE CITY WOULD HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING AS MANY OTHER NORTH BAY CITIES HAVE, WHERE RESIDENTS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR FLOCK PROGRAM, BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS AND HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
ANYTHING YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP FACILITATE SUCH A MEETING WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED.
I REALIZE THAT I SHOULD PROBABLY BE SAYING THIS AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, BUT GENERAL COMMENTS ARE USUALLY LIMITED, ONE OR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES, WHICH REALLY ISN'T LONG ENOUGH TO GET MUCH ACROSS.
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HOPING THAT YOU GUYS CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING SO THAT WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THE WAVE OF ACTIVISM THAT'S COMING OUR WAY.COMMUNICATION IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING, AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
I I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE FOR NINA.
I'M, UH, REFLECTING ON THE END RUN AROUND THE FOURTH AMENDMENT THAT, UH, AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THE LIKE, AND THE LIKE, THAT'S IMPORTANT, UH, SEEM TO PRESENT.
UH, I THINK WE CAN AGREE THAT FLOCK POSES SOME CHALLENGES AT, AT BEST, UH, BETWEEN, UH, CORPORATE GOVERNANCE, UH, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
BUT LET'S NOT MISLEAD OURSELVES AND THINK, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, AXON IS GONNA BE SO MUCH SAFER.
ACTUALLY, THAT'S A LITTLE MORE DANGEROUS.
THEY, THEY, UH, BETWEEN THEIR BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND WHATNOT, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MISCHIEF.
AND IT'S THAT, WHICH I'M THINKING OF RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, THIS CHIEF MILLER'S NOT GONNA BE AROUND FOREVER.
IN FACT, I THINK HE'S LEAVING.
I JUST LEARNED OR READ, OR AM I RIGHT OR NO? NO, NOT LEAVING, NOT NOT LEAVING YOUR ROLE, BUT LIKE STEPPING BACK FROM PUBLIC SAFETY DUTIES.
OR MAYBE I'M, OR MAYBE, NEVERMIND.
BUT THE POINT I WAS LABORING TO MAKE IS, YOU GUYS ARE GREAT.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE NEXT PERSON AND THE NEXT ONE AND THE NEXT ONE.
AND I NEVER THOUGHT I'D LIVE TO BE THIS OLD, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
AND THE NEXT 20 YEARS DON'T SEEM PARTICULARLY, UM, COMFORTING GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HISTORY AND, UH, HOW, HOW IT TENDS TO, IF NOT REPEAT ITSELF, THEN RHYME AS I'VE HEARD SOMEONE ELSE SAY.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE, UH, SOME EXAMINATION OF OUR, UH, DATA AGGREGATION AND INCLUDE THAT PERHAPS IN OUR, UM, INTEGRA ASSURE REPORTING.
OKAY, WE GOT SOME HITS ON FLOCK, WE'VE GOT THIS, YOU KNOW, OFFICER SO AND SO SERGEANT, SO-AND-SO LIEUTENANT, YOU KNOW, SUCH AND SUCH.
OKAY, LET'S COUNT THOSE AND LET'S FOLLOW THAT AND LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WAS PROBABLE CAUSE? IS THAT A GOOD IDEA? I'M PRETTY, I I'M IMAGINING YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT INTERNALLY, BUT IT WOULD OFFER SO MUCH REASSURANCE TO A, A REALLY NERVOUS PUBLIC.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE HOMELAND SECURITY JUST, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OUT ON BODEGA.
WE, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE BEING SENTENCED FOR A HUNDRED YEARS FOR PARTICIPATING IN, UH, YOU KNOW, A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION AND WE RELY ON YOU TO KEEP US SAFE.
PLEASE CONSIDER THAT, WON'T YOU? THANKS.
UM, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHERS, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT NOW AND MOVE ON TO
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2026.UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? OKAY.
UM, THE MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
AND THEN THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
UM, DISCUSSING AND ELECTING THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.UM, I INVITE CITY STAFF TO BEGIN THIS DISCUSSION.
YEAH, I THINK, UM, AS YOU RECALL, AND WE, UH, HEARD FROM THE CHAIR AT THE PRIOR MEETING, UM, UNEXPECTEDLY.
HE, HE ADVISED THAT HE WAS, UM, NO LONGER GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH US, AND WE RESPECTED HIS WISHES AND WE APPRECIATED HIS, HIS TENURE WITH THE, THE COMMITTEE, BUT WITH HIS ABSENCE, UH, WE, WE MISS HIM, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO CARRY FORWARD TO THE WORK OF THE COMMITTEE AND ALSO, UM,
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REPLACE HIS, UM, CHAIR, UM, ROLE.UM, WE ALSO, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE, UM, WERE ABSENT IN THE FACT THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO DESIGNATE A VICE CHAIR, UM, FOR THOSE, UH, UNANTICIPATED, UM, OCCURRENCES WHERE THE CHAIR MAY BE, UM, UNAVAILABLE OR, UM, ABSENT AT THE MEETING.
SO WE'LL HAVE A, A REDUNDANCY THERE.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR JUST GENERAL AWARENESS THAT, UM, THE, UH, CITY AS A MATTER OF PRACTICE, UM, WILL DO A RECRUITMENT IN THE NEW YEAR FOR ANY VACANCIES AND ANY COMMITTEES, COMMISSIONS OR BOARDS FOR, UM, UH, VACANT SEATS ON ANY COMMITTEE.
SO THE CITY CLERK WILL, WILL SOLICIT THAT SEAT FOR, FOR OUR VACANCY ON THIS COMMITTEE AND, AND, UH, PUBLISH THROUGH THAT THROUGH THEIR NORMAL PROCESS.
SO WE'LL HELP FACILITATE THAT AND SHARE FURTHER INFORMATION WHEN THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE.
BUT FOR THE EXERCISE TONIGHT, WE'D WELCOME AND I, I'D MAYBE TURN THE, THE, UM, CONVERSATION BACK OVER TO, TO YOU ALL, IF THERE'S MAYBE A NOMINATION OR IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SELF NOMINATE THEMSELF.
I THINK FROM HOW WE MAYBE STARTED THE MEETING, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST PROCESS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE, UM, THAT WOULD LIKE TO SHEPHERD THE MEETINGS, STAFF PREPARES, UM, ALL THE MATERIALS.
SO, UM, THERE'S NOT REALLY A A, AN, UH, AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE FRONT OF THAT.
WE HELP HELP YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND HOW TO PREPARE FOR THE MEETINGS AND NAVIGATE IT.
SO, UM, IT'S MEANT TO BE PRETTY FRICTIONLESS.
UM, BUT REALLY, IT IT'S ABOUT HELPING, HELPING YOU, UM, AND IN THE SERVICE OF, OF NAVIGATING THIS AS, AS YOU LEAD THE COMMITTEE THROUGH SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, UM, AND BE A STEWARD FOR, FOR THE BOARD.
SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WANTS TO START THAT DISCUSSION OR IF SOMEONE FEELS PASSIONATE ABOUT ANOTHER COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY, OR MAYBE WE WANT TO DIP OUR TOE IN THE CONVERSATION AND START WITH THE VICE CHAIR FIRST.
SOMEONE'S GOTTA DO IT AND I CAN'T, SO I'M NOT ALLOWED.
UM, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE THE VICE CHAIR BACK QB TO THE CHAIR.
UM, I DON'T WANNA POINT TO ANYBODY NEAR ME FOR WHO I THINK WOULD BE FANTASTIC AS THE CHAIR.
WHAT IF I WAS VICE CHAIR AND YOU WERE CHAIR? YEAH, THERE CAN BE A CO-CHAIR.
NO, UM, MAYBE WE CAN ROW SHAMBO FOR IT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED? INTERESTED? I'LL BE THE BACKUP TO THE BACKUP.
WELL, WOULD IT, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OF SOMETHING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE DANIELLE BE THE CHAIR.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'D SECOND THAT.
SO I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND THEN IF THE CHAIR FOR THE COMMITTEE TONIGHT WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE? YES.
DO I GET ABSTAIN? DO I ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE IF I'M THE ONE NOMINATED? YOU, YOU, YOU CAN CALL, YOU CAN NOT CALL YOUR MOTION, I GUESS, BUT YOU DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
I'M TECHNICALLY NOT THE CHAIR TONIGHT.
SO JULIA GETS TO DO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, CORRECT? YES.
IT'S YOUR, I GUESS YOUR LAST NIGHT IS CHAIR AND THEN WE WILL MOTION FOR VICE CHAIR.
WHICH I MOTION VICE CHAIR BE JULIA
AND I DOUBLE THAT AND GIVE IT TO THE NEXT PERSON.
I MOTIONED FOR THE VICE CHAIR TO BE MARCUS, THE VICE CHAIR.
BUT THERE'S ALREADY A MOTION FOR VICE CHAIR.
MY MOTION WAS FOR CHAIR, ACTUALLY, BUT SHE JUST, SHE SECONDED.
SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST LET'S VOTE ON CHAIR.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE TAKE THE FIRST MOTION AND THEN WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE NEED TO SECOND ON THE, ON THE SECOND ITEM.
BUT MAYBE LET'S TAKE THIS IN PARTS AND SO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CHAIR POSITION.
AND THEN WE'D BE READY FOR A ROLL CALL.
VOTE IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.
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NOW? YES.MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY FOR DANIELLE NELSON AS CHAIR.
AND THEN YOU HAD MADE A MOTION.
I MOTION JULIA AS VICE CHAIR FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.
AND SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND NOW WE'D CALL THE MOTION FOR A ROLL CALL.
SO CAN WE CALL THE MOTION FOR A ROLL CALL? VOTE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A GREAT CHAIR,
THIS IS FOR VOTING FOR VICE CHAIR RAMIREZ? YES.
UM, IF YOU DON'T WANNA DO IT, MARCUS DOES HE'LL.
UM, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I, I MEAN, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THIS? YES.
MOTION CARRIES FOR JULIA TO BE VICE CHAIR, NEVER ABSENT.
IF IT, IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER, I HAVE A VERY GOOD ATTENDANCE RECORD.
AND MADAM CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NO DE NOVEMBER MEETING CORRECT.
AND THERE'S NO DECEMBER MEETING.
AND IN JANUARY YOU'LL HAVE A NEW COUNCIL LIAISON, SO I WILL NOT BE HERE.
YOU GET SOMEBODY NEW IN MY SEAT BECAUSE IT ROTATES EVERY TWO YEARS.
AND THERE WILL BE SOME CHANGES ON THE CITY COUNCIL, MOST LIKELY.
WELL, I'VE ENJOYED MY TIME WITH YOU.
I HOPE TO STILL BE, BUT MY TWO YEARS WILL ROTATE OFF.
AND IT GOES TO SOME OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR TO BE APPOINTED TO THE COMMITTEE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU ON BEING THE CHAIRMAN.
DOES THAT, IS THAT EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY OR IS THAT EFFECTIVE AT THE NEXT MEETING? JUST FOR CLARIFICATION,
WHERE DID WE MOVE ON? WE'RE GONNA START HERE NOW.
ARE WE READY TO CONTINUE? YES.
WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE AND OUR INTERPRETERS HAVE ASKED THAT WE CAN REMIND EVERYONE TO PLEASE SLOW DOWN, UM, BECAUSE HE'S INTERPRETING FOR BOTH SPANISH AND ENGLISH.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND INTRODUCE DENISE LEWIS AND JEFF SCHLANGER FROM AND INTEGR, SORRY, AND ASSURE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION AND COMMENTS ON THE MONTHLY STATS.
UM, DENISE IS GOING TO PRESENT THE STATS AND I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, SO DENISE, WITH THAT PLEASE.
UM, GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN THERE AS A REMINDER FOR THOSE, UM, THAT, THAT HAVEN'T SEEN THIS BEFORE OR, AND I'M GONNA SPEAK SLOW FOR THE INTERPRETER, BUT, UM, IT'S OCTOBER.
SO WE PRESENT STATISTICS FOR THE MONTH PRIOR.
SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER, UH, THIS MONTH.
AND WE, WE BASICALLY TALK ABOUT IT IN THREE CATEGORIES, USE OF FORCE, PURSUITS AND COMPLAINTS.
THE FIRST CATEGORY OF USE OF FORCE THAT THE IPA REVIEWED, UH, THERE WERE 17 INCIDENTS THAT WERE IN THE QUEUE THAT HAVE, HAVEN'T BEEN REVIEWED BUT ARE IN THE REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, THERE WERE SIX NEW USES OF FORCE DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED FOUR, UM, AND PUSHED THOSE TO, TO THE IPA FOR REVIEW.
WE REVIEWED SIX, UM, USES OF FORCE INVESTIGATIONS AND THERE WERE NO NECESSARY AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION THAT CAME OUT OF THOSE REVIEWS, MEANING THAT THE SUPERVISORY REVIEWS AND THE DEPARTMENT'S INTERNAL PROCESS, UM, CORRECTED ANY ISSUES THAT WERE, UM, THAT OCCURRED DURING THOSE INCIDENTS.
SO THERE WERE NO ADDITIONAL NECESSARY ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN.
THERE WERE FOUR PENDING INCIDENTS THAT ARE IN REVIEW.
THREE NEW PURSUITS THAT OCCURRED IN SEPTEMBER.
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REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND THREE ALSO REVIEWED BY US THE IPA.AND AGAIN, THERE WERE NO NECESSARY AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION WITH REGARD TO THE COMPLAINTS.
THERE WERE 14 THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE BEING REVIEWED.
SIX NEW COMPLAINTS, FOUR REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND SIX REVIEWED BY THE IPA.
AND AGAIN, NO NECESSARY AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION BASED ON OUR REVIEW.
SOME OF THE NOTES, UM, BELOW WE TALK, UM, JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THAT INFORMATION, I JUST RATTLED OFF IN THE USE OF FORCE CATEGORY FOUR OF THE SIX USES OF FORCE THAT WE REVIEWED WERE DISPLAY ONLY.
UM, THE TYPES OF FORCE THAT WERE USED, THE DISPLAYS WERE TASER, SO THE TASER NEEDED TO BE DISPLAYED TO GET COMPLIANCE, AND THEN THERE WERE PHYSICAL FORCE AND HANDS-ON.
THAT WAS THE, THE LEVEL OF FORCE THAT WAS USED IN THOSE INCIDENTS.
SO, SO IN REALLY A TWO, BECAUSE FOUR WERE DISPLAY WITH REGARD TO THE COMPLAINTS, THE ALLEGATIONS WERE FOR IMPROPER CONDUCT, HARASSMENT BIAS, AND SPEEDING ALL.
BUT ONE OF THOSE ALLEGATIONS, THE IMPROPER CONDUCT WERE EITHER SUSTAINED, NOT SUSTAINED OR EXONERATED.
SO THE IMPROPER CONDUCT WAS SUSTAINED, AND, UM, AGAIN, THERE WERE NO NECESSARY AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTIONS AS A RESULT OF OUR REVIEWS.
SO THAT'S IT FOR OUR STATISTICAL REPORTS.
JEFF, DO YOU WANNA MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT THE, THE FORMAT? YEAH, I THINK AS WE HEAD INTO THE NEW YEAR, WE ARE LOOKING, UM, AT OUR FORMAT, UH, ARE TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT A, A CHANGE OF FORMAT, UH, THAT WOULD PROVIDE GREATER INFORMATION, UH, TO THE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE.
AND, UH, SO SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO IN THE NEW YEAR.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE COMMITTEE? HI JEFF, THIS IS DANIELLE NELSON.
I HAVE JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION.
WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ROLLING TOTAL OF THE INCIDENTS PENDING REVIEW FOR TOTAL FOR 2026, WHY IS THAT NUMBER NOT POPULATED AT THE BOTTOM FOR THE FIRST COLUMN OF EVERY CATEGORY? I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THE TOTAL REALLY IS NOT REFLECTIVE OF A REAL NUMBER, RIGHT? IT'S NOT CUMULATIVE.
IT'S NOT CUMULATIVE, IT'S JUST, IT'S A SNAPSHOT OF THE PICTURE IN THAT MONTH.
SO, BUT IT, THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT A TOTAL NUMBER.
YOU CAN'T ADD THOSE UP AND COME UP WITH THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PENDING INCIDENTS UNDER TOTALS.
SOME OF THE, THE TOTAL, SORRY, GO AHEAD, JEFF.
THE, THE TOTALS IN THE OTHER COLUMNS ARE IN FACT TOTALS OF NEW USES OF FORCE.
SO ULTIMATELY WHEN WE GET THROUGH DECEMBER, THE TOTAL AT THE, AT THE BOTTOM LINE FOR USES OF FORCE WILL BE ACCURATE, AS WILL THE OTHERS.
UM, BUT THE INCIDENTS PENDING REVIEW, A A CASE MAY STAY THERE FOR MULTIPLE MONTHS FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS, AND THEREFORE THE TOTAL WOULD NOT BE AN ACCURATE TOTAL.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION.
AND SO IF THERE WAS A IMPROPER CONDUCT THAT WAS SUSTAINED, BUT THERE'S NO AGREED UPON, UH, COURSE OF ACTION, WHAT HAPPENS WITH A SUSTAINED, UM, A SUSTAINED COUNT? IT, IT'S UP TO THE CHIEF TO DECIDE WHAT DISCIPLINE I IS IMPOSED.
UM, THE PRESENCE OR ABSENCE OF A, AN ACA AS WE CALL THEM, AN AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION, UM, REALLY IS INDICATIVE ONLY OF WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF, UH, CAUGHT ANY SHORTCOMING.
UH, AND IF THEY DID, THEN THERE IS NO NEED FOR AN ACA.
IF THEY DIDN'T, UM, AND WE TALK ABOUT IT AND WE AGREE UPON A COURSE OF ACTION, UH, THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ACA.
BUT AGAIN, IT IS NOT INDICATIVE THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOT AN ACA, THAT THERE WERE NOT ANY TRAINING POINTS OR OTHER ISSUES.
AND WITH RESPECT TO COMPLAINTS,
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OUR REVIEW IS A REVIEW WHICH IS GEARED, UH, NOT FOR THE CONDUCT OF THE OFFICER, UH, HIM OR HERSELF, BUT RATHER RELATIVE TO THE INVESTIGATION OF THE ALLEGATION AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT ALLEGATION WAS INVESTIGATED IN A FULSOME AND, UH, FAIR MANNER WITHOUT ANY BIAS OR PREJUDICE AND LOOKING AT ALL OF THE EVIDENCE THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE.I HAVE ANOTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
THIS IS DANIELLE NELSON AGAIN.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE DATA IN SEPTEMBER OF 2026, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A USE OF DISPLAY OF FORCE TO BE REPRESENTED? IS PURSUIT AND COMPLAINT AS WELL, MEANING THAT IT WOULD SHOW UP IN ALL THREE CATEGORIES? YES, CERTAINLY WITH RESPECT TO USE OF FORCE AND PURSUIT, THAT HAPPENS NOT INFREQUENTLY.
IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL FOR IT TO SHOW UP IN THE SAME MONTH AS A COMPLAINT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE IT, THE INCIDENT COULD GIVE RISE TO A USE OF FORCE, UH, THAT OCCURRED, UH, WITHIN A PURSUIT AND THEN GIVE RISE TO A COMPLAINT AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
AND THEN MY FINAL QUESTION, I HOPE IS AS YOU ARE REVIEWING THIS WITH, UM, THE CHIEF AND LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF EXPLORE AND IMPROVE THE REPORTING, I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE THE TOTAL STAT OF OFFICER ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE'RE READING IS JUST THE NEGATIVE.
LIKE THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NO DATA FOR US TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S NEW USES OF FORCE.
OKAY, THERE WERE SIX IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, BUT IF THE OFFICERS MADE 2000 CONTACTS OR 3000 CONTACTS, WELL THEN THAT NUMBER SIX DOESN'T SEEM AS JARRING AT YES, IF THEY DID 10.
AND SO I THINK THAT TIED BACK TO THE GOOD WORK THAT OUR OFFICES ARE DOING IN OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE REPRESENTED IN THIS REPORTING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT COMPARISON.
YEAH, WE, WE AGREE WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, ARE LOOKING TO, TO PUT IN THE REPORT.
IT IS IN ACADEMIA REFERRED TO AS A DENOMINATOR, WHICH, UH, WHICH THEN CAN BE USED IN EXACTLY THE WAY YOU SUGGEST TO, TO, UH, UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, THE RATIO OF USES OF FORCE TO CONTACTS OR ARRESTS OR WHATEVER THAT THAT NUMBER MIGHT BE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
SIR, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
MY NAME IS, UH, MARCUS HOLTON.
UM, LOOKING AT ALL THESE, UH, APPLICATIONS OF PHYSICAL FORCE OR, UH, FORCE IN GENERAL ARE SOME OF THEM FROM THE SAME INCIDENT, MEANING, UH, THERE WAS A VEHICLE PURSUIT AND THEN AS A RESULT OF A VEHICLE PURSUIT, THERE'S A DISPLAY OF THE TASER OR THERE IS SOME TYPE OF APPLICATION OF PHYSICAL FORCE? YEAH.
AGAIN, THAT COULD IN FACT HAPPEN.
THE CHART OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T SHOW THAT THE NEW FORMAT THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING WOULD ALLOW THAT TO BE ASCERTAINED.
UM, SO THE ANSWER IS YES, IT, IT'S NOT UNLIKELY THAT THAT DOES HAPPEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT HAPPENED, UH, IN SEPTEMBER SPECIFICALLY, BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY INSTANCES WITHIN THIS CHART WHERE THERE'S BOTH A USE OF FORCE AND A, UH, THAT OCCURS AFTER A PURSUIT.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, WITH THESE, THESE USE OF FORCES, UM, ARE THEY ALL RESULTING IN AN ARREST? MAYBE THAT'S THE ANSWER QUESTION FOR THE PD, BUT WELL, A USE OF FORCE DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO, UH, RESULT IN AN ARREST.
BUT THEORETICALLY, A USE OF FORCE FORCE MAY BE USED TO DIS DETAIN SOMEBODY WHO THEN IS, UH, NOT ARRESTED.
BUT IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF INSTANCES, IT DOES
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IN FACT REPRESENT A, AN INCIDENT IN WHICH THERE WAS EITHER A CITATION OR AN ARREST.AND PLEASE CHIEF, IF YOU HAVE MORE TO ADD TO THAT, PLEASE DO.
NO, THAT THAT'S A FAIR ASSESSMENT.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE ARE APPLICATIONS OF FORCE, BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY INFREQUENT.
BUT AS, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WE DO ENCOUNTER PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, UM, PSYCHIATRIC NEED OR, OR A MENTAL HEALTH DISTRESS, AND WE MAY HAVE TO DO A, A PHYSICAL RESTRAINT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, UM, UH, THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS A USE OF FORCE IF WE'RE USING SOMETHING, UM, IN, IN A HIGHER DEGREE THAN JUST SIMPLE HANDCUFFING TO RESTRAIN THEM, UM, AND SUPPORT GETTING 'EM OVER TO OUR, OUR, UH, OUR HOSPITAL.
AND SO IF THAT'S A REQUIREMENT THERE, WE WOULD DOCUMENT IT AS A USE OF FORCE AND AS PART OF THAT TRANSPORT SERVICE.
AND THEN AS WE, UM, OR IF WE'RE ABLE TO TRANSITION THAT INTO JUST A CIVIL DETENTION FOR A PSYCHIATRIC HOLD, UM, CLEARLY THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, RESULT IN AN ARREST IF IT WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T NEED TO BE HANDLED IN THAT, THAT NATURE.
BUT WE WOULD STILL DOCUMENT IT IN AS A, UH, USE OF FORCE IN OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, UM, DOCUMENTATION.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE TREATED AND DOCUMENTED IN OUR REPORT WRITING SYSTEMS AS A, AS A CIVIL DETENTION, UM, KIND OF INFORMATIONAL REPORT, UM, FOR, FOR THOSE DOCUMENTATION NEEDS.
UM, BUT IT WOULD BE MEMORIALIZED AND DISPLAYED IN THIS INFORMATION AS A USE OF FORCE.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD NOT, UM, BE CAPTURED AND IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING IF YOU WERE, UM, ASSUMING THAT IT WAS KIND OF A, A CRIMINAL VIOLATION AND A USE OF FORCE TIED TO TO THAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, NOW HERE, I, IN THE PURSUIT COLUMN, THE VERY LAST ONE, IT SAYS RELATED ACAS PURSUITS.
THERE IS ZEROS AND THEN THERE'S, UM, IT'S JULY, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHICH ONE IT IS.
JUNE AND AUGUST HAVE DASH MARKS.
IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DASH, UM, MARK AND A ZERO? NO, THOSE SHOULD BE ZEROS AS WELL.
DENISE WANTS TO, I WAS GONNA SAY, WELL, DENISE, YEAH,
YEAH,
SO BECAUSE THERE, THERE WERE NO ACAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REVIEW ANY.
SO IN THE FUTURE YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT FOR THE, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC TO PUT IT A 'CAUSE IT GETS CONFUSING.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
AND THEN MAYBE EVEN PUT IT DOWN IN WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, AN ASTERISK JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, DENISE, THIS IS DANIELLE NELSON AGAIN.
AND REAL QUICK, JUST ON JANUARY, SAME SUBJECT MATTER, THERE, WERE ZERO IN THE QUEUE, BUT IT HAS ZERO RELATED, SO WE JUST WANNA HAVE CONSISTENCY ON THE REPORT IF POSSIBLE FOR THE NEXT FOR SURE MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? WONDERFUL.
WELL, UM, IF THAT ENDS OUR PRESENTATION FROM, UM, DENISE AND JEFF, WE WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY ON AND WATCH MY INTRODUCTION HERE, OR YOU CAN HOP OFF AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHERE WE RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE EMERGENCY OP ON THE EMERGENCY OPERATION PROCESS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PETALUMA EMERGENCY MANAGER, TOM JORDAN, WHO WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION.
SO WELCOME TOM, IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.
UM, AND BEFORE TOM BEGINS, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY.
UM, I, I THINK WE'RE GONNA LET TOM PRESENT FIRST AND THEN WE WILL OPEN IT FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND THEN ONCE HIS PRESENT PRESENTATION IS
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COMPLETE, THEN WE'LL ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT AFTER THAT.AND THEN WE'LL GIVE IT, BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COMMITTEE FOR, FOR FURTHER COMMENT.
THAT'S PROBABLY A VERY GOOD IDEA.
'CAUSE TOM, YOU NEED TO PRESENT FIRST, SO WE'LL GET THAT RIGHT NEXT TIME.
AND ALSO ONE MORE INTERRUPTION.
SORRY, WE JUST ALSO HAD A SPEAKER CARD FOR, UM, AGENDA ITEM THREE, SO WE CAN DO THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER AS WELL.
GOOD EVENING, ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS TOM JORDAN AND I SERVE THE CITY OF PETALUMA AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER.
I'VE WORKED UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN CHIEF SHOCK.
TODAY I'M GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT HOW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS WORK IN THE CITY AND WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS.
I'LL SPEAK TO WHAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, SHOULD KNOW AND DO RELATED TO DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE AND RECOVERY.
AND I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT RELATED STORM SEASON PREPAREDNESS.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTION PLANS AND COORDINATES, AND A CITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
WE MAINTAIN AN UPDATE, A PORTFOLIO OF PROJECTS, PROGRAMS, AND PLANS RELATED TO DISASTER RESPONSE, RECOVERY PREPAREDNESS, AND SOMETIMES MOST IMPORTANTLY, MITIGATION.
WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOOKING AT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OPERATIONS, GRANTS, BUDGETS, AND WE DEVELOP AND COORDINATE EDUCATIONAL AND TRAINING PROGRAMS AND PROMOTE COMMUNITY DISASTER RESILIENCE THROUGH PREPAREDNESS, MITIGATION RESPONSE AND RECOVERY OPERATIONS, AND PERFORM RELATED WORK AS REQUIRED.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE OPERATIONAL AREA OR THE OA AND THE STATE.
ON THE LEFT IS A GRAPHIC WHICH IDENTIFIES THE FIVE LAYERS OF WHAT WE CALL THE STANDARDIZED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OR STEMS. THOSE FIVE LEVELS INCLUDE FIELD, LOCAL GOVERNMENT, OR CITY WHERE WE'RE AT THE OPERATIONAL AREA AND COUNTY, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN IN A MOMENT.
OUR STATE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND THE REGION, THE STATE, AND ULTIMATELY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THE LAYERS OF SIMS ARE A MATTER OF THE STANDARDIZED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, AND SUCH ARE CODIFIED INTO STATE LAW.
AT OUR LEVEL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE PRIMARILY COORDINATE WITH WHAT IS CALLED THE OPERATIONAL AREA OR THE COUNTY.
THE OPERATIONAL AREA IS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE COUNTY OF SONOMA, INCLUDING ALL OF THE POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN IT.
THAT INCLUDES WATER DISTRICTS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AND OF COURSE CITIES AND TOWNS.
SO WHEN WE DISCUSS THE OPERATIONAL AREA AND THE COUNTY, WE'RE OFTEN SPEAKING OF THE SAME GEOSPATIAL AREA, BUT DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
I'M SORRY, COULD WE GO BACK ONE PLEASE? OH, I BEG PARDON? THERE WAS A CHANGE.
THIS GRAPHIC REPRESENTS, UH, WE ARE AT THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THIS GRAPHIC REPRESENTS A BIT OF SCALE.
UM, OFTENTIMES WHEN PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL MAY PRESENTATIONS TO THE PUBLIC, WE TRY TO GIVE A SENSE OF SCALE.
IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO A LARGE SPORTING EVENT, YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN AN ARENA FILLED WITH 60 OR 70,000 PEOPLE.
USING THAT ANALOGY, WE COULD CONSIDER THE 60 OR TH 70,000 RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO THE CITY THIS EVENING.
AND THE RELATIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF FIELD PERSONNEL DOING SAFETY WORK, THE UPPER LEFT HAND PORTION OF THE GRAPHIC IS INTENDED TO REPRESENT THOSE FIELD PERSONNEL, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTER, EMS, AND IN A STORM RESPONSE.
OUR PARTNERS WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THE WATER RESOURCES AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS AS THOSE FIELD PERSONNEL ARE SUPPORTED BY A MUCH BROADER WORKFORCE OF OUR REGULAR CITY DISASTER SERVICE WORKERS.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THEY NEED COORDINATION FROM WHAT IS CALLED AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER OR AN EOC.
THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER STAFF, WHILE SMALLER THAN FIELD SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES, REPRESENTS A HIGH LEVEL ABILITY FOR THE CITY GOVERNMENT TO COORDINATE CROSS-DEPARTMENTALLY AND A RESPONSE POSTURE WHILE STILL ADHERING TO ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND PROTOCOLS.
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THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPHIC INDICATES SOME INFORMATION ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAINING THAT WE PROVIDE, AND I'LL SPEAK TO THAT MORE IN A MOMENT.IN ORDER, IN ORDER TO PERFORM IN THIS SPACE, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE VARYING TYPES OF RISKS AND DISASTERS.
OFTENTIMES, WE CONSIDER THE MOST PREVALENT DISASTERS IN OUR AREA, AND THE LEFT HAND PORTION OF THIS SLIDE HAS A GRAPHIC WITH PICTOGRAPHS REPRESENTING SOME OF THOSE.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT IS OUR CONSISTENT APPROACH TOWARDS DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE, RECOVERY, AND PLANNING, REGARDLESS OF THE NATURE OF THE THREAT.
AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF DETERMINING RISK IS THE HAZARD.
WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT PROCESSES TO ADDRESS HAZARDS.
OUR MOST FORMAL PROCESS IS SOMETHING CALLED A HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.
THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN ENDEAVORS TO IDENTIFY AND PROFILE HAZARDS OF NATURAL CAUSES, AND TO EVALUATE WHO AND WHAT IS EXPOSED TO RISK FROM THOSE HAZARDS, THE CONSEQUENCES, AND HOW WE MIGHT AS AN ORGANIZATION RESPOND.
REGARDLESS OF THE NATURE OF THE THREAT, OUR HAZARD RESPONSE PROCESS STAYS RELATIVELY THE SAME AND FOLLOWS WHAT'S A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ORGANIZATIONAL MODEL CALLED THE PLANNING P? IF YOU LOOK AT THE GRAPHIC ON THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE A WORKFLOW WHICH REPRESENTS THE LETTER P.
IF YOU START AT THE BOTTOM OR THE STEM OF THE LETTER P, AND YOU WORK UP AND AROUND IT, YOU'LL SEE DEMONSTRATED THE SERIES OF EVENTS, UM, INCLUDING BRIEFINGS, PLANNING MEETINGS, AND OPERATIONS THAT ARE THAT RESPONSE CYCLE, REGARDLESS OF THE NATURE OF THE THREAT.
AN INTERESTING ASPECT OF THE PLANNING P IS THAT ONCE THE ACTIVITIES IN THE STEM OF THE P ARE WORKED THROUGH, THEN THAT CYCLE CONTINUES CIRCULARLY LIKE AN O UNTIL THE NATURE OF THE THREAT, I'M SORRY, UNTIL THE DISPOSITION OF THE THREAT IS SUCH THAT IT'S STABLE AND WE NO LONGER NEED TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE.
I SPOKE ABOUT SOME RISKS AND, UM, WHAT WE FACE REGULARLY HERE, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WORLD IS HOW OUR RESPONSE FOR LET'S SAY ROUTINE DISASTERS CAN BE QUITE DIFFERENT THAN MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THE BIG ONE.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT LIVING IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, OUR CLOSEST EXPERIENCE TO THE BIG ONE WAS THE, UM, COVID-19 PANDEMIC ON THE BASIS THAT A LOT OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WERE CHALLENGED.
FUNDAMENTAL ASSU ASSUMPTIONS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GO BACK TO THE STANDARDIZED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT I DESCRIBED EARLIER, AND THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO CALL ON AND NEAR REAL-TIME RECEIVE RESOURCES DURING A RESPONSE IN THE BIG ONE, BE IT ANOTHER PANDEMIC OR A CATASTROPHIC EARTHQUAKE, WHICH WE'VE NOT EXPERIENCED IN OUR REGION FOR OVER 100 YEARS YET IS PREDICTED TO OCCUR, IS GONNA CHALLENGE MANY ASSUMPTIONS REGARDING NOT ONLY RESPONSE OPERATIONS AND PLANNING, BUT ALSO LOGISTICS AND THE FINANCES BEHIND THOSE.
I REALIZE IT'S A RELATIVELY COMPLICATED GRAPHIC, BUT I WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE SOME OF THE FLOWS IN RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH OTHER ENTITIES IN THE OVERALL RESPONSE PICTURE.
I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IN THE FACE OF NATURAL DISASTER IS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF STAYING INFORMED REAL TIME.
THERE ARE ARE MANY DIFFERENT INFORMATION SOURCES AVAILABLE TO DISASTER RESPONSE PLANNERS AND OUR GENERAL PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF, AND WE UTILIZE MANY OF THOSE SYSTEMS AS THEY COME FROM ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE MANY MORE CAPABILITIES THAN WE DO LOCALLY.
AN EXAMPLE IS THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND THEIR ABILITY TO ISSUE WEATHER RELATED PRODUCTS OR ADVISORIES, AS WE MIGHT CALL THEM.
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UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF THESE RESOURCES REQUIRE ELECTRICAL POWER AND INTERNET CONNECTIVITY, AND SO IN THE CITY, WE ENDEAVOR TO BE ABLE TO STAY INFORMED REAL TIME THROUGH OTHER MEANS AS WELL.COMMONLY, DURING THESE PRESENTATIONS, WE PUT OUT A CALL TO ACTION TO THE PUBLIC.
WHAT DO I DO? WHAT'S AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION? I, AS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL CITY DISASTER SERVICE WORKER, THE FIRST RECOMMENDED STEP IS TO BE INFORMED.
SOURCES FOR INFORMATION INCLUDE PREPAREDNESS PROGRAMS SUCH AS READY.GOV PREPAREDNESS INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF PETALUMA ON OUR WEBSITE AND PRE INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO SONOMA COUNTY PROVIDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
WITH THAT INFORMATION, RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ARE ENCOURAGED TO MAKE A PLAN, A PLAN, NOT JUST FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, BUT FOR EVERYONE THAT THEY MIGHT LIVE WITH OR WITHIN THEIR FA FRIEND AND FAMILY CIRCLE.
MUCH FOCUS IS OFTEN MADE ON DEVELOPING A PREPAREDNESS KIT.
I WOULD SUGGEST, HOWEVER, THAT TRUE RESILIENCE IS MUCH MORE THAN A KIT, AND IT GOES BACK TO THAT PLANNING AND INCORPORATION OF INDIVIDUALS IN YOUR LIVES, FRIENDS OR FAMILY THAT MAY NEED SPECIAL ASSISTANCE DURING A DISASTER, AND HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST THEM DIRECTLY.
THERE ARE MANY RESOURCES FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO LEARN HOW TO HELP EACH OTHER OUT BEYOND BUILDING A KIT BEYOND HOUSEHOLD PREPAREDNESS.
THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS A CORNUCOPIA OF, UM, DIFFERENT PROJECT PROGRAMS, RATHER THAT, UM, WERE AT ONE TIME OR ARE CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE.
AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OVERLAP.
MULTIPLE PROGRAMS MIGHT, FOR INSTANCE, TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR FIRST AID AND CPR PREPAREDNESS, WHILE IN FACT IT'S THE MANDATE OF FEW PROGRAM.
THE CITY IS DEVELOPING A NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCE GROUP PROGRAM OR NRG AND INTENDS NOT TO REPLACE OR DUPLICATE ANY OF THE PROGRAMS REPRESENTED ON THIS SLIDE, BUT INSTEAD FILL IN A NICHE SPOT IN BETWEEN PERSONAL AND HOUSEHOLD PREPAREDNESS AND THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM, WHICH HAS A RESPONSE EXPECTATION FOR EVENTS OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCE GROUP MODEL QUALIFIES A NEIGHBORHOOD AS SMALL GROUP OF HOMES AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN CHECK ON EACH OTHER, PARTICULARLY CHECKING ON INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE MORE VULNERABILITIES, I'M SORRY, THAT HAVE VULNERABILITIES THAT WILL LEAD TO MORE RISK RELATED TO ANY GIVEN SCENARIO.
PRESEASON STORM PREPAREDNESS OBVIOUSLY GOES BEYOND THE CITY AND INDIVIDUALS OR FAMILIES.
TRADITIONALLY IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND GLOBALLY, COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, BE THEY FAITH-BASED OR NEIGHBOR BASED, GENERALLY PICK UP A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LOAD, NOT JUST IN PREPAREDNESS, BUT IN RESPONSE.
TWO, COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS PRESENTATION ARE KPCA 1 0 3 0.3, OUR COMMUNITY BROADCAST RADIO, AND THE CAPABILITY TO PROVIDE HYPER-LOCAL INFORMATION RELATED TO A DISASTER IN THE MOMENTS.
JUST AFTERWARDS, ONE OF THE EFFECTS OF A SIGNIFICANT NATURAL DISASTER WILL BE A LEVELING OF THE PLAYING PLAYING FIELD REGARDING TECHNOLOGY.
WHILE IT'S MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR US TO ACCESS INFORMATION USING OUR MOBILE PHONES AND ALL THE INTERNET SYSTEMS BEHIND THOSE, THERE ARE MANY SCENARIOS, SOME OF WHICH WERE DESCRIBED IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT WILL MAKE THOSE DEVICES IN OPERABLE.
HAVING A LOCAL FM BROADCAST CAPABILITY ALLOWS FOR THE CITY AND TRUSTED PARTNERS TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
FURTHER UNDER REBUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA, A NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCE GROUP MODEL IS BEING DEVELOPED.
THIS MODEL IS NOT INTENDED TO CREATE ANY NEW PRACTICES, BUT RATHER CELEBRATE BEST PRACTICES OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSEHOLD PREPAREDNESS WITH EACH OTHER FOR MANY YEARS, IF NOT DECADES.
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INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FORMALIZE THAT PREPAREDNESS AND THOSE NETWORKS, WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY AND CELEBRATE BEST PRACTICES AND GIVE THE BA BASIC BUILDING BLOCKS TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MIGHT WANT TO AUGMENT OR IMPROVE THEIR CURRENT MODEL OR DEVELOP A NEW ONE THEMSELVES.I SPOKE GENERALLY ABOUT THE TRAINING THAT OUR CITY STAFF UNDERGOES FOR DISASTER PREPAREDNESS.
THIS SLIDE SPEAKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TO PREPARE FOR THE UPCOMING STORM SEASON.
I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THIS TRAINING THAT WE DO FOR THE STORM SEASON IS TRAINING THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR FOR A STORM SEASON.
WE HAVE AUGMENTED SOME OF THAT TRAINING BASED ON NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WEATHER SYSTEMS THAT ARE EXPECTED, BUT THE MODEL STAYS THE SAME.
WE LOOK AT OUR DEPARTMENT SUPPORT FIRST.
THOSE ARE OUR DISASTER SERVICE WORKERS.
EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE AND EMPLOYEES OF ALL THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTY ARE, AS A MATTER OF LAW DISASTER SERVICE WORKERS.
THAT DESIGNATION ALONE DOESN'T MAKE THEM A UTILIZABLE RESOURCE AND A DISASTER TRAINING, UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEY FIT WITHIN THEIR OPERATIONS AND AD HOC COMMAND AND CONTROL STRUCTURES DO.
ASIDE FROM GENERAL DISASTER SERVICE WORKER TRAINING, WE ALSO LOOK AT OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER STAFF AND HOW THEY NEED SPECIAL TRAINING.
EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER TRAINING GENERALLY BREAKS DOWN INTO THE CATEGORIES OR SECTIONS OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER ITSELF, MANAGEMENT, OPERATIONS, PLANNING, LOGISTICS, AND FINANCE.
WE ALSO PLACE A VERY LARGE EMPHASIS ON OUR ABILITY TO GENERATE PUBLIC INFORMATION MESSAGING FROM THE EOC AND OUR ABILITY TO LIAISE BOTH WITHIN THE CITY AND WITH THE OPERATIONAL AREA PARTNERS.
AND FINALLY, ON THE UPPER LEFT HAND SIDE OF THAT VENN DIAGRAM, UM, YOU'LL SEE, SEE FIELD OPERATIONS.
ONE OF THE NEW PRACTICES THAT THE CITY'S BEEN ENGAGING IN FOR A FEW YEARS NOW IS TO TAKE OUR FIELD LEVEL SUPERVISORS, BE THEY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, WATER RESOURCES, UTILITIES, FIRE, EMS OR LAW, AND LOOK AT HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO INFORMA SHARE INFORMATION AND RESOURCES AT THE FIELD SUPERVISOR LEVEL, AND HOW THEY CAN SHARE INFORMATION OR REQUEST RESOURCES WITH THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.
A LITTLE OF A SCENARIO DISCUSSION.
UM, LOOKING AT THE SONOMA OPERATIONAL AREA, UM, WE'VE SEEN CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE CITY WHERE WE NEED TO SUPPORT MASS EVACUATIONS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP THEY'VE BEEN DISPLACED, UM, MAYBE DUE TO A FIRE, AND WE'RE A HOST RECIPIENT COMMUNITY.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE CATASTROPHIC EARTHQUAKE, WHERE WE CAN ENVISION NOT ONLY MUCH OF OUR OPERATIONAL AREA PARTNERSHIP IMPACTED, BUT THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SHARE RESOURCES AND INFORMATION.
AND FINALLY LOOKING AT A SCENARIO WHERE THERE HAS BEEN NO INFRASTRUCTURE DAMAGE, THERE ARE NO EVACUEES YET, WE NEED TO ACTIVATE MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE A PANDEMIC AND THE NEED TO DO MASS PROPHYLAXIS AND TESTING.
I MOVED SWIFTLY THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION.
I WANTED TO LEAVE TIME FOR QUESTION AND ANSWER ABOUT THE THREE TOPICS ABOUT OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS IN GENERAL AT THE CITY LEVEL, THE OPERATIONAL AREA, THE STATE AND FEDERAL, WHAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOULD KNOW AND DO, AND THEN ALSO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BASED PLANNING FOR THE STORM SEASON.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, MADAM CHAIR, I'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.
IT WAS VERY THOROUGH AND I THINK THAT YOUR PACE SETS AN EXAMPLE FOR HOW WE CAN PACE TO HELP SUPPORT OUR INTERPRETERS.
SO I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO ASK QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT THE EMS, UH, SYSTEMS IN PLAY.
I KNOW WITH THE WEATHER, UM, APPROACHING AND CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, IF WE HAVE DIRECT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AS WELL, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO ASK TOM WHILE HE IS HERE.
UM, SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS, AND I'M GONNA FOCUS ON WEATHER, UM, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WELL, FOR THOSE OF YOU DO NOT KNOW, I OPERATE A BUSINESS THAT RUNS ALONG THE PETALUMA RIVER, UM, ON THE NORTH END.
SO RECENTLY, UH, WE WERE EXPLORING
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SANDBAGS, RIGHT? IN THE EVENT THAT WE GET FLOODING.AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, SOME OF THE CENTERS THAT HAVE SANDBAGS FOR THE COMMUNITY ARE GEARED MORE SO FOR RESIDENTS AND NOT FOR BUSINESSES.
SO FROM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A BUSINESS COMMUNITY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT RESOURCES, AND EVEN IN THE PRESENTATION, IT REALLY CENTERED A LITTLE BIT ON PREPAREDNESS WITH FRIENDS, FAMILIES, ET CETERA, AND HAVING THESE, UM, SORT OF GO KITS.
BUT I THINK IT'S EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT FOR BUSINESSES TO BE PREPARED BECAUSE IN THE EVENT OF A DISASTER, THEY NEED DISASTER PREPAREDNESS IN ORDER TO EVACUATE OR SHELTER IN PLAY, UM, IN PLACE.
AND SO CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE A FEW TIPS AND TRICKS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY? ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION AND IT, IT HIGHLIGHTS A GAP IN MY PRESENTATION.
IN FACT, UM, I SPOKE TO THE NEED FOR THE WHOLE ONE PETALUMA TO GET TOGETHER WHEN WE HAVE A BIG DISASTER.
AND I SPOKE ABOUT COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, FAITH-BASED, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THEMSELVES, AND OF COURSE THE CITY GOVERNMENT.
CERTAINLY OUR BUSINESSES ARE A BIG PART OF ALL THAT COORDINATION AND THE RESPONSE.
UM, THERE ARE A, IT'S A BROAD QUESTION.
I'LL SPEAK A BIT HIGH LEVEL TO IT WITH SOME SPECIFICITY TO THE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE AS WELL.
UM, I WOULD SUBMIT FOR CONSIDERATION THAT THERE IS A, A VERY IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BETWEEN, UM, HARDENING OF A BUILDING OR OF A SITE, UM, PRE-STORM AND THEN EMERGENCY FLOOD FIGHTING.
UM, THE INTENT, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I'M WORKING IN, IN, UM, IN GOVERNMENT HERE WITH THE CITY OF PETALUMA, UM, AND ANOTHER GOVERNMENT CAPACITIES PRIOR, UM, IS THAT OFTENTIMES THOSE SANDBAG CACHES FOR THE PUBLIC ARE INTENDED FOR EMERGENCY FLOOD FIGHTING.
WE DO PROMOTE THEM KIND OF ADVANCE, GET AHEAD OF IT IF YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN'T GET TO THE HARDWARE STORE KIND OF THING.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF GUIDANCE THAT CAN BE PROVIDED FOR BUSINESSES ON HOW THEY CAN HARDEN THEIR FACILITIES.
UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SANDBAGS ALONE AND SANDBAGS AND VISQUEEN, FOR INSTANCE, AROUND ROLL-UP DOORS IS A, IS A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE.
UM, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE WORK THAT THE CITY HAS DONE TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT HARM.
AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS OUR HAZARD MITIGATION.
UM, WE'VE SEEN BUSINESSES ON THE NORTH END OF TOWN, UM, ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL STRIP THERE THAT USED TO GET CYCLICAL WINTERTIME FLOODING IN THEIR ROLL UP DOORS.
UH, MITIGATION PROJECT WAS PUT IN PLACE, THE DENMAN REACH MITIGATION PROJECT.
AND THAT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF FLOODING THAT SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES HAVE.
I THINK WHAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D HIGHLIGHT IS THE IMPORTANCE FOR ALL ORGANIZATIONS OF ANY TYPE TO HAVE SOME DISASTER RESPONSE PLANNING AND TO FOCUS THAT PLANNING ON THEIR PEOPLE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A JARGONISTIC KIND OF A ANSWER THAT YOU MIGHT GET FROM A BUREAUCRAT FOCUS ON YOUR PEOPLE.
BUT I MEAN THAT IN EARNEST, AND I MEAN IT IN A VERY SERIOUS WAY, STAFF ACCOUNTABILITY AND STAFF SUPPORT DURING DISASTER INCIDENTS IS, IS HYPER IMPORTANT.
NOT JUST TO GIVE THE EMPLOYEES A SENSE OF BELONGING WITH THE ORGANIZATION, BUT ALSO FOR THAT ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TAKE NEXT STEPS TO OPERATIONS.
AS WITH SOME OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE WITH COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, I THINK THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MUCH OF THAT PLANNING OVERHEAD TO BE SHARED FOR BEST PRACTICES TO BE CELEBRATED.
I'D BE VERY INTERESTED AND HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF YOUR BUSINESS AND BUSINESS PARTNERS THAT YOU WORK WITH.
UM, WE'VE DONE THAT WITH SOME OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE CITY.
UM, AND I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO LEARN, UM, NOT ONLY WHAT COULD BE PROVIDED AS FAR AS BEST PRACTICES, UM, BUT ALSO PERHAPS SOME OF THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS, WHICH CAN BE TRANSLATED TO BEST PRACTICES FOR OTHERS.
UM, I CAN SAY THAT MY BUSINESS HAS A, A VERY DETAILED AND THOROUGH EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLAN AND STRATEGY AND EVACUATION
UM, BUT I DO KNOW HAVING EXPERIENCED A FEW RECENT INCIDENCES WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AT ONE OF MY OTHER BUSINESSES, IT WAS CLEAR THAT IN THE MOMENT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, EVERYTHING WENT OUT THE WINDOW.
UM, AND IT WAS A REMINDER OF THE IMPORTANCE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY IN OUR COMMUNICATION AND ONGOING COMMUNICATION AND TRAINING TO HELP THOSE BUSINESSES.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO MAYBE ENGAGE AS WE CONTINUE TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND BRING IN NEW BUSINESSES TO OFFER TO HAVE, AS YOU RECOMMENDED, A BEST IN CLASS.
SURE, WE ALREADY DO THAT WITH A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS, BUT MAYBE WE CAN SOMEHOW TRANSCEND THAT OVER TO BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT NOT BE MAJOR CORPORATIONS, BUT THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM BASIC
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PREPAREDNESS.THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE EXPERTS, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF PREPAREDNESS GOES A LONG WAY.
IT COULD EVEN BE THE WEBSITES THAT WERE RECOMMENDATION FOR MONITORING EMERGENCIES SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SENDING THEIR PEOPLE RIGHT INTO IT AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A CONSIDERATION.
SO JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT FROM A, FROM THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THINGS, I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GET GREATER COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY? UM, ON, ON THAT SAME SUBJECT, TOM, DO YOU EVER GO TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND SPEAK TO THEIR BOARD? 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO START WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAVING, UH, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKSHOPS AND, AND THEY COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO REACH OUT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND, AND GET IN FRONT OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, THIS STORM IS COMING.
WE'VE ALSO DONE A TON OF CREEK WORK WITH, UM, A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.
SO I, I KNOW THE CITY HAS SENT OUT SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, VIDEO CLIPS OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ALONG WASHINGTON STREET.
AND THEN I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME EVEN OVER BY THE MCDOWELL BEHIND THE POULTRY PRODU PRODUCERS THAT CREEK I, THAT'S ADOBE CREEK, UM, FARTHER SOUTH.
AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF CORONA IS GETTING THE SAME WORK.
I HAVEN'T BEEN CLOSE ENOUGH TO SEE IF THAT, 'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA AFFECT WHERE YOUR BUSINESS IS ON PELOMA BOULEVARD NORTH.
SO IF WE GET THAT CREEK, IF WE GET IN FRONT OF IT AND REMOVE THE, THE VEGETATION, THAT SHOULD HELP THE WATER FLOW BETTER TOO.
BUT MILL VALLEY'S ALREADY FLOODING, SO, AND THAT'S WHAT JUST THE KING'S TIDE, SO WE'VE GOTTA GET IN FRONT OF IT FOR PETALUMA.
COUNCIL MEMBER, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
UM, UH, DIRECTLY I'VE NOT SPOKEN, UM, TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH MANY BUSINESS LEADERS THROUGH SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS PRESENTING AT ROTARY AND, AND THE SO FORTH.
UM, I, I, I WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE THAT THERE'S SPACE.
UM, I CAN WORK WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS TO LOOK AT, UM, HOW A BUSINESS DEZI DISASTER RESILIENCE NETWORK KIND OF THING MIGHT WORK, UM, WHERE WE COULD, UM, SHARE BEST PRACTICES AROUND INFORMATION AND SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, GET THOSE RESOURCES IN THE HANDS OF FOLKS, AND THEN LOOK AT THINGS LIKE EMERGENCY STAFFING PLANNED OR CALL OUT PHONE TREES, UM, TO REALLY GIVE THEM TOOLS THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE NOT ONLY TO GET BACK UP ON THEIR FEET AND IN BUSINESS AGAIN AFTER THE DISASTER, BUT POTENTIALLY TO HELP AS PART OF THE RESPONSE.
UM, I'LL LEAVE THE QUESTIONS REGARDING A CREEK MAINTENANCE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY TO, TO TO, UM, BETTER QUALIFIED FOLKS, UM, WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND WATER RESOURCE AND UTILITIES.
BUT AS YOU POINTED OUT, UM, IT IS A VERY, IT'S A FASCINATING PROBLEM.
ONE OF THE FIRST MAPS I LOOKED AT WHEN I TOOK THIS JOB WITH THE CITY WAS OUR CREEK FLOW MAP.
AND IT'S A, IT'S FASCINATING TO SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE ON THAT MAP, BE THEY THE, THE CITY OF THE COUNTY OR, OR THE WATER DISTRICT.
BUT ABSOLUTELY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THE, THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA SITE, THEY'VE BEEN LISTING WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THOSE JURIS, THOSE OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
'CAUSE THERE'S ONE CREEK CAN HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS.
AND, AND IF I COULD, I WOULD ALSO, I MIGHT POINT TO, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN THE PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE FOR YOU IN COUNCIL ON STORM SEASON PREPAREDNESS.
I SAT HERE, UM, WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND WATER RESOURCE UTILITIES FOLKS, AND THEY GAVE A, THEY GAVE A VERY, JUST AS YOU DID, A VERY KIND OF ARTICULATE BREAKDOWN OF, OF WHAT THE SITUATION IS AND HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.
YEAH, I, I WOULD JUST ADD TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE GRAZING PROGRAMS FROM THE WILDLAND FIRE MITIGATION, UM, MANY OF THOSE, UH, UH, EXTEND INTO SOME OF THOSE SENSITIVE, UH, HABITAT AREAS INTO THE WATERWAYS AS WELL.
THEY'RE CLEARING THAT, THAT VEGETATION OUT OF THOSE SAME AREAS.
YOU TOUCHED ON THE CREEK WAYS.
I THINK THEY'RE UP IN WESTRIDGE, UH, THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, OUR, OUR OUTREACH TEAM AND OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE ALSO DOING SOME OF THAT WORK.
WE'VE BEEN, UM, WORKING IN ADVANCE OF THESE STORM SEASONS, TRYING TO MAKE END ROADS TO SOME OF OUR, UM, UNHOUSED COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT MAY BE IN SOME OF THESE SAME AREAS.
MAKING SURE THAT TRASH AND OTHER DEBRIS AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO OUR WATERWAYS OR THAT MAY ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THOSE ISSUES IS GETTING CLEARED OUT AND CLEARED OUT.
ALSO, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT PUTTING THEMSELVES IN HARM'S WAY OR EXPOSURE ISSUES OR CREATING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION THEMSELVES.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH, UM, THE EMERGENCY MANAGER ON IS WHETHER
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YOU'RE IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITY MEMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THAT PREPAREDNESS PIECE.AND SO, UH, MAKING SURE YOUR BUSINESS CONTACT INFORMATION IS CURRENT AND UPDATED SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOUR, BOTH YOUR EMPLOYEES AND YOUR BUSINESS OWNERS ARE GETTING THOSE INFORMATION AND THOSE PUSH UPDATES IS IN ADVANCE.
WE TRY TO DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF SHARING ADVISORY AND INFORMATION.
AND SO SOMETIMES IT SEEMS A LITTLE COUNTERINTUITIVE THAT THE RAIN IS COMING, BUT NORMALLY WHEN WE START WARNING ABOUT THE RAIN IS COMING, IT'S FOR A REASON AND WE'RE, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THERE'S WATER ON THE ROADWAY.
UM, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER ON THE ROADWAY.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE CONCERNED AND KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE, UM, LOCALIZED FLOODING ISSUES AND WE HAVE A TIDAL SLEW HERE IN PETALUMA, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT KING TIDES AND, UM, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTORS TO IT.
WE ARE ACUTELY AWARE OF ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND OUR WATER RESOURCE TEAM AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAVE DONE CONSIDERABLE MAPPING OF WHERE THOSE AREAS ARE.
AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS, UM, FOR MANY OF US THAT HAVE SOME TENURE IN THE CITY, THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES HAVE CHANGED, UM, THE LANDSCAPE OF WHERE WE'VE SEEN LOCALIZED FLOODING.
AND SO I'M, I'M HAPPY AND RELIEVED THAT MANY OF THOSE AREAS THAT, UM, WE WERE SEEING SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF CONCERN HAVE ABOUT NOW BEEN MITIGATED, BUT WE STILL HAVE AREAS THAT, THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, OTHER AREAS OF, OF FOCUS.
UM, BUT WE'RE TRAINING THROUGH THOSE AREAS.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, WE'RE WORKING WELL AHEAD.
WE'RE CLEARING OUT CULVERTS AND CREEK WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, IN ADVANCE OF THOSE THINGS.
AND NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PREPARE FOR WHAT MOTHER NATURE MAY, UM, UM, PRESENT TO US, UM, IN ADDITION TO ALL THOSE OTHER ALL HAZARDS KIND OF CONCERNS.
SO, UM, I THINK THE MESSAGE THIS YEAR IS, UM, IT'S COMING, SO GET PREPARED NOW.
UM, THERE'S, UH, I BELIEVE THE TWO SANDBAG LOCATIONS ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE, AND THAT'S AT HOPPER STREET AND AT PRINCE PARK.
AND SO BRING YOUR SHOVEL AND BRING YOUR BAGS, RIGHT, AND THE SAND IS READILY AVAILABLE.
UM, AS WELL AS THE OTHER THING I WILL OFFER IS THE CITY'S BEEN PRETTY, UM, PRETTY WELL VERSED AT, AT SEEKING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WE'VE BROUGHT IN A NUMBER OF, OF ENTITIES AND DEMOED A NUMBER OF PRODUCTS THAT WOULD BE MORE SUITABLE AND COMMERCIAL KIND OF SETTINGS.
AND SO WE DID OVER THE SUMMER, UM, UM, HAVE A DEMONSTRATION FROM A PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR, YOU KNOW, FEET OF WATER AND LARGE SCALE FLOODING SITUATIONS IF WE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, STOP FLOODING AND, UH, A ROADWAY SETTING OR, UM, YOU KNOW, STOP IT FROM A, UM, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT STOPPING, YOU KNOW, FIVE, SIX FEET OF WATER OVER A SIGNIFICANT DURATION.
UM, AND SO THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO EXPLORE THAT AND, UH, SEEING WHAT THOSE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH, UM, MUTUAL AID OR THROUGH, UM, OFFER OFF, UM, THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES THROUGH OUR STATE PARTNERS AND CONTEXT.
SO SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES HERE AVAILABLE LOCALLY, BUT WE CAN REQUEST THOSE.
AND IF WE KNOW IN ADVANCE FOR SOME OF THESE SLOW PROGRESSING EMERGENCIES, WE CAN REQUEST THOSE TYPE OF RESOURCES, GET THEM, SET THEM UP, AND, UM, IF WE KNOW WHERE THOSE AREAS OF CONCERN MIGHT BE, WE CAN, WE CAN PREPARE FOR THEM AND HOPEFULLY, UM, UM, WEATHER OR RIDE OUT THAT WEATHER EVENT.
UM, IT'S SOME OF THESE UNANTICIPATED, UM, HAZARDS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO RESPOND TO.
UM, AND WE TRY TO JUST, AND, UM, HAVE A PLAN, NAVIGATE THE PLAN, PROCESS IT THROUGH THAT PLANNING P AND UH, HOPEFULLY PREPARE OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR COMMUNITY TO BE RESILIENT IN THE MOMENT AND GET THROUGH THOSE FIRST 24 HOURS OR 48 HOURS SO THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON AND PRIORITIZING THOSE IMMEDIATE, UM, LIFE SAFETY ISSUES.
AND THEN, UM, MOVE TO, UM, PULLING IN THOSE RESOURCES AND OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE SEEN THAT IN, IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, QUITE A, QUITE A FEW NUMBER OF TIMES.
IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I HAVE ONE LAST THING TO SHARE.
I'M PRETTY SURE I SAW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M PRETTY SURE I SAW SOMETHING ON, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PETALUMA PDS SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT HOW A, AT LEAST ONE HIGH SCHOOL HAS A INTRO TO PUBLIC SAFETY CLASS.
I THINK, UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MANY THINGS TO DO AND YOU CAN'T PARADE AROUND ALL OF OUR GREAT PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING INTERESTING TO, I ALWAYS THINK IF WE CAN, WE CAN TELL THE YOUTH ABOUT THINGS AND THEY GO HOME AND TELL THEIR PARENTS WHO ARE WORKING JOBS AND MAYBE DON'T KNOW IT.
IT COULD BE AN INTERESTING THING.
IF YOU COULD GIVE A PRESENTATION ON WHAT, WHAT KIDS SHOULD DO, SO THAT IF THEY'RE OUT NOT WITH THEIR PARENTS, OR EVEN IF THEY ARE, THEY CAN, THEY CAN PASS THAT
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ALONG.SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT IT IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
MAY I RESPOND? YEAH, I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT DIRECTION.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CHILDREN ARE TRUTH TELLERS, AREN'T THEY?
UM, THERE'S A PRODUCT CALLED THE COMPREHENSIVE SITE SAFETY PLAN, OR THE C-E-S-S-P, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT FOR SCHOOLS.
UH, IT'S A MANDATE, UM, AS BUSY AS I AM.
AND THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT.
UM, OUR SCHOOL STAFF ARE JUST OVERBURDENED WITH UNFUNDED MANDATES.
TOO MUCH TO DO, NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY.
UM, SO ONE OF THE RESOURCES THAT THE CITY HAS PROVIDED IS A VERY THOROUGH AND INTENSE APPROACH TOWARDS THAT COMPREHENSIVE SITE SAFETY PLAN.
NOT CHECKING THE BOX, BUT DOING CAMPUS WALKTHROUGHS, EDUCATION PROGRAMS SUCH AS YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, UM, THERE'S A SCHOOL, UM, DISASTER AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.
THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO GET, TO GET, UM, THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THE FAMILIES THROUGH THAT SOURCE.
WE'VE HAD SOME AD HOC INTERACTION WITH DIFFERENT SCHOOLS AND, AND CLASSROOMS ON DISASTER PREPAREDNESS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING MORE BROADLY A A APPLIED, UM, TO ALL OF THE DISTRICTS THAT OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY.
AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THAT I THINK IT WAS THROUGH THE COUNTY OR MAYBE THE STATE, THE GREAT SHAKEOUT THAT WAS JUST A WEEK OR SO AGO.
THE, THE THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
NOW THE GREAT SHAKEOUT IS, UM, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF NUANCE AROUND THAT HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TIMING OF THE GREAT SHAKEOUT IS USUALLY THE SAME DATE EVERY YEAR.
THE DATE AND THE TIME OF THE GREAT SHAKEOUT, OF COURSE, REFLECT BACK ON A VERY SIGNIFICANT SEISMIC EVENT THAT WE HAD IN THE AREA, THE ONE I REFERENCED EARLIER.
WHILE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HONOR THE LOSSES THAT COMMUNITIES FACED, UM, DURING THAT INCIDENT, AND IT ISN'T VERY, UM, SALIENT POINT TO HANG A PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM ON, IT DOES ALSO COINCIDE WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT RECENT EVENTS AND DISASTERS IN THE COUNTY.
UM, NOT LEAST OF WHICH, UM, A VERY LARGE FIRE.
ACCORDINGLY, THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MADE A DETERMINATION THAT IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO PUSH THE GREAT SHAKEOUT, UM, IN THE COUNTY, UM, IN THE SPRINGTIME OR WORKING WITH SCHOOLS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HONOR THAT INTEREST IN UTILIZING THAT WONDERFUL DRILL AT WHATEVER FITS BEST WITHIN THEIR SCHEDULE.
ANYONE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE GREAT SHAKEOUT PROGRAM? I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO UTILIZE A SEARCH ENGINE AND TYPE IN GREAT SHAKEOUT.
THE GREAT SHAKEOUT PROGRAM HAS A LOT OF VERY VALUABLE AND ALSO VERY USER-FRIENDLY INFORMATION.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE SHAKEOUT PROGRAM I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THE COVER IN SHAKEOUT.
YOU LEARN TO STOP, COVER, HOLD ON.
'CAUSE THE TABLE SHIMMIED AWAY FROM SOMEBODY.
IT WAS JUST STOP AND COVER WHILE HERE IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, DUE TO STRINGENT BUILDING CODES, WE'RE NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT BUILDING COLLAPSE AS WE ARE ABOUT FIXTURES THAT MIGHT COME DOWN AND PRESENT A LACERATION TO A VITAL AREA.
UM, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE, UM, HIGHLIGHTING THE SHAKEOUT AS A GREAT RESPONSE ACTIVITY FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY FEEL SHAKING.
IF YOU FEEL SHAKING, COVER YOUR HEAD AND NECK, AND IF POSSIBLE, GET UNDER THE TABLE.
IF YOU'RE AT THE BEACH AND YOU FEEL SHAKING, LEAVE THE BEACH, THAT COULD BE IN A NEAR, NEAR, UM, SHORE TSUNAMI.
BUT THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMITTEE? I'M GONNA TAKE THAT AS A NO.
SO I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN, TOM, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
IT WAS VERY, UM, DETAILED AND YOUR COMMENTS AND EXPLANATIONS AT THE END.
AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO CONTINUE TO STAY FOR THE REST OF THE MEETING AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU CAN HEAD OUT, BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU'RE VERY BUSY AND IT'S A LONG DAY.
AND WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
YEAH, WE'LL OPEN IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, OH, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
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YEAH, WE CAN HOSPITAL.I HAVE A CONCERN AND MY CONCERN IS IF THE, UH, PETALUMA HOSPITAL IS PREPARED IN THE CASE OF, UH, OF A MASSIVE, UH, DISASTER.
UH, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
UM, CONSIDERING IT IS THE ONE HOSPITAL IN THE CITY, HOSPITALS HAVE VERY STRINGENT REGULATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO ADHERE TO, UM, IN REGARDS TO BUILDING CODE, STAFFING LEVELS, AND EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES.
ONE OF THE GREAT LESSONS FROM THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC WAS QUALIFYING EXACTLY WHAT THOSE SUPPLIES AND RESOURCES MEANT.
A GOOD EXAMPLE IS A HOSPITAL BED.
HOW MANY HOSPITAL BEDS? A VERY IMPORTANT LESSON THAT WE LEARNED, UM, I THINK ACROSS THE BOARD, I KNOW CERTAINLY WHERE I WAS WORKING AT THE TIME, IS THAT A HOSPITAL BED IS DIFFERENT THAN A STAFFED HOSPITAL BED.
I THINK WITH THE HOSPITAL AND WITH OTHER CRITICAL FACILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY, A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE WILL BE WORKFORCE AND THE ABILITY FOR WORKFORCE TO ACCESS THE FACILITY AFTER A CATASTROPHIC DISASTER.
I'LL NEED TO DEFER TO PROVIDENCE, UM, FOR ANY SPECIFICITY.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE CITY WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH THE HOSPITAL IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPACE.
WE HAVE DIRECT CONTACT WITH THEM AND WE HAVE AN ABILITY FOR THEM TO INTERFACE WITH OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE OTHER THING, AND WE'RE, WE'RE NAVIGATING THIS DURING OUR CURRENT CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, CONSTRUCTING OUR NEW PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY.
AND SO FOR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE A HOSPITAL, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS LIKE ENSURING THAT THE, UM, UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT POWER THAT FACILITY ARE UNINTERRUPTED AT ALL TIMES.
SO THE HOSPITAL IS DESIGNED AND THE CITY'S ENGINEERED IN A MANNER SO THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE POWER.
SO PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING, YOU KNOW, SURGERIES OR THAT ARE ON SENSITIVE SYSTEMS ARE NOT IN JEOPARDY IF THERE'S A, A SIGNIFICANT, UH, EVENT.
SO IT'S DESIGNED IN THE CITIES, UM, ESTABLISHED IN THE NATURE.
AND SAME WITH OUR FACILITIES FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
SO, UM, SOMETIMES, UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING AT THE SAME TOKEN, UM, LIKE RECENT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE COST TO CONSTRUCT SOME OF THESE FACILITIES AND ENGINEER THEM, THEY'RE CONSIDERABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE DESIGNED TO 10 TIMES TO THE BUILDING STRUCTURES OF NORMAL FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WITHSTAND AN, UH, SIGNIFICANT, CATASTROPHIC EARTHQUAKE AND BE RESILIENT.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE BACKUP POWER SYSTEMS. THEY HAVE TO BE, UM, ENSURED THAT THEY CAN SUSTAIN ALL THESE OTHER EVENTS AND HAVE ALL THESE RESILIENT SYSTEMS SO THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF, THE HOSPITAL STAFF, ALL THESE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS CAN SUSTAIN OPERATIONS WITHOUT, WITHOUT, UH, SKIPPING A BEAT.
IN ADDITION TO, THEY DO HAVE AN OPERATIONS PLAN, WE REVIEW THAT FROM POLICE AND FIRE STANDPOINT AND WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WHAT THOSE PLANS ARE IN A PUBLIC AUDIENCE LIKE THIS, BUT THEY HAVE THOSE THINGS AND THEIR FACILITIES ENGINEERED TO, TO BE TO THOSE STANDARDS, MUCH LIKE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES AS WELL.
MAY I ASK ONE MORE? QUE MAY I RESPOND? ONCE AGAIN? UH, CHIEF MILLER'S ELOQUENCE REMINDED ME OF ONE OTHER ASPECT OF DISASTER RESPONSE THAT I SHOULD HIGHLIGHT.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOSPITALS, THERE'S A TERM IN THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WORLD, IT'S NOT VERY TECHNICAL, BIG SICK, LITTLE SICK
AND IF SOMEBODY IS IN A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEY HAVE A MINOR INJURY THAT CAN BE TREATED EVEN IN A FIRST AID MANNER, AND THAT MINOR INJURY DOESN'T ELEVATE TO THE POINT WHERE IT REQUIRES ADVANCED MEDICAL CARE, THAT HOSPITAL IS SO MUCH MORE THE BETTER OFF.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO CIRCLE BACK TO MY COMMENTS ON NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPERSONAL FAMILY PREPAREDNESS AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF FIRST AID BASICS, UM, SO THAT WE, WE CAN LIGHTEN THE LOAD ON THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES.
OH, WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION CHAIRMAN THAT WE CAN GO PAST SEVEN 30, MAYBE 15 MINUTES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, WE STARTED ABOUT NINE MINUTES LATE, SO, UM, DO WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT?
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THAT'S 7 39.SO MAYBE JUST REMIND US AT THAT TIME AND WE'LL CONTINUE ON AT THIS POINT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WE LEARNED THAT DURING THE, UM, 2017 FIRES WHEN THE FAIRGROUNDS WAS AN EVACUATION CENTER, BEVERLY WILSON HALL WAS TURNED INTO A MEDICAL, UM, FOR, FOR, WHAT DO YOU CALL, BIG AND LITTLE.
IT WAS FOR LITTLE, LITTLE ILLNESSES AND MEDICAL REASONS.
AND WE HAD COMMUNITY STAFFING IT, AND IT WAS, UM, WE WERE COORDINATING WITH THE HOSPITALS AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAD LEFT THEIR MEDICATION AT, AT HOME BECAUSE THEY WERE EVACUATED.
AND SO WE WERE COORDINATING THAT THROUGH OUR EVACUATION CENTER AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
I'M, I'M, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT WE DECIDED ON THAT.
WE VO WE VOTED AND APPROVED A GRANT PROPOSAL FOR A RESILIENCY CENTER AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
SO THAT WILL KEEP US STOCKED FOR THE NEXT TIME.
WE HAVE A NATURAL DISASTER THAT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED AND HAVE THINGS 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING WHEN THE EVACUATIONS HAPPENED.
WE DEPENDED ON THE, UM, KINDNESS OF THE COMMUNITY TO BRING THOSE THINGS TO US.
BUT NOW WE'LL HAVE THEM AT THE FAIRGROUNDS.
SO WE'LL BE READY AND, UM, ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN CASE OF EVACUATION.
AM I RIGHT? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER
THERE, THERE IS A, THERE IS A REALLY EXCITING AND SIGNIFICANT, UM, PROJECT AROUND BUILDING A RESIL EXACTLY AS YOU SAID, A RESILIENCE CENTER, UM, BASED OUTTA THE FAIRGROUNDS AND, AND TO, AND TO KIND OF CREATE A BIT OF A HUB FOR ONE PETALUMA WHOLE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE.
IT'S LIKE A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT THERE, THERE IS SOME GRANT FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND THEN SOME, UM, SOME GENERAL, UM, FUND STAFF COSTS AS WELL.
I'M A LITTLE SLEEP DEPRIVED, BUT THANK YOU
I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, BUT CAN WE START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM FOUR AND THEN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM THREE? YES.
SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR WILL BE, UM, CHANTELLE ROGERS.
AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS, IT'S THE SAME INSTRUCTIONS AS PREVIOUSLY.
WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM CHANTELLE ROGERS.
SO WE'RE DOING THE, UM, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ONE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, WHAT I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT YOU HAD, UM, SPOKEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF, UM, RESILIENCY NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND, UM, UH, I WAS THINKING THAT THAT IS, THAT THERE'S SOME REDUNDANCY WITH THAT WITH, UH, COOL BLOCK GROUPS.
I, UM, I WAS AN ORIGINAL COOL BLOCK LEADER PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO.
AND ALL OF THE STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE WENT THROUGH WITH OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS IN TERMS OF GO BAGS, UM, AND, UH, VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS.
WE EVEN HAD ONE WOMAN WHO VOLUNTEERED TO BE A, UM, A STORM DRAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSON WHO'S GONNA BE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEARED OUT THE WHOLE TIME.
AND, UM, AND I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM BLOCK.
UM, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY EASY TO CONNECT BECAUSE NOT ALL LEADERS ARE STILL INVOLVED ONGOING.
UM, AND IF SOMEBODY REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, HEY, CAN YOU UPDATE YOUR LISTS OF, OF, OF NEIGHBORS AND, AND PEOPLE WHO'VE MOVED IN AND VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THAT LEGWORK DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING TO RECREATE THE WHEEL, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'M GONNA SAY IS ABOUT SANDBAGS.
KAREN KNOWS I LOVE TO TALK ABOUT SANDBAGS.
UM, IT, IT STRIKES ME THESE, AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY BAGS AT THE, UM, SAG SANDBAG STATIONS.
BUT, UM, BUT FILLING SANDBAGS IS, IS IS VERY DIFFICULT.
AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S BRUTAL WORK.
A FILLED SANDBAG WEIGHS LIKE 40 POUNDS AND, UM, IT'S NOT A ONE MAN JOB GENERALLY SPEAKING.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE SEEN SOME CITIES HAVE, UM, SETUPS THAT ARE ALMOST LIKE A, UM, LIKE A WOODEN FIXTURE THAT HAS, UH, YOU KNOW, SAY FOUR OR FIVE THINGS WHERE YOU PUT THE BAG UNDERNEATH AND THIS, SO ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS, UH, IS IS FILL IT FROM THE TOP AND I'M SURE WE'D HAVE TO DRILL IT DOWN SO SOMEBODY DIDN'T STEAL IT.
BUT, UM, BUT IT, IT WOULD BE A
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WHOLE LOT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOUSEHOLDS WHERE THERE, THERE MAYBE ARE NOT TOO, UM, PHYSICALLY CAPABLE ADULTS AND THEY ARE OUT OF LUCK IN TERMS OF GETTING ANY SANDBAGS.UM, AND UM, SOMETHING THAT WE HAD ALSO BROUGHT UP WAS, WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THE, MAYBE UM, SCOUTS OR TEENAGERS FOR, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY SERVICE OR SOMETHING MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP OUT TO FILL SOME BAGS FOR SENIOR CITIZENS OR, OR FOR PEOPLE IN MOBILE HOME PARKS OR SOME OTHER MORE VULNERABLE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW THAT YOU GO DOWN THERE AND THERE'S LIKE THE, THE THING OF SAND AND, AND THE BOX AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY IS, IS GONNA BE CAPABLE TO, TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN.
SO IF WE COULD FIND SOME HELP FOR THEM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR? NO.
TOM, NOW I WOULD LIKE TO OFFICIALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT,
I APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR ATTENTION AND THAT OF THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW.
OKAY, NOW WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
SO I'D LIKE TO CALL UP NINA, PLEASE.
IT OCCURS TO ME TO ASK HOW VALUABLE, UH, WE ARE FINDING THE INTEGRA.
I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE, UH, INVOCATION OF THOSE SERVICES.
UH, I UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE SUPPORTED A, A PURSUIT ISSUE, BUT I'M, I'M NOT FINDING WITHIN THE DATA THAT ARE PRESENTED AND HOW THEY'RE PRESENTED, UM, A A REVIEW OF OR AN ENUNCIATION OF THE THINGS WE, WE FOUND PARTICULARLY TROUBLING, IN PARTICULAR THE RACIAL DISPARITY.
AND I, I, I'LL ALSO, UH, JUST COMMENT FOR THE RECORD, UM, THE, JUST THE PHYSICAL PRESENTATION OF THE INFORMATION, HEARING IT COME ACROSS IN, IN, UH, IN AN AUDIO FORMAT THAT, UH, IS INIMICAL TO, UH, UNDERSTANDING, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF MISSING OUT.
SO I'M, I'M JUST GONNA THROW THE QUESTION OUT AND MAYBE THAT THIS BELONGS MORE IN THE, UH, LONG-TERM PLANNING THING, BUT ARE, ARE WE GETTING OUR MONEY'S WORTH? I MEAN, IS WHAT, WHAT ARE THEY DOING THAT WE CAN'T DO INTERNALLY? I, I THINK COUNCIL COUNCIL SAYS WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT AUDI AUDITOR.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE THE CITY OF, UH, WHAT WAS IT, BOULDER POOR AS I MCCLAIN, WAS THAT HIS NAME? NO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THAT CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS EVENING.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE AND ASK THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND STAFF IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED REGARDING THE UPCOMING MEETING DATES AND OR POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN LONG RANGE.
CALENDAR CHAIR NELSON, IF I CAN INTERRUPT.
WE'RE APPROACHING THE 90 MINUTE MARK, SO IF YOU'LL BE MAKING A MOTION, ANYONE TO EXTEND, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND FOR FIVE MINUTES.
MOTION CARRIES TO EXTEND FOR FIVE MINUTES.
UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR, THERE WAS NO MODIFICATIONS OR ADJUSTMENTS MADE AFTER THE LAST PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, THE BIGGEST COMPONENT WITHIN THIS IS TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ARE, UH, NO PSAC MEETINGS DUE TO THIS.
SO THE NEXT PSAC MEETING WILL BE JANUARY 27TH, SO THE FIRST MONTH OF NEXT YEAR.
AND THE ITEM ON A AGENDA IS THE PARKING WORKSHOP.
UM, SO I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO ADD ONE THING TO THE JANUARY CALENDAR, A REQUEST FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE'VE NOW PASSED.
UH, C HAS DONE A FABULOUS NON-COOPERATION WITH ICE ORDINANCE, I MEAN, A RESOLUTION POLICY.
AND IT HAS A LOT OF, LOT OF STEPS ABOUT SIGNAGE, ABOUT, UH, UH, UH, TRAINING STAFF.
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DID A GREAT AMAZING JOB.WE WOULD, UH, THE REQUEST IS THAT ON OUR JANUARY WE WOULD GET AN UPDATE ON IMPLEMENTATION, WHERE WE'RE AT, AND ALSO A REPORT OF THERE IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY INTERACTIONS WITH ICE.
SO AS YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IS THE, UH, S SP FIVE 80 YES.
UH, RESOLUTION THAT WAS JUST, UH, RECENTLY PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL? YES.
AND I, I BELIEVE CHIEF MILLER WAS GONNA ADD SOME COMMENTS, BUT I, THAT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S VERY APPROPRIATE TO ADD TO THE JANUARY AGENDA AND I'LL LET CHIEF MILLER RESPOND.
YEAH, I THINK IF, UM, THAT PROJECT'S BEING LED BY, UM, OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, UM, GREEN HERE IS ALSO ASSISTING ON THAT.
SO I THINK IF, IF THE COMMITTEE'S COMFORTABLE WITH US CONNECTING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE, UM, AND THE, UM, COMMITTEE'S FINE WITH US POTENTIALLY BUMPING THE PARKING WORKSHOP OFF THAT CALENDARED EVENT, UM, WE WOULD BE, UM, HAPPY TO DO SO.
I THINK WE, WE MAY NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT IF YOU'RE HAPPY TO GIVE US THE LIBERTY TO, TO DO THAT WHILE WE'RE IN RECESS OVER THE HOLIDAYS, UM, AND JUST SCHEDULE IT AS, AS SUCH, IF THAT WORKS, UM, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO, TO TRY TO, UH, ACCOMPLISH THAT.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE, I CAN SAY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON IT CURRENTLY.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE NOT IN A PLACE TO DO IT AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, BY JANUARY WE THINK THERE'D BE CONSIDERABLE PROGRESS THAT THAT WOULD BE A TIMELY UPDATE.
I WAS JUST, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE, I'M HAPPY TO GIVE THE UPDATE IN JANUARY.
SO I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE OUR ANSWERS THOUGH.
WE CAN, SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN DO IT.
SO IF, IF THE COMMITTEE'S GOT CONSENSUS AND THAT'S, UH, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO, I'M, WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON THE CALENDAR.
SO TO CONFIRM, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO BUMP THE PARKING WORKSHOP TO THEN, UH, REVIEW SB FIVE 80.
IS THAT CORRECT? THE ONLY YOU DO BOTH.
CAN WE DO BOTH? I WAS JUST SAY THE SB FIVE 80 UPDATE WON'T BE THAT LONG 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN A COUNCIL, THIS WILL JUST BE LIKE, HEY, SINCE THIS WAS ENACTED, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE AND IF THERE'S STILL LEFT, ANYTHING LEFT TO DO, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO KEEP BOTH, TO DO BOTH.
IF WE CAN GET THE DATA BY THEN FOR SB FIVE 80, I'D LIKE TO KEEP BOTH ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK THE SB FIVE 80 WILL BE FINE.
I JUST DON'T WILL WE HAVE EVERYTHING READY FOR THE PARKING WORKSHOP? IT'D BE A BETTER QUESTION.
YEAH, I THINK WE'VE GOT DIRECTION.
IF WE CAN GET 'EM BOTH ON THERE, WE'LL DO IT.
IF, IF NOT, WE'LL LEAD WITH THE SB FIVE 80.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL STAFF
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OR COMMITTEE COMMENT? THE ONLY THING I, UH, I WOULD REPORT OUT FROM STAFF IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, UM, CONTINUE TO HAVE A NUMBER OF SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE GOING ON.I JUST WANNA REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S HALLOWEEN THIS COMING WEEKEND.
SO, UM, SLOW DOWN IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BE AWARE OF PEOPLE IN COSTUME AND, AND HOURS OF DARKNESS.
UM, BE CAREFUL, UM, AND THOUGHTFUL AND TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALWAYS ON FRONT OF MIND FOR US.
IT IS A SATURDAY, THIS, THIS COMING WEEKEND.
SO, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE NORM SO PEOPLE WILL BE OUT, UM, LATER THAN NORMAL.
WE ALSO, UM, HAVE BEEN ON THIS TOPIC OF EMERGENCY OPERATIONS.
UM, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF OUR SPECIAL EVENTS, SOME SIGNIFICANT BARRIERS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT, UM, MAYBE OUT OF PLACE FROM YEARS PAST, BUT WE HAVE BEEN USING, UM, BARRIERS NOW TO, UH, ASSIST US IN, UM, HARDENING OUR SPECIAL EVENTS TO, UH, ENSURE AND INCREASE THE SAFETY FROM PEOPLE POTENTIALLY DRIVING INTO THOSE EVENTS OR ACCIDENTALLY DRIVING INTO THOSE EVENTS.
SO WE, UM, HAD THEM OUT AT OUR D DE MUTOS, UM, FESTIVAL JUST THE OTHER NIGHT.
WE'VE USED THEM AT THE ART AND GARDEN FESTIVAL RECENTLY.
SO JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT SEEMED TIMELY.
AND, UM, OUR UPCOMING VETERANS DAY PARADE IS ON NOVEMBER 11TH, UM, IN JUST A FEW WEEKS.
UM, SO JUST A FEW REPORT OUTS THERE.
AND, UH, THEN LASTLY, OUR COMMUNITY ACADEMY IS GOING LIEUTENANT AVIANO.
HOW MANY APPLI OR PARTICIPANTS DO WE HAVE IN 18 COMMUNITY MEMBERS CURRENTLY PARTICIPATING IN THE CLASS? AND THEY HAVE TWO SESSIONS LEFT, THREE SESSIONS LEFT, SO THEY JUST COMPLETED SCENARIO TRAININGS UP AT THE, UH, THE ACADEMY THIS PAST WEEKEND AND THE FOUR SIMULATORS.
SO, UH, A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM RIDING HIGH, UH, ON THE END OF THAT.
SO GREAT PROGRAM WE'D ENCOURAGE ANYONE, UM, WHO HASN'T, OR ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN IT THE NEXT TIME IT COMES OPEN, WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE, UM, THE APPLICATION PERIOD.
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CHIEF, DO YOU ALSO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE, UM, RETIRED OUR PARKING, UM, OFFICER AND JUST HIRED A NEW, UM, PARKING OFFICER? I KNOW HE HAS A BETTER TITLE.YEAH, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF STAFF TRANSITIONS IN RETIREMENTS, UM, FROM SERVICE RETIREMENTS.
AND SO, UM, A FEW OF THOSE ARE, ARE, UM, NOTABLY ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE AND WE'VE HAD, UM, SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THOSE.
AND SO AS, AS, UM, ASTUTELY, UM, POINTED OUT, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME NEW EMPLOYEES OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AND SO, UM, VERY ENERGETIC AND, AND, UH, EN ENTHUSED IN GETTING OUT THERE.
AND SO, UM, I, WE ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELF AS THEY SEE SOME NEW FACES WITHIN OUR STAFF AS ALWAYS.
AND, UH, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE ALWAYS, UH, LOOKING FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS INTERESTED IN JOINING OUR DEPARTMENT.
SO IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE INTERESTED OR INTERESTED IN THE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, CALL US FOR A RIDE ALONG OR, UM, LOOK AT THE AVAILABLE OPPORTUNITIES LISTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE ANYTIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR UPDATES.
UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE ONE MORE MOMENT TO THANK, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER NOW FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU SERVE IN OTHER COMMITTEES IN OTHER CAPACITIES.
UM, AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7 44.
WE MIGHT NEED A BIGGER CLOCK,